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A Russian Su-35 Took a Picture of a Stealth F-22 Raptor (That Might Be a Problem)

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    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...re-stealth-f-22-raptor-might-be-problem-41497

    “Now if you combine two aircraft, the fusion algorithm, now you have lines of bearing from two different sources. Where those two sources cross, the algorithm is going to compute a weapons quality track on that aircraft. So that’s a huge advantage for the warfighter to see that long before you’re in the enemy’s radar range.”


    An individual purported to be the pilot of a Russian Sukhoi Su-35S has posted a photo that is alleged to the a U.S. Air Force F-22A Raptor that supposedly was captured on the Flanker-E’s OLS-35 electro-optical infra-red search and track system.

    It is not clear if the photo is genuine or sort of attempt at disinformation. However, there is not much that can be gleaned from the information presented. Without the context under which the image was taken, it is impossible to make any real judgments.

    However, at close ranges, it is indeed possible that a Raptor—even with the F-22’s reduced infrared signature—would appear on the Su-35 electro-optical infrared sensors as it appears to be the case here (assuming the photo is genuine). Even civilian electro-optical infrared systems made by FLIR Systems can resolve a F-22 at close ranges as can be seen here in this video taken during the 2010 Farnborough Air Show . The fact is that the F-22 was designed to defeat infrared search and track from beyond visual ranges distances not at point blank range.

    At close ranges, the Raptor will appear on infrared sensors just like any other aircraft. In previous years such as during exercises in 2009, the Raptor has been captured in air-to-air footage shot from French Rafales using their Optronique secteur frontal (OSF) electro-optical/infrared search and track systems. Meanwhile, during Red Flag Alaska in 2012, German Luftwaffe pilots flying the Eurofighter Typhoon noted that they could acquire a track on the Raptor at ranges of about 20 nautical miles using their EuroFIRST PIRATE infrared search and track.

    The OLS-35 is not as capable as the PIRATE, but it is a decent sensor. According to Sukhoi, the Su-35’s OLS-35 infrared sensor can track up to four targets simultaneously at head-n ranges of 50km (27 nautical miles) and tail chase ranges of 90km (49 nautical miles). The system’s precise range depends on the aspect angle and other factors such as atmospheric conditions. The system also incorporates a laser which can precisely measure target ranges at 20km or roughly (11 nautical miles).

    Ultimately, it is long-wave infrared search and track—which can track stealth aircraft from extended ranges—that poses the greatest threat to aircraft such as the F-22. The U.S. Navy’s Block II IRST pod—combined with high-speed data-networks and advanced sensor fusion algorithms—is explicitly designed to be a long-range counter-stealth capability. “Can’t talk about specific experiments and specific threats, but IRST is designed to be a long-range counter-stealth technology,” Capt. David ‘DW’ Kindley, the Naval Air Systems Command’s (NAVAIR) F/A-18 and EA-18G Program Office (PMA-265) program manager, told reporters in May .

    The fact of the matter is that aircraft moving through the atmosphere will generate heat. “If the enemy aircraft coming at you is low radar cross section—low radar signature—it is still emitting a heat signature,” Bob Kornegay, Boeing’s capture team leader for domestic F/A-18E/F and EA-18G programs, told reporters in May. “So it helps us as the enemies are starting to develop their stealth aircraft. It helps us to defeat that by moving outside of that X-band range.”
     
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    I don't see the fuss. The best time America had for fighting Russia was in 1945 when America had nukes and fighter jets (from Britain) and Russia did not. Miss that opportunity, don't even think about fighting Russia again.

    @pakistanipower @vostok @gambit @LeGenD
     
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    within a visual range, if real war happen between USA/Russia F-22/F-35 will eat Su-35 with long range BVR AMRRAM @undertakerwwefan :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
     
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    If America invades Russia DC gets nuke. So that's not gonna happen.
     
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    and get nuke @undertakerwwefan

    And i am not talking about invasion or something but air to air fighter jets fights in other place on the planet, like in Syria @undertakerwwefan ;):enjoy:
     
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    Good. Then China dominates the world.

    Not gonna happen. Shooting down a jet is a declaration of war.
     
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    its will become WW3 and no one left on this planet @undertakerwwefan ;):enjoy:
    What happen in Vietnam war/ Korean war, did they exchange nukes @undertakerwwefan ;):enjoy:
     
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    That was a time of war.
     
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    what bogus logic you have:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:, and recently Turkey downed Su-24 did Russia nuke Turkey @undertakerwwefan o_Oo_O
     
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    That's because Su-24 flew into Turkey airspace. If America shoot down a Russia plane without reason it'll be war.
     
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    Ok so, uhm... where's the picture? o_O
     
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    Again bogus logic:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:, and why USA shoot down Russian jet without a reason you worthless troll @undertakerwwefan o_Oo_O
     
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    Shooting jet down without reason = declaration of war and Russia has right to nuke DC under such circumstance.
     
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    And why US will shoot it down Russian jet without war , first explain this @undertakerwwefan :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
     
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    You tell me. You are the one who says America might shoot down Russia jet without invading Russia.