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A very powerful and influential religious minority in Pakistan is openly printing and distributing altered and wrong version of Quranic translation

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Not open but very hidden and secret.

Put your energies in use where they matter.
It’s open war against Islam.
They do it through hidden ways.
But they openly declared war on Islam by their actions.
First step to countering this is to stop worshipping Pakistani institutions like their defenders of Islam. This is something you cannot do. Acknowledging how Islamic Pakistan actually is, is first step to the solution. You guys think Pakistan is some caliphate and worship its institutions while they’re full of filth. Your blind worship of them allows them to support people like this who openly declare war against Islam. You people are part of the problem. We In Sha Allah will put our energies to good use but people like you stand in our way blindly worshipping these taghuts.
Pakistan is only “Islamic” by name.
 

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State control of religion must be implemented, even if it's imperfect. The laissez-faire approach of countries like Pakistan leads to utter degeneration.

This needs to implemented on issues beyond just Quran printing; sermons, madrassa curricula, etc.

But our governments (and mil establishment) has always chosen appeasement of popular religious lobbies.
Pakistan must become Islamic to defeat ignorant Mullahs and munafiqs.
The farther we go from Islam, the more powerful we make these Mullahs or these kaffirs sects who claim to be Muslims.

Secularism won’t destroy ignorant Mullahs
Truly following Islam will destroy ignorant mullahs
 

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State control of religion must be implemented, even if it's imperfect. The laissez-faire approach of countries like Pakistan leads to utter degeneration.

This needs to implemented on issues beyond just Quran printing; sermons, madrassa curricula, etc.

But our governments (and mil establishment) has always chosen appeasement of popular religious lobbies.
cause they are more powerful than the state
 

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cause they are more powerful than the state
Cause the state is in bed with secularism so ignorant Mullahs have a field day exploiting Islam and becoming powerful.

The state of many Pakistanis is you can’t even teach you children the basics of Islam you need a mullah to do that.
 

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Cause the state is in bed with secularism so ignorant Mullahs have a field day exploiting Islam and becoming powerful.

The state of many Pakistanis is you can’t even teach you children the basics of Islam you need a mullah to do that.
Teaching secularism is bad enough but then at the same time giving power to opportunistic mullahs makes it worse.

To solve the issue you just need a centralised and correct narrative of Islam, with state regulated scholars as well as formal education so people aren't gullible and stupid.

These rètards want to get involved in politics but cannot even control one of the most fundamental core things about Pakistan properly.
 

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Typical Shia, end up cursing. So far non of the other Shia refuted this. So either learn thing or two about your beliefs or stop Resorting to Taqiyyah (deception/lying) to pump smoke screen here. So everything you said, is back on you.

I can copy/paste links here but you will refuse to acknowledge just like any qadiani can come on this forum and start asking for proof.

That's what am asking. Copy and paste the links of the altered Quran printed by Shias. Let us all see that.
 

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True, as long as intention is to translate honestly. Certain minority sect use translation to fit in their agendas. Shia tries to fit in Ali (r.a) and their beliefs while while Qadianis are doing to fit in Mirza gulam Ahmed Qadiani.
And Ahmed Raza tried to fit auliah in place of Allah...
 

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It’s open war against Islam.
They do it through hidden ways.
But they openly declared war on Islam by their actions.
First step to countering this is to stop worshipping Pakistani institutions like their defenders of Islam. This is something you cannot do. Acknowledging how Islamic Pakistan actually is, is first step to the solution. You guys think Pakistan is some caliphate and worship its institutions while they’re full of filth. Your blind worship of them allows them to support people like this who openly declare war against Islam. You people are part of the problem. We In Sha Allah will put our energies to good use but people like you stand in our way blindly worshipping these taghuts.
Pakistan is only “Islamic” by name.


Who worships whom?

Whom shud we worship? Bachay baaz afgans or middle eastern tyrants or khwarij scum ? Enlighten me please

Classic definition of khwarij is to use religion to declare others as lesser or non Muslims to settle you own political and or racial misfortunes

Word used in hadees is dogs of hell about khwarij

And this fitna has killed Muslims in name of islam starting from times of hazrat Ali RA to Abbasid to ottoman alike

The pure Muslims who kill other Muslims caz they simply don't agree with their politics or racial superiority delusions
 
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It’s open war against Islam.
They do it through hidden ways.
But they openly declared war on Islam by their actions.
First step to countering this is to stop worshipping Pakistani institutions like their defenders of Islam. This is something you cannot do. Acknowledging how Islamic Pakistan actually is, is first step to the solution. You guys think Pakistan is some caliphate and worship its institutions while they’re full of filth. Your blind worship of them allows them to support people like this who openly declare war against Islam. You people are part of the problem. We In Sha Allah will put our energies to good use but people like you stand in our way blindly worshipping these taghuts.
Pakistan is only “Islamic” by name.

Pakistan is under attack right now by Qadiyani faction

Every now and then they try to change finality of Prophethood clause in constitution of Pakistan.

There are Quran apps available on Google play, where Qadyanis have modified the translation/ayats with ill-intentions. We must be careful.

 

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May Allah’s wrath be upon those qadyanis. InshAllah they’re no match for the Almighty, their shitty tricks won’t work.
Fortunately most people have presence of mind to check authenticity of the translations before getting it.
We have to be careful in this era of fitnahs and stay firm within the religion and not be divided over little things.
InshAllah when imam Mahdi and hazrat Isa comes these non-muslim qadyanis be finished. Either they return to Islam or die with khwarij.
 

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If someone translates on his own to another language, say Japanese or Latin, who will certify the translations are accurate? What if there is a difference of opinion between the translator and the proofreader about how to interpret a word or a phrase? Many ancient/classic books have many translations, and they don't always match. I think there may be 100's of translations of bible.
Hence why Quran is traditionally not allowed to be published without the original Arabic text

Lastly the langauge has surprisingly remained unchanged in meaning and context. The fact Arabic remained so stable depsite being spoken so widely itself is a miracle

I honestly ask, what has religion given our country? Nothing. Perhaps we should focus more on what it means to be humans, we will get somewhere in life.
Asking the wrong questions.
Pakistanis haven't followed Islam ..christians follow it more.

Most Pakistani think that the standards set up by prophet and it's followers was too high for us and it should be only followed by western people to some extent.


For example stealing and assets beyond means is halal in Pakistan but Haram in western countries
 

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I honestly ask, what has religion given our country? Nothing. Perhaps we should focus more on what it means to be humans, we will get somewhere in life.

It is perhaps the most complex question of human existence. We, or at least a substantial part of human beings, need an answer to the meaning or purpose of human life or existence. Many of us find that answer in some religion. That inadvertently makes entry of religion or faith into other spheres of life, including politics. For such people, it is very difficult to detach the religion from other social phenomenon. It becomes a sort of compulsion, from which one can't escape. It all depends upon an individual that how much significance she/he places in faith. Difficult scenario.
 

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