Airbus eyes Bangladesh’s expanding aviation sector

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Airbus eyes Bangladesh’s expanding aviation sector​

A350 would be ideal for country’s long-haul needs, company says

Dhaka Tribune
Mamun Abdullah
March 20, 2022 1:25 PM

European aircraft manufacturing giant Airbus wants to maintain its presence in Bangladesh's aviation industry, which is predicted to triple in passenger and cargo traffic by 2040.

Representatives from the company made the remark while showcasing the new Airbus A350F freighter aircraft to reporters during an event at Hazrat Shahjalal International Airport in Dhaka on Sunday.

They said the new aircraft would be ideal for meeting the rising demand in the aviation industry of Bangladesh and boost Airbus’s relations with the country.

Rémi Maillard, President of Airbus India and Managing Director of South Asia region said: “Airbus is committed to contributing and developing Biman Bangladesh airlines to recapture the market from foreign carriers.”

To tackle the situation, airlines require a highly competitive modernized long-haul aircraft, which the Airbus family of products, including the A350, can provide, he said.

The Airbus A350 is a long-range, wide-body airliner. Airbus claims it is superior to the Boeing 777.

According to an Airbus study, Bangladesh's aviation markets grew at a 50% faster rate than most other countries in the last ten years, with a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 9% compared to the rest of the world's (6%).

Can Airbus reclaim the Bangladesh market?​

Airbus has been attempting to gain a foothold in Bangladesh's aviation sector since the 1990s. Biman purchased three AC Airbuses in 1991, but the company has not made another purchase from the company since it ordered 10 Boeings in 2006-2007.

According to an aviation specialist, Boeing clearly controls the widebody aviation industry in South Asia, based on the current structure of airline fleets of the country.

Biman Bangladesh Airlines, US-Bangla Airlines, and some Indian airlines, such as Air India, fly Boeing 787s and 777s, with no Airbus widebody aircraft.

Kazi Wahidul Alam, an aviation specialist and former Biman board member, believes that if Biman's present fleet of Boeings become obsolete after ten years, the company may be able to purchase Airbus products.

Aviation expert ATM Nazrul Islam said he was not sure that the Airbus A350 was suitable for short-haul flights of up to 8 hours. On the other hand, long-distance flights may be feasible.

The experts also said it would not be wise to purchase another different kind of aircraft, as staff members would have to learn how to maintain it.

Airbus eyes Bangladesh’s expanding aviation sector

A350 would be ideal for country’s long-haul needs, company says

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[Bilal9]

The Airbus A350 is a long-range, wide-body airliner. Airbus claims it is superior to the Boeing 777.

Au Contraire Mon Frère....

Although the figures on range and fuel economy may be similar, A350-1000 only compares favorably with B777-300ER, current model. When B777x is flown in a matter of a few years, the difference will be spectacular. Boeing Triple 7's are solid pieces of engineering, sturdy to a fault, while A350's are re-hashed A330's with a new cockpit section and wings, underneath the nouvelle frontal skin, still the flimsy A300-A310-A340 skeleton structure and all the same faults. And don't forget basic fiberglass and paint cracking flaws - I mean there is a reason Qatari aviation folks swore never to buy Airbus Garbage again....

Costly Airbus paint flaw goes wider than the Gulf

A dispute between Airbus and Qatar Airways over paint and surface flaws on A350 jets stretches beyond the Gulf, with at least five other airlines raising concerns since the high-tech model entered service, according to documents seen by Reuters and several people with direct knowledge of the matter.

www.reuters.com

Kazi Wahidul Alam, an aviation specialist and former Biman board member, believes that if Biman's present fleet of Boeings become obsolete after ten years, the company may be able to purchase Airbus products.

This idiot has been promised some tidy amount of bribes and shopping trips to Paris by Airbus folks....ba$tard.... any guy with an iota of professionalism (which is clearly absent in these bhat--bharta consuming idiots) would stay miles away from favoring one mfr. over another. Reduces your technical credibility immediately. You need a detailed analysis to compare vendors, not off the cuff seat-of-the-pants comments about suitability. Burbak Gadha.

If these are the idiots sitting on Biman's board, then Allah help us....

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

boeing will dominate if they manage to lobby congress to
restart the Dhaka to NYC direct route again

sacre b*** !
this is shoddy craftsmanship the workers must have been on strike that day !

while A350's are re-hashed A330's with a new cockpit section and wings, underneath the nouvelle frontal skin, still the flimsy A300-A310-A340 skeleton structure and all the same faults.

isn't airbus partly owned by France and Germany ?

they probably let the French do the electrical wiring and engineering while the Germans did the exterior design. should have been the other way around no ?

 

[Bilal9]

boeing will dominate if they manage to lobby congress to
restart the Dhaka to NYC direct route again




sacre b*** !
this is shoddy craftsmanship the workers must have been on strike that day !

Yeah the Qatari/Gulf heated weather is partly to blame, but I hear you about the shoddy workmanship and design aspect as well. I remember that the chairman of S'pore Airlines had huge misgivings about sourcing aircraft from Airbus....when they first designed the A350 he told them to go back to the drawing board and redesign the cockpit area. In the first re-design they had kept the original A300/A310/A340 nose.

They are still having issues with other Gulf carriers too, Qatari weather is not that different from that in UAE and KUWAIT....

Emirates threatens Airbus over A350 quality issues

Emirates (EK, Dubai International) has demanded that Airbus address the A350 fuselage paint degradation issue before any aircraft are delivered to the airline, Chairman Tim Clark told AirlineRating.com. "Our engineers looked at these A350s and said they are not in a good shape. So we say to...

www.ch-aviation.com

And even American ones,

Airline CEO explains why Airbus lost a major order to Boeing (BA, HA)

Hawaiian Airlines announced an order for 10 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners while canceling an existing order for six Airbus A330-800neos. The Dreamliner was selected after an intense sales competition between Airbus and Boeing. In an interview with Business Insider, Hawaiian Airlines CEO Peter...

sg.news.yahoo.com

boeing will dominate if they manage to lobby congress to
restart the Dhaka to NYC direct route again




sacre b*** !
this is shoddy craftsmanship the workers must have been on strike that day !

isn't airbus partly owned by France and Germany ?

they probably let the French do the electrical wiring and engineering while the Germans did the exterior design. should have been the other way around no ?

Yup it is a consortium between France, England, Germany and Spain I believe. Maybe Italy too. Heavily subsidized by these govts.

But final assembly from components produced in these countries is done in Toulouse and testing/final delivery is from some city (Hamburg?) in Germany...

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Yeah partly the Qatari/Gulf weather is partly to blame, but I hear you about the shoddy workmanship and design aspect as well. I remember that the chairman of S'pore Airlines had huge misgivings about sourcing aircraft from Airbus....when they first designed the A350 he told them to go back to the drawing board and redesign the cockpit area.

They are still having issues with Gulf carriers

Emirates threatens Airbus over A350 quality issues

Emirates (EK, Dubai International) has demanded that Airbus address the A350 fuselage paint degradation issue before any aircraft are delivered to the airline, Chairman Tim Clark told AirlineRating.com. "Our engineers looked at these A350s and said they are not in a good shape. So we say to...

www.ch-aviation.com

And even American ones,

Airline CEO explains why Airbus lost a major order to Boeing (BA, HA)

Hawaiian Airlines announced an order for 10 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners while canceling an existing order for six Airbus A330-800neos. The Dreamliner was selected after an intense sales competition between Airbus and Boeing. In an interview with Business Insider, Hawaiian Airlines CEO Peter...

sg.news.yahoo.com

to be fair Boeing had major problems with their dreamliner jets that led some high profile crashes and deaths

Boeing has the power to influence the US government and military to make decisions in their favour. Extremely corrupt practices even by defence company standards.

 

[Bilal9]

to be fair Boeing had major problems with their dreamliner jets that led some high profile crashes and deaths

Boeing has the power to influence the US government and military to make decisions in their favour. Extremely corrupt practices even by defence company standards.

All large US companies take liberties in bending the rules, if it involves large stakes. And both situations are true most of the time.

For that matter - large foreign companies do it too. Ethics for large companies are an oxymoron.

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner has been involved in seven accidents and incidents as of December 2021, with no fatalities and zero hull losses.[361][362]

There were new type battery overheating issues - yes.

There hasn't been major crashes with the 787. maybe you are referring to the 737 MAX.

 

[bluesky]

Au Contraire Mon Frère....

Although the figures on range and fuel economy may be similar, A350-1000 only compares favorably with B777-300ER, current model. When B777x is flown in a matter of a few years, the difference will be spectacular. Boeing Triple 7's are solid pieces of engineering, sturdy to a fault, while A350's are re-hashed A330's with a new cockpit section and wings, underneath the nouvelle frontal skin, still the flimsy A300-A310-A340 skeleton structure and all the same faults. And don't forget basic fiberglass and paint cracking flaws - I mean there is a reason Qatari aviation folks swore never to buy Airbus Garbage again....

Costly Airbus paint flaw goes wider than the Gulf

A dispute between Airbus and Qatar Airways over paint and surface flaws on A350 jets stretches beyond the Gulf, with at least five other airlines raising concerns since the high-tech model entered service, according to documents seen by Reuters and several people with direct knowledge of the matter.

www.reuters.com

This idiot has been promised some tidy amount of bribes and shopping trips to Paris by Airbus folks....ba$tard.... any guy with an iota of professionalism (which is clearly absent in these bhat--bharta consuming idiots) would stay miles away from favoring one mfr. over another. Reduces your technical credibility immediately. You need a detailed analysis to compare vendors, not off the cuff seat-of-the-pants comments about suitability. Burbak Gadha.

If these are the idiots sitting on Biman's board, then Allah help us....

But, the news report says this Kazi Wahidul Alam is an aviation specialist and former Biman board member. I don't know how he can be an aviation expert, but taking two pices from this purchase and that purchase is his birthright.

How can you deny him what is his due.

 

[BlindEagle]

while A350's are re-hashed

But a350 is composite construction no?or is it just the wings and cockpit assembly? I thought the paint issue was mostly due to it being sprayed on the composite body while the paint composition is for metal aircrafts.

 

[Bilal9]

But a350 is composite construction no?or is it just the wings and cockpit assembly? I thought the paint issue was mostly due to it being sprayed on the composite body while the paint composition is for metal aircrafts.

You are correct, it is mostly composites (carbon based meaning CFRP), however they are still using the same cross section for the fuselage, changing of which would require expensive wind tunnel re-design. Only things new are wings, tail components and the front cockpit area (Nose).

Wings and fuselage are almost completely composite, but that is the source of the problem, heat disintegration in the gulf weather (110 deg. plus Fahrenheit most of summer). Wing stringers and most structural wing components are also composite. Big issue in the heat.

See the metal net (mesh) backing in the pictures above, the fibreglass and paint were applied to the mesh and baked in an autoclave, but the heat caused the fiberglass + paint completely de-laminate from the mesh.

This is a huge problem. Most gulf airlines (in Qatar, Kuwait, UAE) will not order from Airbus unless they fix the problem. We should not either.

 

[Imran Khan]

biman own 16
nova air own 3
us bangla own 3
regent air own 1

a country owns 23 (4 wide body - 13 narrow body - 6 regional ) passenger aircraft to serve 160mn people . its really a huge market man

 

[BlindEagle]

You are correct, it is mostly composites (carbon based meaning CFRP), however they are still using the same cross section for the fuselage, changing of which would require expensive wind tunnel re-design. Only things new are wings, tail components and the front cockpit area (Nose).

Wings and fuselage are almost completely composite, but that is the source of the problem, heat disintegration in the gulf weather (110 deg. plus Fahrenheit most of summer). Wing stringers and most structural wing components are also composite. Big issue in the heat.

See the metal net (mesh) backing in the pictures above, the fibreglass and paint were applied to the mesh and baked in an autoclave, but the heat caused the fiberglass + paint completely de-laminate from the mesh.

This is a huge problem. Most gulf airlines (in Qatar, Kuwait, UAE) will not order from Airbus unless they fix the problem. We should not either.

Maybe for the long range fleet we can stick to Boeing but airbus regional fleets seem more fuel efficient. Our focus should be on fuel efficiency to maximize profits.

biman own 16
nova air own 3
us bangla own 3
regent air own 1

a country owns 23 (4 wide body - 13 narrow body - 6 regional ) passenger aircraft to serve 160mn people . its really a huge market man

Planes cost a lot bruh and our crooks eat up most of it

 

[Bilal9]

Maybe for the long range fleet we can stick to Boeing but airbus regional fleets seem more fuel efficient. Our focus should be on fuel efficiency to maximize profits.


Planes cost a lot bruh and our crooks eat up most of it

If only the Biman crooks ran the airline properly, they have such a HUGE captive market. Tens of Millions of well-paying passengers locally.

The Gulf airlines bribe these CAAB idiots and CAAB suwars give them (Emirates, GulfAir, Kuwaiti, Qatar and dozens of other airlines) all the landing slots. I'd say 90% of the foreign airlines serving Dhaka carry almost 100% Bangladeshi passengers which is not the case with any other country. Damn shame....

This is why we have such a small domestic airline fleet. Now look at countries like Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia and their civil aviation sectors.

Chamar Haramzada haramkhor CAAB/Biman idiots. 100% of my ire is directed at these unqualified incompetent CAAB and Biman employees siphoning foreign exchange and money from the country by the tens of Billions every year instead of growing their own airline and airline sectors.

No one cares in the govt. because the Civil Aviation ministry itself is corrupted to the core.

These people should be all lined up and shot.

 

[bluesky]

The Gulf airlines bribe these CAAB idiots and CAAB suwars give them (Emirates, GulfAir, Kuwaiti, Qatar and dozens of other airlines) all the landing slots. I'd say 90% of the foreign airlines serving Dhaka carry almost 100% Bangladeshi passengers which is not the case with any other country. Damn shame....

As far as I understand, giving a certain number of landing slots to a foreign country's planes is reciprocal. There was/ is a time when BIMAN had little capacity to serve passengers to the M-E. BIMAN was/ is a corruption factory then and now.

So, in such a situation some ME airlines got many slots in BD. Now, if that nation's airlines company has now 5 slots a week and a BD airline has only 2 slot a week, it is possible to get 3 more slots in the future when BIMAN has more planes.

By the way, it should be understood that BIMAN must not serve an airport if only 1 slot has been allowed. It is something like a shopkeeper opening his door only once a week. No business without at least 2 flights a week.

A group of crew members staying in the hotel for a week when there is only one flight is expensive. Two flights will double the revenue.

 

[BlindEagle]

If only the Biman crooks ran the airline properly, they have such a HUGE captive market. Tens of Millions of well-paying passengers locally.

The Gulf airlines bribe these CAAB idiots and CAAB suwars give them (Emirates, GulfAir, Kuwaiti, Qatar and dozens of other airlines) all the landing slots. I'd say 90% of the foreign airlines serving Dhaka carry almost 100% Bangladeshi passengers which is not the case with any other country. Damn shame....

This is why we have such a small domestic airline fleet. Now look at countries like Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia and their civil aviation sectors.

Chamar Haramzada haramkhor CAAB/Biman idiots. 100% of my ire is directed at these unqualified incompetent CAAB and Biman employees siphoning foreign exchange and money from the country by the tens of Billions every year instead of growing their own airline and airline sectors.

No one cares in the govt. because the Civil Aviation ministry itself is corrupted to the core.

These people should be all lined up and shot.

CAAB haramis are appointed from BAF, that should explain why BAF is trash too

 

[Bilal9]

CAAB haramis are appointed from BAF, that should explain why BAF is trash too

Just look out the window when you land in Dhaka, all their handiwork (rather, lack of it).

I mean what level of basic competence does it take, to level the ground and keep the grass trimmed down to six inches next to the runways and taxiways? These are basic ICAO requirements. Hasn't been done in fifty years.

Meanwhile all too eager to allot slots to Gulf Airlines.

Incompetent moron semi-educated freaks....