• Wednesday, August 12, 2020

A suggestion for peace in Afghanistan

Discussion in 'Strategic & Foreign Affairs' started by fitpOsitive, Aug 1, 2020.

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  1. fitpOsitive

    fitpOsitive SENIOR MEMBER

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    The target audience of this thread are Pakistanis and Afghanis.
    Others may contribute, but please dont try to derail the discussion.

    Since past many years, we are observing the bad situation in Afghanistan.
    Afghanis blame that on Pakistan, may be they are right, but not completely.

    Afghanistan became a party against Pakistan since inception. You guys voted against us in 1947. You murdered our first prime minister. You supported Al-Zulfiqar traitors, and then TTP and what not. After all that, Pakistan increased its muscle in Afghanistan, and the result is in front of you.

    Now, you guys called for help from every beast and frog of the jungle. Did it help? Mark my words, it will not help. Whatsoever.

    So here I want to suggest something, that you(Afghanis) might not be realizing, but that's actually does matter(and will work for sure).

    Sign an agreement that clearly accepts Eastern part of Durand-Line as sovereign part of Pakistan, and accept Durand Line as permanent divider of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    In addition to that, insure Pakistan, that you guys will never poke your nose in Pakistan's affairs again, and that, Afghanistan will never become a party against Pakistan(No matter how much India tries).


    Trust me, we, with the grace of Allah, can transform the landscape in Afghanistan, not in years, but in months.

    We can really help you guys in transforming Afghanistan into a normal country.
    But, first we need help and good intentions from your side.

    We don't hate you, we are just cautious.
    @Mangus Ortus Novem @Maarkhoor @waz @Irfan Baloch @PanzerKiel
     
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  2. hussain0216

    hussain0216 ELITE MEMBER

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    Honestly I've just had enough of afghani

    I don't care what happens to them aslong as they don't bring their fassad here
     
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  3. fitpOsitive

    fitpOsitive SENIOR MEMBER

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    Yes bro, just to make Afghanistan more livable for the people.
     
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    That's their problem

    If they want to live like animals, then let them

    We just need to keep them out of the country

    They are a worthless fassadi donkey people


    We have done enough in supporting millions of namak haram Afghani refugees for decades, no more
     
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    waz SENIOR MODERATOR

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    Sign an agreement that clearly accepts Eastern part of Durand-Line as sovereign part of Pakistan, and accept Durand Line as permanent divider of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    In addition to that, insure Pakistan, that you guys will never poke your nose in Pakistan's affairs again, and that, Afghanistan will never become a party against Pakistan(No matter how much India tries).

    100% bro.
     
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    But I thought Afghans don't agree to the Durrand Line, right? How will it be some kind of a deal if you basically just propose your side of the bargain. I honestly didn't get you here.
     
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    To be honest! I don't see any hope or near time solution to this problem no matter whoever is in power in Afghanistan (even the Taliban).

    My understanding is that when a sizable group of people have the superiority complex over others, things always remain problematic until unless there is a brute force used (something on similar lines to what Soviets 'Inferior Slavs' used upon the Nazi Germans 'Superior Aryans'). Afghan Pashtuns, at least their ruling and or elite classes, strongly believe that they are an 'Aryan Race' and/or 'the lost tribe of Israel'. They treat Pakistan as 'Punjabistan' and think very low of Punjabis (regardless of religion Islam, Sikhism, etc). I guess the humiliation brought by Sikh Empire still haunts them, and later the mass troops employed by Brits from Punjab. They still live in Abdali's era and want to gain the lost glory back!

    In conclusion, this problem is like my Arthritis, my rheumatologist told me that there is no cure for this disease. He told me that you just need to make sure you have a healthy lifestyle and time to time you need to treat flare-ups with timely medication. Similarly, Afghanistan is stuck with Pakistan, and Pakistan is stuck with Afghanistan forever. So let's buckle up! It is going to be long ride. We just need to make sure that we treat each and every ethnic group equally in Pakistan and focus on harmony, equality, human and social development. As long as, majority and hopefully all of us agree to put together, any flare-ups from Afghanistan can be treated with proper medication.
     
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    I proposed an offer, that Afghans understand very well. Actually, you have to be in someone's shoe to understand such things.
     
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    How about a binding referendum district by district, and when everybody inevitably votes for Pakistan the issue can be buried forever.
     
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    only peaceful option is kick out every namak haram from paksitan and mine/fence /sniper/wall/robots/cameras/trunch this damn border .
     
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    Carrot and stick. Afghanistan is a violent tribal society that only respects power. The stick should be wielded ten times for every carrot. Any concession we make is seen as a weakness.
     
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    Anything that happened till 1949 or 1950 doesn't count. The South Asian countries were newly independent. They were under the influence of the departing ex-colonizers. Many agents of foreign countries held crucial positions in the newly established governments. Early policies, decisions and actions attributed to the newly born nations were actually dictated by British or Soviets.

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    Nobody agreed to what the British did in 1947; naturally everybody wanted more not less. The point is though that the language, rights, culture, development and unique identity of pashtuns is preserved on both sides of the Durand line. Pakistani pashtuns are equally proud as Afghan pashtuns. Hence there is no actual disenfranchisement and there should be no argument, except from trouble makers in Kabul and Peshawar. If anything, pashtuns fare substantially better in Pakistan. Just ask our PM.
     
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    Again, didn't really get what you want to imply here, but ok.
     
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    This has been offered countless times, but they refuse. Only thing left to try is bullets.
     
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