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A Very "Constitutional Demand" From Recent Student Solidarity Drama

Discussion in 'Social & Current Events' started by Areesh, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. Alternatiiv

    Alternatiiv SENIOR MEMBER

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    You assume its my favourite.
     
  2. S.Y.A

    S.Y.A SENIOR MEMBER

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    and all of those marches were headed by ethno fascist parties like psf and jsqm.
     
  3. Brass Knuckles

    Brass Knuckles SENIOR MEMBER

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    I thought ppp is your favorite because it has always supported student unions
    But student unions are banned under munafiq ppp government
     
  4. Alternatiiv

    Alternatiiv SENIOR MEMBER

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    Universities are more than just grounds for absorbing in book contents like worms.

    In one of the sessions I have been to in Turkey. Here is how they defined Universities.

    A place, without political intervention, where you are able to not only learn, but express free speech and thinking, and shape your philosophy and thinking.

    It should be that way. Otherwise in the next few decades, you can't expect social change for the better if the only thing you want is bots capable of building planes, or cars, or capable of performing a surgery. Learning these does not bring about social change.

    There are many terrorists capable who are technical experts. Did learning that change their mindset? No.
     
  5. bananarepublic

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    Yes it is.
    A bananarepublic..
    Where fake news becomes the truth if said enough times.
    Where institutions are faulty to its core.

    The nation is misinformed and institution cannot do anything.
     
  6. Alternatiiv

    Alternatiiv SENIOR MEMBER

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    You assume wrong, and your assumption is exactly why you are so deluded.
     
  7. Areesh

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    My point is clear

    Since you support this drama by Desi commies

    I want to know what is your opinion about this hate speech by this ethnofacist Alamgir Wazir and if you don't support this hate speech like you claim then why don't you come out condemning it and condemning so called student March since they provide stage for this hate speech against the state

    I want clear answer. Lets expose you and this fake student march in front of everyone

    Then enlighten us with truth that you supoosedly have

    Dekhain to surkhon main kitna dam hai
     
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    A total of 50ish student took part in the protests here in gilgit.
    Making a huge ruckess on media doesnt mean that the whole students in this country have come on the streets.

    Lal party walee are never going to be taken seriously.
    Idealistic and over emotional that is what defines lal party.

    If it was a genuine protest for student rights then political and ideological affiliation would have taken a backseat.
    Properly analysis of this march clearly show that student rights have taken a back seat

    Surkh party are far away from realities of pakistan and its social structure.
    Surkh waluh ka danda ho jaee ga agar wo apne chutiyapa sai dur na hwai.
     
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  9. Areesh

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    So dozen or more ethnofacist and communist organizations managed to gather at most 500 guys in 40 cities and it is supposed to drive some so called sense into me

    While Jamiat managed to gather more people than all of these protests in just one city of Lahore but you would never be impressed by them :lol:



    Check this?? See the numbers??

    That is more than all the people who gathered in those 40 cities
     
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    Does anyone knows if universities like MIT and Stanford have student unions or not?
     
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    They hold debates not dramay.
     
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  12. Areesh

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    And this is no random outside protest

    This hate speech was delivered in the main protest in Lahore. You can see the dholki gang with Alamgir Wazir while he is giving that hate speech
     
  13. Alternatiiv

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    I will divide your post in to points and answer each one by one.

    1. Since you support this drama by desi commies.

    Okay, first of all. I don't approve of communism. I don't like the communist system. But their demands are genuine and have absolutely everything to do with that of a progressive welfare state.

    2. Your opinion about this speech by ethnoseparatist.

    I don't approve of it. What's my condemnation going to do? This takes me back to the other thread where Maximuswarrior posted a rape article and then tagged a former diplomat American saying profanities at him then saying why he doesn't condemn it.

    He answered this:
    "There is a significant distinction between you and me. You thrive, covet, and get great joy in rape-related threads trying to trigger others. It's part of your institutional learning in the ghettos of Netherlands, I suppose. It's why you imagine others to not feel any condemnation for such acts, and why you see everyone as anti-Muslims. It's your schtick on these forums, and sadly, the mods allow it."

    Frankly, I feel the same. You're trying really hard to label me. I can start posting threads about some sad incident and then start aggressively saying why haven't you condemned it yet. It's implied.

    3. I won't condemn the student march.

    It was a march by citizens of Pakistan, and the vast majority of the protests were sensible with genuinely good demands.

    4. Student March provides a platform to such people though.

    Yes, it does. That's the cost of free speech. So does the Parliament, they are in the parliament as well after all. Do you want me to condemn the parliament?

    Frankly, the solution is very easy. I wish I could remember the exact quotation or the person who made it. But it was something along this.

    The only reason anyone would want to keep your voice silenced is because they are scared of what you say, they don't have an answer.

    Hah, they have demonstrations all the time. Not just debates.
     
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    So they also say that they will drag the military on the roads or ask for a military's budget cut or support insurgents???
     
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    Will now revolutions be brought through Dholki?:lol: