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Pakistan military establishment are the one keeping TLP alive for now... I was told in 2017-18, TLP will create pressure on PTI and Break PMLn vote bank and this is why, they are alive for now. THese puppets sometimes do stupid things just like this lynching but are often overlooked.

The implications are "Global". Trade implications such as those with EU, Strained relationship with Sri Lanka, and so on. If this is Establishment doing it than they truly are dumb arses, and God protects us all.
 

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You quoted good sections from his talk. And the below quote of his that you posted is to the point :

Till now in Pakistan the fight against these wrong interpreters of Islam, these actually anti-Islam militants was in remote places whereas, if I am not wrong, other than TTP all the other such groups found their establishment or existence in the cities right from Zia's time and even before. Syria has had this situation in the from the mid 1970s to the 1980s where the Western-government-sponsored Muslim Brotherhood criminals based themselves especially in Hama city and the Syrian forces defeated them. Watch this wonderful speech of President Hafiz al Assad from 1982 where he rails against the MB criminals. The current war in Syria - the 10-year-old war- is a new version of this.

In my opinion Pakistan should put Musharraf and Gen. Tariq together in appropriate roles to guide the security forces and remove the cancers once and for all. Pakistanis have progressive people like the young Arooj Aurangzeb ( the Leather jacket girl ). She draws inspiration from Faiz and others. Put such people in leadership.



"Dictatorship" is an inappropriate word. The correct one would be "Guide". Please see above and below as to my opinion of whom can be taken as inspiration and whom should Pakistan employ to start the change.



Didn't know that a country - Saudia - which prides itself on having the two holy mosques works on Capitalism ( interest-based economics and all ). Then again I didn't expect anything much better from Saudia where political refugees from Syria are present. These Syrians instead of assisting the forces of the progressive Assad's government and its international allies have been acting against it.



Hindutva has existed for 3000 years, ask the Dalits, the Shudras, the women and the other oppressed people. And you claim to be a Buddhist and your community has been genocided by the Hindutvadis yet you sing in praise of Hindutvadis here and complain against Muslims ? Please stop being a hypocrite.

And why do the Hindutvadis not stop being Hindutvadis and become evolved beings ? What stops them from doing that ?



Actually Deobandi thought which originated in India is the cause of all regressive thought among Muslims. Deobandis are as regressive, if not more, than the Wahabis and the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact Syed Qutb, the leader of MB, was also inspired by Deobandism. Deobandi thought is the Hindutvization of Islam.



Sensible Muslims have lived well in "secular" Muslim-majority countries like Nasser's Egypt, Libya, Syria, Algeria, Sukarno's Indonesia, for a time in Somalia etc. Read this thread of mine from 2016 whose OP is an article by Pakistani journalist Nadeem Paracha and is about Socialist and Communist activism among Muslims since the early 1900s. The aforementioned countries were conspired against by NATO because NATO is primarily a modern Crusader movement and wants the destruction of any progress among Muslims.

What about Hindutvadis who live in Hindu-majority India ? Why are they being crazy and overboard ?



1. Islam was the reform. Among all the older religions it is Islam that comes closest to modern Communism. I quote from my above linked thread :

So Muslims have the leave this Hindutvization of Islam and go back to the original Socialist and Communist spirit of their faith.

2. But you know what needs reform ? Who were the people in India who violently objected to Alia Bhatt's ad for Manyavar suitings some months ago just because the ad had Alia saying at her wedding that Hindus now should be doing "Kanyamaan" ( a respectful married life for the bride at her new husband's house ) instead of "Kanyadaan" ( the traditional abandonment of the bride by her parents into the untrustworthy hands of the husband and his family ) ? I will quote a section from my thread from 2015 whose OP is an article by an Indian Christian woman who married an Indian Muslim under Islamic law because it better secured her socio-economic situation in case of divorce :

So what needs reform ? :)



What is wrong with Indians ? :) You are talking as if India is an evolved society like a USSR, a Libyan Jamahiriya, a North Korea, a Syria, a Nasser's Egypt, an Algeria etc where the irrationals, anti-progressives people, the religious fools have been acted against with seriousness.



Exactly. Pontificating from a Western land about such heavens. Such types have made their Western host lands also poisonous places. Take that idiot Dawah Man for example.

On this forum there is that WhiteFalcon fellow from USA and there is of course @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE who lives in Britain and spams the forum with glorification threads about the Afghan Taliban.



And just three days ago @El Sidd chacha was glorifying Qadri.



Every sensible Pakistani should use this latest incident as an excuse and blame TLP, Taliban, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Jamaat-e-Islami and Tablighi Jamaat. Other progressive Muslim-majority societies have acted against such types and so should Pakistan is an even serious way. The mentioned groups are parasites and should not be allowed to exist. Be a Gaddafi, an Assad, a Nasser.

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Lastly, why are @Zarvan and @Areesh never to be found in such threads.
Because I am really angry on what happened. All these monsters needs to be arrested and hanged in public. Enough of this mob vigilantism.
 

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Very unfortunate incident..

Pakistan is losing its friends slowly but surely

Allah will not save Pakistan... HE has seen enough tantrums by Pakis in HIS name... Now he will unleash HIS wrath on Pakistan..

Run PakistanI run....

Agreed it was a very unfortunate incident ...
The motive behind the murder is surfacing slowly as main culprits and associates are now under arrest; that was nothing to do with religion, just covering a murder with some religious slogans won't suggest that there was a religious issue.
So be calm, such incident also happens in India, and on a higher frequency, the government of Pakistan is doing what could be done to bring the culprits to justice. The Indian government is even not up to that mark. Rather than just get the chance of trolling, you could be more positive in suggesting some positive steps.
 

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Lol so shoot someone for ripping up a poster your just as big an extremist as them, by that logic Norway should dropped a bomb on the muslims throwing bibles

Also I wonder how someone from Sri lanka can tell the difference from a Quran verse from gibberish
If you read all my posts you see I was replying to Indian poster who tried to throw fuel on the flames due to he’s hatred and posted Twitter that the Sri Lankan tore off quranic verses and dashed them in the trash can when it played out later in the thread it was TLP jungle bunnies sticker that was removed and the dirty Indian had spread a fake tweet I clarified I would applaud the person who removed the TLP sticker

Norway can go **** Santa for all I care and you should read thread from beginning before piping in with your dream of bombing babies from the sky
But it’s what you lot fantasise about and get a hard on when seeing childten suffering

unless your Indian then it’s only rape rape you approve and dream of .
 

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They were lynched because of their sect being deobandi, which overwhelming majority of Pakistanis consider heretics...
It is not a matter of sect since this is not Islamic teaching. These types of people are acting on their own enmity with nothing to do with Islam. They are too far away from Islamic teachings.

As Muslims and Pakistanis, we know how to treat our minorities and we always respect their rights. Now we are facing indian media guns and this is seriously impacting our relations with Sri Lanka. Our agency should look into this appropriately, i believe indian hands are involved in this incident.
Having successfully defeated terrorism, social terrorism has now emerged. We need to understand this type of warfare and plan our action against it to root it out.



As far as this is concerned, it is not our mentality unless foreign elements are involved.As the 9th and 10th of December approach, there may be pressure on Pakistan to choose sides.

If we do not break this cycle of lynching lawslessness, it will become a very serious issue.
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The implications are "Global". Trade implications such as those with EU, Strained relationship with Sri Lanka, and so on. If this is Establishment doing it than they truly are dumb arses, and God protects us all.
they dont care about the implications and frankly the GLobal entities kows it too..... Its all a game of chess where sometimes pawns do more than they are trained for and damage control gets into effect
 

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Agreed it was a very unfortunate incident ...
The motive behind the murder is surfacing slowly as main culprits and associates are now under arrest; that was nothing to do with religion, just covering a murder with some religious slogans won't suggest that there was a religious issue.
So be calm, such incident also happens in India, and on a higher frequency, the government of Pakistan is doing what could be done to bring the culprits to justice. The Indian government is even not up to that mark. Rather than just get the chance of trolling, you could be more positive in suggesting some positive steps.
Looks like it is very easy to create troubles in pakistan. India has its own problems but it is not like pakistan for sure.
 

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it’s wrong to burn him as I said a bullet to he’s head would have sufficed and no I’m not an extremist just stating what I would do if I seen anyone disrespect quraanic verses

Knowing your post history it is not surprising that you would make such a criminal statement. Forget about you taking ownership of Islam you should review whether it is not you who is demeaning Islam.

Are you for serious?

You should have said to @ARMalik :

The other reveled in provocation and dehumanising his own subjects which pushed his subject bodyguard over the edge.

Will you write Heart of Darkness part 2 this time about Ghazi Mumtaz Qadri ?

There had been fractions/fault lines between Muslims and Hindus, and within Muslims too. Things are stirred up time to time but under Zia, somewhat extremeism got patronage. However, he had its control and after Zia things got worse.

How did he have it under control ? From what I know irrational people were given patronage just like the Modi government has for Hindutvadis. There were groups set up for example to research how to harness jinn power to generate electricity.

Establishment (military+bureaucracy) still plays divide and rule for 'national' interests or to keep status quo. Like 85 elections and NS. Or MQM formation against Jamat-i-Islami. Or IJI formation in 92. State thinks that they can control these stooges for their gains but these people, who are corrupt since begining, get power and turn against their masters for self-gains. Like OBL was launched by CIA & Co but once he consolidated his power he steered/astrayed to his own path. It is a cycle.

True.

So supermacy of law should hold. If i am a minister and install a corrupt cop for my interests, that cop will do 2-3 extra things for his own corruption. I will save him using loopholes and he will be familirised with it and a cult is born. Even I am gone, the cycle will continue and corrupts keep begetting the corrupt. Overall, garbage in so garbage out.

Agreed.

I don't like Musharraf as he waivered corruption cases (NRO) for his power.

What do you mean ?

Also, we can't install leaders so no Urooj Aurengzeb. If only I can install someone, it wd Air Marshall Asghar Khan and Sajjad Haider.

1. Why not Urooj ? I am not talking about installing but just allowing her movement to flourish and allow them to agitate about the wider problems of society and organically take up leadership. As I said they also take inspiration from Faiz Ahmed Faiz and from Mashal Khan ( who was lynched by a similar-minded mob as about this Sri Lankan ). The Anglo-derived complicated political system of president, prime minister, MNAs, chief ministers, governors and dozens of other such elements in the hierarchy must end. There is no need to please USA or Britain by continuing their unscientific, anti-democratic and irrational political and socio-economic system. You know of my proposed socio-economic system proposal. Please read this thread of mine on how Libyan Jamahiriya style progressive and actually democratic political system can come about for Pakistan, for India and for everywhere else.

2. You have to write more of Asghar Khan and Sajjad Haider. I don't know about them.

2002 before the invasion of Iraq protests occured including muslims under the banner 'no blood for oil' in many western nations.

Yes I know there were protests including in Britain and the participants were progressive Muslims and non-Muslims. Tariq Ali was among the protesters. But my point is that Dawah Man's brainwashed young Muslims today in Western countries would not have been among those protesters but will precisely be among the tens of thousands of private criminal fighters recruited by NATO to fight its wars against Libya and Syria.

However Arab governments are not in line with their citizens.
Libya was a tragedy as Libyans lived in mich better country notions under Ghaddafi and Bashar Al Asad is still in power.

Sorry can you elaborate that please ?

Farvright groups are angry with their own governments hence they too need to release their frustration and muslims are the targets.
Islam is blamed becuase poor John cannot find work.

That is also true.
 
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How did he have it under control ? From what I know irrational people were given patronage just like the Modi government has for Hindutvadis. There were groups set up for example to research how to harness jinn power to generate electricity.
Bcz he only exercised force and didn't let anybody. Plus, he didn't allow any outside agency to get involved. He controlled both manpower and money under his control only.
 

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Bcz he only exercised force and didn't let anybody. Plus, he didn't allow any outside agency to get involved. He controlled both manpower and money under his control only.

Technically yes but he let groups like JI run loose in the country and then there was the so-called Afghan Jihad which was one of the big causes of the current situation.

And please reload my previous post. I had misquoted your post sections as being from Samurai Assassin. I have corrected that post now.
 

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