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After Egypt, Al Saud sees Pakistan a leading Salafist Caliphate

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While Pakistani nation remains hung in illusion and lives in a state of anarchy and the atmosphere of fear and Terror; our brotherly House of Al Saud; the big brother is busy opening its coffer in order to side line US in Greater Middle East, where huge sums of monies is being dished out in Egypt, Syria and Lebanon to establish Salafist Caliphate. It is also disbursed at large scale in Pakistan where score of religious parties and groups are benefitted to run Islamic Madrassas. In training camps of Madrassas militants are imparted special training for violent Salafist Jihad that they strongly believe that only coercion and use of force may help relieve the people of Pakistan to bring them in Salafist fold to embrace …the true Islam.

At the same time Pakistanis are also lead to believe to see themselves a victim of onslaught of US ‘War on Terror’ for our indulgence in Afghan war. While the state remains engulfed in the fog of ‘War on Terror’, the shadow Salafist Forces like Lashkr e Jhangvi and TTP remain engaged in brutal killing through bomb blasts and target killings to coerce n subjugate the people and erode government writ, leaving no option for the powerless governing bodies, except to submit and to renounce or abdicate.

In Egypt; there are much more brutal and malicious actions being carried out where Al Saud is seen successful in diverting the winds of ‘Arab spring’ in their favour. Supposedly US game in Egypt is being taken over by Saudi King who is looking forward to install a Salafi Nour party in power. After deposing President Marsi, the expected dissolution of Brotherhood on the charges for instigating killing, as claimed by interim government, that government was forced to make moves in killing of thousands of Egyptians in order to restore order in the country. Interim government is bent upon declaring Brotherhood a Terrorists organisation, following which Egyptian Salafist Nour Party which secured one fourth of votes in last elections, is the party that Saudi King has opened his Purse for.

Qatar has gone quite on helping Brotherhood whereas Saudi king has raised their aid money to facilitate the Egyptian Interim Military government from $5.6 billion to the tune of 12 Billion.

AS Salafist Nour party is likely to drum up majority after Brotherhood are placed defunct; first 'Egyptian Salafist Caliphate' is in making.

On the other hand US likes to sees its interests served by maintaining the peace between Egypt and Israel, keeping Egypt as an ally against so called Islamic terrorism, and protecting Christians. US may not afford to sever ties to the army that runs the country. In these goals, Egypt's military, no matter the brutality with which it behaved on Wednesday or on the following days against the Brotherhood, is an ally.

In recent weeks, the leadership of the E.U. and members of Obama’s Cabinet were in regular contact with General Sisi, imploring him not to use violence. He took a casual attitude toward these admonishments. Already, in July, the security forces had killed more than a hundred demonstrators, and the sole U.S. sanction had been to delay the delivery of four F-16 fighter jets. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates were, meanwhile, propping up General Sisi with many billions more than the Americans have ever offered. And, when last week’s slaughter came, John Kerry swallowed the bile of outrage and insisted that the United States could still make inroads with the Egyptians if given a chance. President Obama in his statement although did cancel a joint military exercise with the Egyptians in Sinai desert but again avoided using the word “coup” to describe the coup. He called it “the military’s intervention.” America lends some 1.3 billion dollars as package of armed military assistance to Egypt annually.

Earlier the moment Egypt's army was faced on Wednesday, with thousands of backers of the Muslim Brotherhood encamped in Cairo, challenging its rule. The slaughter that ensued, 600 dead on the first day and thousands wounded, means there was no going back. The die was cast. ‘The Egyptian army had crossed the Rubicon’ says Pat Buchannan.

Two years ago, the United States celebrated an Arab Spring that began with the overthrow in Tunis and Cairo of dictators who had been US loyal allies. US then became the champions of free elections in Egypt, as US had been the champions of free elections in Palestine, until Hamas swept the board in Gaza. That has been the US character.

Previously the World thought that Egypt was just divided between secularists and fundamentalists, whose visions are irreconcilable but now with deposing of president Morsi on the dictates of Al Saud; the scenario is entirely changed where even US is finding itself side tracked.

In Egypt, US has never been in need of any covert operation as US administration has always been dealing direct, on one to one bases with Military but in Pakistan the scenario is different. American CIA and Saudi ‘Al Mukhbaraat Al Amma’ , both are the most active agencies in this regard. In the wake of Afghan war on Terror and presence of Fugitive, Taliban and Al Qaeda in the sanctuaries found along the western borders; a thick fog of war along the border remains suspended where Al Mukhbaraat find free hand to remain busy for their covert operations against people and government of Pakistan.

Supposedly in Pakistan, in general, CIA works on two fronts:

<>War Front: To chase Afghan war Fugitive of Afghani Taliban and Al Qaeda fighting against US lead allied forces in Afghanistan and to go after their sanctuaries found in side Pakistan used by them for alighting. CIA also uses Drones to attack these fugitives for which it hires local peoples with in Pakistan to set up and operate a network of human intelligence.

<> Home Front is a wide spread front and believably CIA has established well netted network with in Pakistan. CIA believably works on following lines (1) To carry out covert operations with an aim to deplete Pakistan (2) to cast aspersion as Pakistan is the epicentre of terrorism (3) to create an atmosphere of fear where Pakistan Nuclear assets are seen as vulnerable to any Terrorists attack. (4)To spread despondency and make believe the people, the eminence of dis-integration of country for which with the help of Indian RAW, separatist forces like Baluchistan Liberation Army are hailed and funded(5) to hinder or stop all possible economic and resources development agreements with our neighbour by which country may attains economic development, i.e. with China and Iran.

Saudi Arabia finds Pakistan a most suitable country to generate a viable force as Pan Islamism Front force and help create a Mega Salafist Islamic block extending from Pakistan to Turkey, Middle East and North Africa in the West. How fascinating it may look on the face of it but ironically Salafist believe in violent jihad

Pakistan is selected as breeding ground for the groups rooted in a network of seminaries "madrassa” proven to be the most trust worthy setups. These institutions are closely associated with Saudi Arabia's financial and religious projects for the Muslim world as a whole and are paid generously.

Al Saud targets Pakistan to be transformed as Fortress of Islam after deposing the present system of government through violent Jihad by local proven brutal forces Like lashkr e Teyyaba , Lashkar e Jhangvi and TTP; ready to pounce and cease and replace the present form of government and ruling elites with Fundamentalists Salafist order of the caliphate.

This is the tale of appalling reality of Saudi-sponsored mayhem and bloodshed, and more, especially because that bloodshed flows of Muslims at the behest of the so-called Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques; Mekka and Madina.

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Taking it granted that next year American withdrawal from Afghanistan is but for certain and US will move out much bruised, having no victory at hand and that Al Saud would be able to side line the defeated super power in Middle East and then will be able to establish a Pan Islamic domain of their own through coercion and violence and terror. I think Al Saud is sadly mistaken.

I do see it a repeat of Suez War of 1956 scenario; when after WW II Jamal Abdul Nasser had nationalised the Suez Canal for which US President Eisenhower were to return.

Egypt was totally destroyed and defeated and subjugated and there after to remain at the mercy of ....US.

And we see that from 1956 till date. Egypt may never think of nationalising it and Suez Canal remain open like high way. Al Saud is asking for same reaction&#8230;. Of bloody turmoil!
 

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Only way this can happen is via an islamist coup within Pakistan Army.other than that i believe the Saudi's would be wasting their money
 

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BNP leader Mir Hasil Bazinjo already address about this movement when DIG Baluchistan killed by LEJ, I think it was Express tv and Arynews .
 

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Nice theory ..... but doesnot make sense if US of A (Where A doesnot stand for America) attacks Afghanistan ... for what? ..... they had a perfect platform with TTA & TTP well equipped and in power in Afghanistan .....

I think there i more to it than this ...... It is all about finishing of Islamic forces in all the world and setting up their own new Islam ... where religion adjusts to their needs and requirements rather than Caliphate etc etc etc
 

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If there is a God, Saudi Arabia will fall off the planet
Egypt&#8217;s coup and the Saudi opposition
Posted By Madawi Al-Rasheed Monday, August 19, 2013 &#8211; 2:53 PM

It is ironic that a state claiming to rule according to Islamic principles, Saudi Arabia, fears the rise to power of Islamists &#8212; both at home and in neighboring countries. One regional Islamist trend worries the Saudi leadership, the Muslim Brotherhood which has decided to engage in politics through elections and the democratic process.

Saudi legitimacy is based on an appropriation of Islamic symbols such as claims that &#8220;our constitution is the Quran&#8221; and the application of sharia. The Saudi leadership fears losing its unique Islamic credentials as Islamists in other countries reach power. It wants to remain the sole Islamic model in the Arab region. The possibility of neighboring states combining Islamist politics with democracy threatens the Saudi model and seriously alarms the Saudi state.

The Saudi government made it clear that it does not accept the rule of Islamists in Egypt or elsewhere, for that matter. Riyadh had in the past coexisted and even cooperated and manipulated the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood but since September 11, 2001 it turned against them when deceased Minister of Interior Prince Nayef held the Muslim Brotherhood responsible for terrorism in Saudi Arabia.

Hours after General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi deposed Mohamed Morsi on July 3, King Abdullah congratulated the Egyptian interim government and promised $5 billion in aid and subsidies, thus indicating his support for the change that led to removing the Muslim Brotherhood from power.

In a recent speech, King Abdullah clearly stated that he continues to back the Egyptian government in eradicating the dissent, chaos, and terrorism of those who threaten the security of Egypt, meaning the Muslim Brotherhood. Many Saudis were shocked especially after it transpired that hundreds of Egyptians were massacred in various squares in Cairo where Muslim Brotherhood supporters had been staging demonstrations and prolonged sit-ins.

While the demise of the Muslim Brotherhood had been a clear stated policy of the Saudi regime, the king&#8217;s speech was mainly directed toward an internal audience, especially Saudi Islamists of all shades. This includes an amalgamation of Brotherhood sympathizers and others. Saudi Islamists encompass a Salafized version of the Brotherhood, not to mention militant Jihadis and those Jihadis who postpone Jihad until the right conditions are ready for launching it.

All share one agenda although they may differ over the strategy that allows them to achieve it, namely the establishment of an Islamic state in which an umma guided by the holy book rules itself, by implication a rejection of hereditary monarchical rule. While not all Saudi Islamists openly reject the monarchy, their goal implicitly undermines the Saudi state in its present configuration. A recent development among some Islamists clearly represents a shift from theorizing the duties of Muslims to calling for their rights, represented by calls for national political representation, independent judiciary, respect for human rights, and freedom of speech. This shift was invigorated by the 2011 Arab uprisings and subsequent elections in countries like Egypt and Tunisia that brought Islamists to power.

Saudi Islamists went through a euphoric mode praising democratic transformation and hoping that the winds of change will cross the Red Sea. Yet they were not ready to call for an uprising for fear of losing everything. The Egyptian coup and the recent massacres in Egypt demonstrated beyond doubt the might of security approaches to peaceful protest.

A divided Saudi public, sectarian differences, regional rivalries, and tribal fragmentation all mitigated against the emergence of a unified Saudi Islamist protest movement. The government absorbed some of the Islamists&#8217; euphoria when it moved its troops to Bahrain to suppress the peaceful protest movement in 2011. Moreover, Saudi full support for the Syrian uprising succeeded in deflating anger among Islamists as long as this uprising remained anchored in a sectarian discourse that depicts it as a struggle of pious Sunnis against heretical Alawis and Shiites.

Close to home, the Qatif demonstrations were God-sent, as they silenced open calls for change or democratization among the majority of Saudi Islamists. The regime deflated its own Islamists&#8217; agitations when it engaged with Shiite protesters in the oil rich Eastern province, killing more than 16 activists in the last two years. Many Islamists blamed the Shiites for the increased repression in the country, which they themselves have suffered.

The king&#8217;s message was clear: zero tolerance for all those who use Islam to pursue political agendas, sort of an oxymoron in the Saudi context as the state itself had been manipulating, co-opting, and promoting Islam for agendas that are nothing but political. The foundation of the state itself is a process of instrumentalizing Islam to revive the Al-Saud control of vast territories, under the pretext of purifying Arabia from blasphemy, innovation, and atheism. The Muslim Brotherhood and its likes appear to be latecomers to the project of politicizing Islam.

King Abdullah&#8217;s message, supposedly meant for Egyptians, did not go unheeded among the many Saudi Islamists who abhorred their government&#8217;s support for the Egyptian coup. Since July 3, they have turned into defenders of Morsi and the Brotherhood, issuing statements on social media condemning their own government for backing the coup. A small group of activists launched an online petition to gather signatures against the aid that had been promised to Egypt immediately after the coup. Following the circulation of the petition, a couple of veteran activists such as Mohsin al-Awaji were briefly detained while many other Islamists remain banned from travel, most famous is Sheikh Salman al-Awdah whose television program &#8220;you have Rights&#8221; was abruptly stopped on an Islamist independent television channel. The government is carefully watching the hyperactivity of Islamists and their statements on television and online, which have so far strongly condemned the Egyptian coup and their own government&#8217;s unequivocal endorsement of General Sisi.

On Twitter, activists launched a hashtag clearly denouncing the king under the slogan &#8220;the king does not represent me.&#8221; So far the government has not reacted to such provocation. In fact, it may prefer to keep tweets going until they materialize in action on the ground. It may also want to monitor tweets and catch transgressors. A counter hashtag under the slogan &#8220;the king represents me&#8221; was immediately launched and the Saudi press reported that it was a great success, reflecting citizens&#8217; loyalty to their king and agreement with his policies. The virtual war remains heated in a country where freedom of speech is still lagging behind and the king is sacrosanct. Official media falls short of even debating Saudi support of the Egyptian coup and since June it has demonized the Muslim Brotherhood in banal and unjustified articles and commentaries.

The Saudi regime is gradually pursuing a media blackout on Islamists but if their activism moves from the virtual world to reality, it is likely that a mere royal speech will not be sufficient. More brutal measures will no doubt be applied. Egypt and its coup are regular reminders to Saudi audiences that might is always right. The Saudi Ministry of Interior has mastered the art of silencing peaceful activists who call for respect of human rights and has shown its might when dispersing the small demonstrations that sprung up in various regions of the country. It stays firm when facing collective action of any kind, from sit-ins and strikes to demonstrations.

The impotence of the West and the international community that often celebrates democratic transitions vis a vis the massacres in Egypt over the last weeks will only convince Saudi Islamists that they will have to remain speechless at the moment. It is obvious that no one will come to rescue them should they engage in political change and incur the wrath of their government.

The Egyptian coup sent several messages to Saudi Islamists and their counterparts in other parts of the Gulf region, the most important one is never to trust the ballot box. This will have serious consequences in the future and may well revive the old strategies of violence as the only mechanism to pursue goals.

Saudi contribution to the demise of the Muslim Brotherhood will always be remembered by the country&#8217;s activists as a betrayal of Islam, a view that has already been voiced by many Islamists whose government prefers they remain speechless.

Madawi Al-Rasheed is visiting professor at The Middle East Centre at London School of Economics and Political Science and Research Fellow at Open Society Foundation.
 

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Only way this can happen is via an islamist coup within Pakistan Army.other than that i believe the Saudi's would be wasting their money
Your military establishment is conservative :lol: there is no point for making such conspiracies.

But I must attest that both of us will be better off when Nawaz the thief is hanged :lol:
 

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Pakistanis are mostly Hanafi
for their plan in Pak , Salafis have to be imported from out side which is 2 much costly coz of heavy duty taxes :undecided:
 

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saudi arabia is where is Islam began, but they are the most anti islamic nation on the planet, how ironic, muslims are sleeping

anyways, I think pakistan is already a slave of saudis, nothing new really, I hope our nation open it's eyes
 

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Only way this can happen is via an islamist coup within Pakistan Army.other than that i believe the Saudi's would be wasting their money
that will NEVER happen, let me assure you brother....

and yes, they would be (and probably already are) wasting their money because Pakistan culturally is not a Salafist state

the best way for Muslims to work together is by investing in eachothers resources and collaborating in different fields -- and not resorting to sectarianisms where one Islamic country and the other are competing for influence.
 

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This is impossible,to many differences between the people of Pakistan.
They are hardly keeping the country together and you talk about a Caliphate.
 

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Lashker e Jhangvi (LJ) may be the tool of terror and violence in the hands of Al Saud in Pakistan to coerce the people and drive them in Saudi Salafist fold of orthodoxy but fact remains &#8230;that mere coffer of Al Saud filled to its brim may not sustain the out come.

This world belongs to people who are well educated, bear innovative minds and may be able to lay hand on the economic resources.

Out of all three above factors&#8230;none is in Saudis hands&#8230;not even economic resources.
 

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A friend of mine sent me a message &#8230;that we may beat Egypt in adopting salafia and I replied&#8230;

In Egypt although people are not ready to digest salafist so easily but after Brotherhood deposition; takeover by salafi NouR party is all set and ready&#8230;so Egyptian may be seen in lead in adopting Salafism.

Whereas in Pakistan although government is not that ready but&#8230;.Salafis are present in all walks of life&#8230;.u never know&#8230;we may beat Egypt.

Anyhow if at all we have to go ahead to adopt salfia&#8230;. then lets cut short and take the Middle party..Lashkr e Jhangvi LJ etc out&#8230;. and do the direct deal with Al Saud&#8230;&#8230;that way we may avoid unnecessary bloodshed and destruction too.....but they say; Salafist mean Violent jihad.........Killing, destruction and anarchy.
 

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