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5 LETHAL CHINESE WEAPONS OF WAR (STOLEN OR COPIED FROM RUSSIA AND AMERICA)

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    5 LETHAL CHINESE WEAPONS OF WAR (STOLEN OR COPIED FROM RUSSIA AND AMERICA)
    TUESDAY, AUGUST 09, 2016 BY INDIANDEFENSE NEWS

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    by Robert Farley
    As the People’s Republic of China (PRC) emerged from war and revolution in 1949, it became apparent that the Chinese economy lacked the capacity to compete with the U.S. or the U.S.S.R. in the production of advanced military technology. Transfers from the Soviet Union helped remedy the gap in the 1950s, as did transfers from the United States and Europe in the 1970s and 1980s. Still, the Cultural Revolution stifled technology and scientific research, leaving the Chinese even farther behind.
    Thus, China has long supplemented legitimate transfers and domestic innovation with industrial espionage. In short, the PRC has a well-established habit of pilfering weapons technology from Russia and the United States. As the years have gone by, Beijing’s spies have become ever more skillful and flexible in their approach. Here are five systems that the Chinese have stolen or copied, in whole or in part:
    J-7:
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    In 1961, as tensions between the USSR and the PRC reached a fever pitch, the Soviets transferred blueprints and materials associated with its new MiG-21 interceptor to China. The offering represented an effort to bridge part of the gap, and suggest to China that cooperation between the Communist giants remained possible.
    The offering didn’t work. Sino-Soviet tensions continued to increase, nearly to the point of war in the late 1960s. The Chinese worked from the blueprints and other materials, and eventually produced the J-7, a virtual copy of the MiG-21. The Chinese eventually sold the J-7 (F-7 export variant) in direct competition with the MiGs sold by the Soviets. Indeed, after the US-PRC rapprochement of the early 1970s, the Chinese sold J-7s directly to the Americans, who used them as part of an aggressor squadron to train US pilots to fight the Soviets.
    J-11:

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    The collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s heralded a thaw in Russia-China relations. Russia no longer had strong reasons to withhold its most advanced military technology from the Chinese. More importantly, the huge Soviet military industrial complex needed customers badly, and the Russian military could no longer afford new equipment. For its part, the PRC needed new sources of high technology military equipment after Europe and the United States imposed arms embargoes in the wake of the Tiananmen Square massacre.
    Accordingly, the 1990s saw several huge arms deals between Moscow and Beijing. One of the most important involved the sale, licensing, and technology transfer of the Su-27 “Flanker” multirole fighter. The deal gave the Chinese one of the world’s most dangerous air superiority fighters, and gave the Russian aviation industry a lifeline.
    But the era of good feelings couldn’t hold. Details remain murky and disputed, but the Russians claim that the Chinese began violating licensing terms almost immediately, by installing their own avionics on Flankers (J-11, under Chinese designation). The Chinese also began developing a carrier variant, in direct violation of agreed-to terms. The appropriation of Russian technology undercut the relationship between Russia and China, making the Russians far more wary of transferring their crown jewels to the Chinese military.
    J-31:
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    Even before the Snowden leaks established extensive Chinese industrial espionage, Americans analysts suspected that China was stealing information associated with the F-35. The likely reality of this theft became clear when information about the J-31 stealth fighter became available. The J-31 looks very much like a twin-engine F-35, without the VSTOL capabilities of the F-35B.
    The J-31 also presumably lacks much of the advanced avionics that have the potential to make the F-35 a devastating fighter. Nevertheless, the J-31 may eventually operate from carriers, and could potentially compete with the Joint Strike Fighter on the export market.
    UAVs:
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    The Chengdu Aircraft Corporation's Wing Loong II unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) emerged at the 2015 Beijing Air Show - The Chinese UAV bears a distinct similarity in appearance to the Predator/Reaper family of drones
    In 2010, China lagged woefully behind the United States in unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) technology. Since that time, the Chinese have caught up, and are now producing drones capable of competing with US models on the international arms market. How did the Chinese catch up so fast?
    According to US intelligence, Chinese hackers appropriated technology from several sources, including the US government and private companies (General Atomics) associated with the production of UAVs. The newest Chinese UAVs closely resemble US aircraft visually and in performance, a remarkable turn-around time for China’s aviation industry.
    Night Vision Technology:
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    After the Vietnam War, the United States military decided that it would invest heavily in an effort to “own the night.” This led to major advances in night vision technology, including equipment that allowed individual soldiers, armored vehicles, and aircraft to see and fight in the dark. This equipment has given the US a huge advantage in several conflicts since the 1980s.
    China is seeking to end this advantage, and has geared some of its espionage efforts towards acquiring and replicating US tech in this area. This has included some cyber-theft, but also several old-style ops in which Chinese businessmen illegally acquired export-controlled tech from US companies.
    The Last Salvo:
    The United States has become increasingly aggressive about slowing down or halting China’s industrial espionage efforts. This has included indictments of PLA officers, broad condemnations of Chinese spying, and targeted reprisals against some Chinese firms. But given the extensive commercial contacts between China and the United States, stopping the flow of technology is virtually impossible. Moreover, China has developed a large, innovative technology economy in its own right. Indeed, as Chinese technology catches up with American (and in some cases exceeds Russian) we may see the Chinese run into the same problems with foreign espionage.
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    well the only fact worth considering is that China have this tech and can execute R & D more effectively that is only what matters because in a war no ones gonna say hey i dont care about this weapon this is copied they'll have to deal with it
     
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    but quoting Indian source for chinese weapons is a bit biased
     
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    Dont you know OP is an Indian flying a Israel flag? Real Israelli is in fact quite friendly to China. They look upon China as real next superpower.

    He post fakes article as he is very bitter of China far advance and powerful than his beloved lagging behind India. Still need to import large number of major weapons from western power.

    So much of superpowa :lol: Cant beat opponent then resort to slandering. Typical cheapshot. :enjoy:
     
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    yes i have realized he is a bit biased towards India
    well cant protest its everyones right
     
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    im not against any one im some time pot article thats agains india too

    i post what that interesting
     
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    Really, I saw you post large number of bragging post of India like bragging how India can be a superpower of weapon export in short time while all the negative posting of China like China only know how to steal and all inferior product. You looks a very bitter Israeli? Maybe becos we steal your UAV export market? :lol:
     
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    china dont still uav market china got reputation in the world of steal terchnology its fect but the true is that china is way more advanced than india its fect in the field more rich country china is going to be the next best thing after usa
    and yes india is our best ally after usa that the reason i replay for ther favor not because they are better
     
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    We have combat UCAV that Israel dont even have.



    You are not even fit to call other steal. You are just bitter China is advancing on all field and surpass Israel :enjoy:
     
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    we have combat uav heron tp 1000 kg p[​IMG]ayload 4650 kg take off weight
     
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    Show me a video of your mighty Israel UCAV on real combat footage, destroying ground targets or terrorist?

    China CH-4B is a proven UCAV in Iraq. 2 best maker of UCAV are USA and China only. Israel UAV is only good in surveillance but cant do combat duties.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/03/china-a-rising-drone-weapons-dealer-to-the-world.html
     
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    hermes 900 can be armed also

    isreal dont talk about combat capbility of there uav but we sold to india 10 of them and germany choose us too
     
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    Israel is making affordable, modern, capable of flying for days with long range able to carry a lot of weapons

    There is footage of the Eitan for example, it definitely was in the 2014 war, however I cannot know which one is it.
     
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    Your UAV cant do combat like ours. That is a step below compare to ours. It is a fact. Doing just surveilance and both combat duties and monitoring are hell lot different.