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Afghan soldier kills two Nato troops in insider attack: Isaf

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  1. datalibdaz

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    KABUL: An Afghan army soldier killed two Nato troops in a new “green-on-blue” insider attack Monday, the US-led International Security Assistance Force said.

    “A member of the Afghan National Army turned his weapon on Isaf forces, killing two Isaf service members in (eastern) Laghman province today,” a spokesman told AFP.

    “Isaf soldiers returned fire and killed the attacker.” The latest deaths take the toll from insider attacks this month alone to 12 and to a total of 42 this year, making up around 13 percent of all Nato deaths in 2012.

    Nato has struggled to stem the attacks in which uniformed Afghans turn their weapons against their international allies and they have become a major issue in the Afghan war, eroding trust between the two forces.

    Taliban insurgents claim responsibility for many of the attacks, but Nato attributes most to cultural differences, stress and personal animosity between Afghan troops and their international allies.

    The commander of Nato forces in Afghanistan acknowledged last week, however, that the Taliban may be responsible for a greater share of insider attacks than previously claimed by the Pentagon.

    US General John Allen told reporters that about 25 per cent of all such attacks were the result of the Taliban infiltrating Afghan forces, after the Pentagon had said the Taliban were responsible for only about 10 per cent.

    Allen said the attacks were caused by various factors, including “disagreements, animosity which may have grown between the individual shooter and our forces in general, or a particular grievance”.

    He said that the recent spate of assaults may have been related to the Muslim holy month of Ramazan, as Afghan soldiers were under strain from fasting in intense heat while engaged in combat. But Ramazan ended last week.


    Afghan soldier kills two Nato troops in insider attack: Isaf | DAWN.COM
     
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    Having to resort to suicide attacks.
     
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    This is becoming a routine now. And we know who is going to be blame for this as well. :rolleyes:
     
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    My the Soul Of Brave Soldiers Rest In Peace...
     
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    GoB, highest this year.
     
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    RIP - it's pretty much an epidemic now.
     
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    Nice tactics by the Taliban (might be). RIP to the soldiers.
     
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    RIP to soldiers...
     
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    (CNN) -- An Afghan soldier killed two American troops Monday in the latest attack by Afghan security forces on coalition soldiers, authorities said.
    The killings occurred the same day 10 Afghan soldiers were killed when members of their own unit opened fire on them at an army post in southern Helmand province, according to provincial officials.
    The latest attacks come at a sensitive time for the United States and its NATO-led allies, who are preparing to withdraw the majority of their troops by 2014 under a plan that requires Afghan forces to take responsibility for the country's security.
    NATO: Most attacks on coalition troops driven by personal grievances
    A defense official not authorized to speak on the record confirmed the nationality of the two Americans. The official said circumstances are still under investigation, but it appears to be an insider attack.
    Pentagon: Afghans killing U.S. troops Special Ops troops lured then killed
    With Monday's killing of the two, at least 42 NATO troops have been killed in attacks by Afghan forces or insurgents disguised as soldiers or police, according to coalition officials.
    U.S. Marine Gen. John Allen, chief of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force, said last week that an estimated 25% of such attacks are carried out by Taliban infiltrators.
    The coalition did not provide details of the attack in eastern Afghanistan, saying only that NATO "troops returned fire, killing the ... soldier who committed the attack."
    Afghan authorities, meanwhile, are investigating the attack by five soldiers on their own unit in Helmand's Washir district, which killed 10 people and wounded four, said Daud Ahmadi, a spokesman for Helmand's provincial governor.
    There has been no claim of responsibility for the killings, and the governor's spokesman did not outline a possible motive for the attack.
    Elsewhere in Afghanistan, authorities accused the Taliban of killing 17 people, including two women, in the Shah Karez region of Helmand province north of Kandahar, the Interior Ministry said Monday. A dispute between two Taliban commanders over two women led to the killings, Ahmadi said. Earlier reports by the Interior Ministry that said the victims were beheaded were incorrect, according to Ahmadi, who said the 17 were either shot or stabbed.
    The attack occurred Sunday, the ministry said. The provincial government confirmed the killings but stopped short of accusing the Taliban, saying officials were still trying to determine who was responsible.
    Allen condemned the latest violence, calling those responsible for it "cowards, killing innocent men and women."
    Coalition troops in Afghanistan armed 24/7
    Coalition steps up fight against Afghan 'green-on-blue' attacks
    CNN's Chelsea J. Carter and Barbara Starr contributed to this report.
     
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    The U.S. and Afghan governments take these attacks very seriously, but it’s important to remember that we’re talking here about a handful of attackers in an increasingly capable Afghan force that has grown to 350,000 members.
    We want to make it clear that we are not downplaying the seriousness of these incidents. Senior officials from the U.S. and Afghanistan recently spoke on the matter. U.S. General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joints Chief of Staff, who was in Afghanistan shortly after this incident, said: “For the first time, I found that my Afghan counterparts are as concerned about the insider attacks as we are. I think you’ll hear us start talking about these incidents more as ‘insider attack,’ rather than green-on-blue, because what that does is it understates the effect that this is having on the ANSF itself. They’re suffering from the same ... trend that we’re suffering from.” From the Afghan side, ANA Chief of Staff General Sher Mohammad Karimi said in an interview with the Washington Post: "Soldiers must feel that they are under the full surveillance of their leadership at all levels. Initially, it will have a negative impact on morale, but we have to do something. We have to look seriously at every individual.”
    Here are some of the strategies that are being implemented to prevent these incidents from recurring. You can also click on the link below and read in detail:

    “The head of the Afghan army has ordered that 150,000 soldiers - three quarters of the force – be reinvestigated for security vetting and to be enrolled on biometrics.”

    “Hundreds of soldiers, who have shown signs of radicalization, including travel to and from Pakistan, have been discharged. “

    Nato moves to thwart Taliban infiltration of Afghan police and army - Telegraph

    President Obama clearly acknowledges the seriousness of the situation and this is what he had to say a few days ago: “I just spoke today to Marty Dempsey, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who happens to be in Afghanistan. He is having intensive consultations not only with our commander, John Allen, on the ground, but also with Afghan counterparts. And I’ll be reaching out to President Karzai as well -- because we’ve got to make sure that we’re on top of this.” Furthermore, President Obama’s concern was conveyed through Josh Earnest, White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary, as well:

    “The President spoke pretty clearly and candidly yesterday about the concern that he has about the pace of the insider attacks that are cropping up a little bit more frequently. There are a number of things that our team has put in place to try to deal with some of these challenges -- some more counterintelligence measures, some closer cooperation with village elders who can vouch for the efforts of our allied forces there. The President also referenced the Guardian Angel program.”

    LTC Taylor,
    DET, United States Central Command
    www.Centcom.mil/Ur
     
  11. datalibdaz

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    The first bold part:
    How do you know they are a handful of attackers, They may be 50 or 100 or 1000 or may be more than 50000?

    Second bold part:
    Sorry it seems like you are suffering more..If you see the previous attacks it seems like every attacker kills 2 or 3 or more US/ Nato soldiers.

    Third bold part:

    Looking after every soldier of an army of 350000, whole lot of work to do..

    Fourth:

    Now dont put your war losing blames on Pakistan. You are fighting a war in afg for last 12 years... You are not securing the border from afg side.. Attacks on Pakistan soldiers from afghan border and you dont take actions.. You are under control for recruitment of afghan soldiers in army not pakistan..In the end its your war, dont blame Pakistan for your losses.
     
  12. Abu Zolfiqar

    Abu Zolfiqar Rest in Peace

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    small handful? then why are Afghans told to relinquish their service rifles even at Bagram while their American/NATO counterparts are ordered by their COs to KEEP their rifles at all times?

    this is just another instance where what the Pentagon is reporting is unrealistic and ignores reality on the ground....in the past 2-3 weeks alone there have been several Green-on-Blues (cute term by the way)

    its created severe trust gaps between the "greens" and the "blues" and this is even an admission made by your defence minister/secretary
     
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    73 have died from "green on blue," any death is a tragedy, but hardly a major blow. (though the effects can't be fully stated by KIA, trust is eroded). It kind of encourages me actually, you don't turn to these sorts of tactics unless you can't hope to fight in the open (Japan didn't use Kamikazes until they had no hope of facing the US)