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Afghanistan: Taliban won't talk because it is winning

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  1. sbh02

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    Taliban is not Al-Qaeda or ISIS for Americans:

    https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews....iban-terrorists-white-house/story?id=28588120

    Taliban is not Al-Qaeda or ISIS for Americans:

    https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews....iban-terrorists-white-house/story?id=28588120
    Nek Mohammad was never part of the Afghan Taliban either. He was part of the original Mujahideen fighting group in the 80s, and later was a part of the TTP.
     
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    But negotiations with Taliban are acceptable for the Americans, but they don't negotiate with ISIS, Al Qaeda.
     
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    Yes, negotiations with Taliban is OK, but not as Afghanistan's government.
     
  5. Iqbal Ali

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    The NATO is negotiating with the Afghan Taliban, hence the Afghan Taliban is a national party of Afghanistan.

    TTP are damned terrorists who conduct blasts in Pakistan.

    excellent point there.
    Hence the "Afghan Taliban" is a legitimate party of Afghanistan.

    You answered him.

    The Afghan Taliban are NOT TERRORISTS according to the White House, but the Pakistani Taliban or TTP are terrorists.
     
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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-killed-injured-kabul-terror-attack/96390066/

    Suicide attacks are not legal warfare. It is terrorism.
    Attacks on ambassadors are also terrorism.
     
  7. Iqbal Ali

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    The Afghan Taliban are not terrorists according to USA.

    Whats your problem now??? :disagree:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/taliban-terrorists-white-house/story?id=28588120

    Taliban Are Not Terrorists, or So Says the White House
    • By JONATHAN KARL
    Jan 29, 2015, 4:24 PM ET
    They act like terrorists, they regularly kill civilians like terrorists, but the White House does not consider the Afghan Taliban to be a terrorist group.

    “They do carry out tactics that are akin to terrorism. They do pursue terror attacks in an effort to try to advance their agenda,” White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest explained today, but “they have a different classification.”

    Semantics aside, the Taliban is suspected in multiple attacks over just the last 48 hours that have killed more than 30 people, including a suicide bombing attack on a funeral in Afghanistan today that killed 16 and wounded 39.



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    Even so, the White House does not call the Afghan Taliban a terrorist organization, Earnest explained, because they are “different than an organization like al Qaeda that has a much broader global aspiration to carry out acts of violence and acts of terror against Americans and American interests all around the globe.”

    The issue has come up because the White House insisted on Wednesday that a prisoner exchange between Jordan and ISIS would be different than the prisoner exchange the United States made last year with the Taliban to gain the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

    “Our policy is that we don't pay ransom. We don't give concessions to terrorist organizations,” Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz said Wednesday. “This is a longstanding policy that predates this administration. And it's also one that we've communicated to our friends and allies across the world.”

    Schultz explained that the exchange the United States made with the Taliban -- releasing five Taliban prisoners from the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in exchange for the release of Sgt. Bergdahl -- was consistent with that policy because the Taliban is an “armed insurgency” and not a terrorist organization.





    But the Obama administration isn’t entirely consistent on this point.

    On one hand, the Afghan Taliban are not on the State Department’s list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations (the Pakistan Taliban is on that last). On the other hand, the Taliban is on the Treasury Department’s list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists, a classification that allows their assets to be frozen.

    And even as Earnest was explaining why the Taliban are not terrorists, he slipped, calling them ... “terrorists.”

    “We have not ruled out that there would be some situations in which U.S. service members would still carry out operations in self-defense against the Taliban or other terrorists who are operating in Afghanistan,” Earnest said.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/taliban-terrorists-white-house/story?id=28588120
     
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    The US does not have a monopoly on denominations.
    Any non-state actor committing a terrorist act is a terrorist.
    The Talibans are committing terrorist acts, therefore the Talibans are terrorists.
    That makes YOU a terrorist supporter.

    Your desperate attempts of arguing are not convincing.
     
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    And attacking countries under false pretext of WMD makes them what?
    St. Thomas ??
     
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    You are not getting it,the countries you have mentioned have stakes in Afghan peace and when they have stakes in Pakistan they will talk to TTP for example if chinese investments are threatened by TTP in Pakistan ,chinese will ask you to talk to TTP and they too will talk to TTP and that dsnt make TTP suddenly non terrorist organisation.

    You are going around circles and avoiding my simple close ended question.
    Your whole argument revolves around,since some countries are talking to afghan taliban they are not terrorists.

    My question
    Will you say TTP are not terrorists if some countries start talking to them ? Yes or no will do.
     
  11. Iqbal Ali

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    Nor are your arguments convincing either. :lol:
    When the White House says the Afghan Taliban are not terrorists, then they are not terrorists.

    USA recognizes TTP as a terrorist organization.
    TTP are bloody terrorists.

    Afghan Taliban are not, that is why USA is negotiating with them.
     
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    Americans also say hafeez is a terrorist,mullam omar who died in a hospiatl in pakistan a terrorist,obl killed while living in Pakistan a terrorist,your point since US said so,you can fry those papad some where else.
     
  13. Iqbal Ali

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    Yeah but USA is in Afghanistan. :rofl:
    USA needs to leave Afghanistan now. :D
     
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    @The Eagle
    Troll alert! Time to use that new fond power and put it to good use. :bounce:
     
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    Taliban are delusional sooner or later there will be huge internal
    Fighting btw these two groups "taliban and isis " the mayhem And killings will give taliban a taste of their own medicine ..once that done taliban may join mainstream.. till than enjoy the show