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Afghanistan: Why Turkey wants to partner with Hungary to protect Kabul airport

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man our population is 200 million plus and still increasing . If 1000 of them go to blacks does not affect us at all. The number of indian men implanting their seed in Pakistani women is way higher than africans check the stats with your nearest Pakistan embassy but again does not affect us at all instead it helps us filter out the un-patriotic women. In today's world you cant dictate who can marry who. people have choices and choices have consequences -its their life.
The fall of the west is due to their laws that prevent marriage and have destroyed the very fabric of social structure. Their family system is dead ibecause the law does not recognize men at all, one divorce can ruin a man's life and too much lgtbq etc etc extra freedom to women. More and more men in the west are chosing to be trans. m to f
Partially correct but South Asian growth rates are now going towards stagnant mode in not so distant future at end of century it will be Sub Saharan Africa pushing the world's population growth forget Europe and it wont be Asia at all
 

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Ankara believes Hungarian military is an asset because it knows the airport well, while Orban seeks more influence within Nato

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Hungarian PM Viktor Orban and Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan pose for cameras before a bilateral meeting on the sidelines of a Nato summit in Brussels on 13 June
By Ragip Soylu, Levent Kemal in Ankara
Published date: 21 June 2021 12:14 UT

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan last week publicly floated the idea that Ankara could partner with Hungary and Pakistan to secure Kabul International Airport after Nato’s withdrawal from Afghanistan.
The airport is key to the stability of the Afghan capital, as foreign missions, NGOs and aid groups rely on its services.
For many, Pakistan sounded like a reasonable partner. Islamabad has a longstanding relationship with the Taliban, as a neighbouring country. But Hungary came as a big surprise.


Two sources familiar with the issue said Hungary itself expressed a willingness to take part in the mission, floating the idea in a meeting between Erdogan and Hungarian Prime Miniser Viktor Orban on the sidelines of a Nato summit earlier this month.
“Orban proposed to deploy Hungarian soldiers to the airport in a Turkish-led mission,” one person familiar with the meeting told Middle East Eye. “Orban would like to show the alliance that Hungary is an important partner that can deliver results.”
Orban has increasingly been criticised by EU and Nato countries over his authoritarian policies, which sources said had spurred him to move closer to Turkey.
“He is increasingly feeling sidelined. His future after the elections next year is also at stake,” the second source said.
Previous experience
Turkish officials, on the other hand, believe Hungary could be a good addition to the mission from a technical point of view. Officials in Ankara point out that Hungary already has experience securing Kabul airport from its participation in the mission between 2010 and 2013. Since then it has undertaken occasional other missions at the facility, too.
“Hungary is a logical choice because they are well aware of the security weaknesses of the airport. They know the terrain well,” one Turkish official told MEE. “There are also longstanding defence ties between Turkey and Hungary, making it easier for us to work with them. “

A spokesperson for the Hungarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade avoided responding to direct questions on Hungary's possible role in the protection of Kabul airport.
However, the spokesperson tied the issue to the security of Europe and migration.
“The most serious of these is the risk of further waves of migration, due to the rise of terrorism,” the spokesperson told MEE. “The threat of terrorism and the emergence of migratory waves has to be prevented.”
The spokesperson, without elaborating, said necessary steps are currently being negotiated, but no decision has been taken.
Hungary, which has previously had around 150 troops deployed in Afghanistan, currently has only nine soldiers in the country, according to a statement by the country’s foreign minister in April.
Orban, known for his anti-refugee stance, specifically towards those from Muslim countries, last year increased its military budget by 30 percent to 2.2bn euros ($2.6bn) to purchase helicopters, battle tanks and missile defence systems. He also announced a military modernisation campaign worth billions of euros to be pursued over the next decade.
Close to a deal
No formal deal has been reached by Ankara and Nato over Turkey taking responsibility for Kabul airport's security. However remarks by both Erdogan and US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan indicated that the two countries were close to striking an agreement.
“President Erdogan indicated he would need, as you said, certain forms of support to do that. And President Biden committed that that support would be forthcoming,” Sullivan said last week during a briefing. “President Erdogan expressed satisfaction with that, and the two of them tasked their teams just to work out the final details.”

A Nato communique promised to maintain the funding for the airport earlier this month, meeting a Turkish condition, but Ankara is also seeking logistical support, such as the deployment of drones, defensive equipment and troops from other allied countries.


A Washington source told MEE that Erdogan had been hoping for favours from the US in return for taking on the Kabul mission.
“It is true that Turkey always had a historic and friendly relationship with Afghanistan,” the source said. “Yet in return, Ankara wants solid concessions from Washington, including on the issue of S-400s.”
Turkey's purchase of Russian-made S-400 missile systems has caused consternation in Washington, and prompted sanctions on Ankara.
The Taliban, however, warned Turkey in several statements last week to leave with other foreign Nato troops, warning Erdogan not to make a "big mistake".
Sullivan said the Taliban’s threats shouldn’t deter Turkey from efforts to provide security for Kabul airport.
“We do not believe that what the Taliban has said publicly should or will deter the efforts underway right now to establish that security presence, which in turn will enable international missions - diplomatic missions to operate,” he said.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/afghanistan-turkey-hungary-kabul-airport-protect-partner-wants
It's hilarious. Orban doesn't want aliens in his dump of a country, but is happy to be part of a campaign in another country. Meanwhile Self styled Sultan Erdogan has no problems working with Muslim hater Orban, all whilst acting like the next Salahdin for media soundbites.

He don't take any airport and i suspect he'll regret it if he does.
Agreed. Now how do we make the rest of our fellow Pakistanis understand this? That is the million $ question.

Gents, I think there is more to it that meets the eye. Please watch this news item. Will answer a lot of question.



The issue is not Turkey presence in Afghanistan, rather the NATO flag that it might be under. I sense there is something going on at the background with Chinese pulling the strings, which I am ok with.
 

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Partially correct but South Asian growth rates are now going towards stagnant mode in not so distant future at end of century it will be Sub Saharan Africa pushing the world's population growth forget Europe and it wont be Asia at all
Lol south asian breed like rats i do not know are referring to South Asian or Bitcoin trend ? but who cares just live ur life bro , if u start thinking about this stuff then ur gonna go mad .
 

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AS you guys know I don't give a rats a*ss about ummah or the even the idea of Muslim world. It does not exist. We have nation states and we should ne nationalists.
nationalism gave you 2 world wars... indian hindutava turds. how is your dear concept of nation state any good for humanity?

nationalism is western bs and like every white ball licker you cling to their idea tighter than their under garment!

kallay angrez Pakistan keh kamal hain!
 

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Don't bet on that. Turks are warriors to boot and will have ready made brothers in Afghan Turkics like Uzbeks of Dostum, Turkmen etc. The only issue is this will place Pakistan in a right sticky wicket.
If Turkey uses Dostam against Taliban the fight is going to get bloody. Pakistan is closely monitoring the situation and playing along. Pakistan will use its card depending on the situation once the Americans withdraw completely.
 

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Hungarians, legend has it are Huns from Eurasian Steppes thus are a Turkic people. I think that is what binds the Turks with Muslim hating Hungarians.
Over online interactions with European Right Wingers over the last decade Hungarians come up to be neutral or Turkophiles the only thing they dislike is the Ottoman occupation of Hungary and them being a symbol of Islam otherwise you are right their ethnic origin bind them together to a extent again not confirmed hell Gabor Vona the leader of The Hungarian Far Right Party Jobbik has visited Turkey several times and is a Turkophile Hungary itself is a observer or to be observer in the Turkic Council and is hosting in couple years the World Nomad Games which have been held in Kyrgyzstan recently before Covid
 

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nationalism is western bs and like every white ball licker you cling to their idea tighter than their under garment!
Listen you fcukin low IQ tard. This ver forum is premised on nationalism. It is called PAKISTAN DEFENCE representing a nation called PAKISTAN flying a national flag of PAKISTAN. Is this ummah forum or Islam forum etc. Go there if you want to chase the ummah.
 

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Lol south asian breed like rats i do not know are referring to South Asian or Bitcoin trend ? but who cares just live ur life bro , if u start thinking about this stuff then ur gonna go mad .
Well that's more of a personal observation I am talking long term the average women in Pakistan back in 1965 TFR was close to 6.5 its declined to around 3 not bad but as economic and social changes come expect growth to fizzle it will happen
Don't bet on that. Turks are warriors to boot and will have ready made brothers in Afghan Turkics like Uzbeks of Dostum, Turkmen etc. The only issue is this will place Pakistan in a right sticky wicket.
The question for Pakistan how to conduct foreign policy pragmatically without the illusion of "Musliminess"
 

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Listen you fcukin low IQ tard. This ver forum is premised on nationalism. It is called PAKISTAN DEFENCE representing a nation called PAKISTAN flying a national flag of PAKISTAN. Is this ummah forum or Islam forum etc. Go there if you want to chase the ummah.
yeh smart ***! you are someone who believes a strand of dna unites people or someone who blindly worship western imperialism and what have they given the world! slavery! occupations! murders! hypocrisy!

and smart *** Pakistan like it or not is the only Country in the world that was created for Muslims and Islam not for imperial sheeps!
 

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You know I am liberal but trust me our women are the receptacles of our civilization. They give birth to our next generation and cradle your future. In the past the the greatest ignominy and satisfaction of the victor over the vanquished was he would ride your women and implant his seed in the cradle of your future. Many westerners are now realizing that the collapse of the west will be between the legs of their women who all too often choose to breed offspring Africans. It's too late for them. Now I see the same danger to our society but tis will be by using the 'Muslim' card whereas in the west it was rap, dance and ganja.


EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!...............You have just echoed my sentiments.

Bro, things are changing albeit slowly. These retards who are anti-Pakistani, but are willing to die for the "Ummah" are FAR fewer now than they were in the 1990s/2000s. Most Pakistanis especially the young are coming to our way of thinking. The wannabe african breeders are an insignificant minority in our community. NOTHING like compared to the whites. Our women are sacred and precious to us.
 

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