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4- Type 054 Frigates from China, Pakistan's next Goal

Discussion in 'Pakistan Navy' started by AZADPAKISTAN2009, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. AZADPAKISTAN2009

    AZADPAKISTAN2009 ELITE MEMBER

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    k no problemo , we will wait untill we get the announcement for
    Type 053 , and submarines :P

    Well I just don't understand why every one says we don't have cash

    I just posted two references with money figures in them

    I mean really 1 billion annually from 2005-2010 , and then another 2 billion in 2010 , and then promise of package of another 5 billion

    I think is more then enough to purchase

    4 Type 053 ships , and some cheap items like OHP 6 of them and other items..

    And the money is just because its for losses to our economy its not a donation , if it was not paid we would have gone to court and sued someone for losses in economy.

    Just like US sued BP for oil spill losses in economy war in afghanistan is our BP oil spill
     
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    But Sir I have to add something here about what the world and especially US owe us. Pak saved the world from the curse of communism and made the US the only global super power in the world. If at this time US won't sincerely care about Pak then I guess they will loose their status very soon . Hence the world owe us big time. US is not doing any favor by helping us out, instead they are doing favor to themselves...:woot::cheesy::agree:
    just my 2centz...bro's
     
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    I guess the other pplz in the forum don't wanna agree to u ..cuz I guess they know that the aid money promised by the US or western/world is just for the cheap popularity in the newspapers and thats all. This aid will never be reimbursed to Pak....:woot::agree:
     
  4. AZADPAKISTAN2009

    AZADPAKISTAN2009 ELITE MEMBER

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    Business & Financial News, Breaking US & International News | Reuters.com is a very reputable world news outlet from which other news companies get their data from , and also the cash has already been given its not if it will be given

    In any case, I will not add more

    I just based my thoughts on the press releases and actual figures that I see reported in reputable media (not a tabloid) , if people like to state ok we have no funds , and we are poor and we are cash stripped its their own decision and respect to individual thought

    I just see too much evidence to assume that we don't have 9-14 billion with Army which will be used for both Airforce and Navy in upcoming years

    In any case I am just excited for OHP to arrive in January , and will see how 2011 shapes up :pakistan: and hope we continue to get the OHP as planned, and the F22P we have being build in Karachi should also be making good progress
     
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    I've been on one of these.... :taz: :pakistan: :cheesy:
     
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    hope our navy wakes up and sign some real deals
     
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    Chuckles ..... :rolleyes:

    Type 053 frigate: Designed in 1962 ...

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    Again:
    - aid packages WORTH a certain amount don't necessarily mean Pakistan is given MONEY (but rather material items e.g. equipment, supplies or training).
    - even if money is disbursed, there are things Pakistan needs to do with that money, verifyable things. Either you DO things andthen get refunded the cost upon presentation of proof that you did. Or it is monitored whether you spend funds on 'ear marked' purposes. So, you can just simple use a portion (a couple of billion) of aid money for other purposes (like buying ships from China).
     
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    Besides the Nuclear powered sub and the six AIP subs, These Jiangai Missile Frigates are pretty good and we should really look forward to getting these!


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    Jiangkai II

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    PLAN Type 054A Jiangkai Class Missile Frigate
    The Type 054 (NATO codename: Jiangkai Class) is the new-generation multirole missile frigate for the PLA Navy. The main contractors are the Shanghai-based Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard and Guangzhou-based Huangpu Shipyard, both under the China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC). The ship was built in the improved Type 054A (Jiangkai-II class) variant, featuring an 32-cell air-defence missile VLS and Russian Top Plate 3D air search radar. The Type 054’s primary surface strike weapon system is the YJ-83 sea-skimming anti-ship cruise missile. Two quadruple launchers are installed at the mid-ship position. The missile uses active radar-homing to deliver a 165kg warhead to a range in excess of 180km. The initial two hulls in the Type 054 variant are equipped with an 8-cell Chinese indigenous HQ-7 (French Thales Crotale copy) short-range SAM system, with a maximum range of 13km. On the improved Type 054A this was replaced by a 32-cell VLS developed by Luoyang Electro-Optics Technology Development Centre (EOTDC). The exact model of the air defence missile is unknown, but some reports have suggested that it may be the 38km-range Russian 9M317 (NATO codename: SA-N-12) Shtil semi-active radar-homing medium-range SAM, or its Chinese copy reportedly designated HQ-16. The Type 054A is equipped with two Chinese indigenous Type 730 seven-barrel 30mm CIWS to provide short-range air defence. The Type 730 CIWS has a maximum rate of fire of 4,600~5,800 rounds/min and a maximum range of 3,000m. The gun is controlled by the Chinese-made TR47C fire-control radar and an electro-optic director, both mounted on the roof of the gun turret. A single-barrel 76mm gun (possibly Russian AK-176 copy) is installed on the bow deck. The ship also has two Type 87 six-tube anti-submarine rocket launchers, with 36 rockets (240mm calibre, 34kg warhead). The maximum range is 1,200m. (*The range doesn't make sense - too short for an ASW weapon system)
     
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    Type 054A guided-missile Frigate, FFG-530 “Xuzhou”
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    Type 054A guided-missile Frigate, FFG-529 “Zhoushan”
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  12. Indus Falcon

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    Just wondering if we are getting the Jiangkai A or B ? Can anyone confirm?
     
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    F 22P already has the capabilities of the Jiangkai I. No reason to get it again
     
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    May be it is bigger ship and will be used as Air defense ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Hmm there seems to be some ambiguity here. I believe there are three types of Jiangkai Type 054, Type 054A and Type 054B.

    On the Type 054B, I believe there is one in service. Could someone please provide some details?