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4 Chinese Destroyer Ships available for Purchase , Decommissioned 2 Months ago

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  1. AZADPAKISTAN2009

    AZADPAKISTAN2009 ELITE MEMBER

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    Lease these ships Till Type054 arrive in Pakistan
    Send a delegation and pick up the 4 units and add them immediately in Pakistan Navy

    Ships retired May , 2019**
    https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...oyers_Days_after_Commissioning_2_New_Warships
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    The destroyer flotilla of the Chinese Navy under the PLA Northern Theater Command held a retirement ceremony for four first-generation missile destroyers.

    The decommissioning of the 4 ships at a military port in Lyushun, Liaoning Province, followed the induction of two Type 052D guided missile destroyers in the naval shipyard of Dalian on May 12.

    Official media identified the decommissioned ships as the guided-missile destroyers Kaifeng (Hull 109), Dalian (Hull 110), Zunyi (Hull 134) and Guilin (Hull 164) All of the four destroyers had been in service for more than 30 years.


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  2. Rafi

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    Obsolete.
     
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  3. Foxtrot Delta

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    You gotta think why these were decommisioned. Also do they add debt or any ability to our navy.
    One new ship would be 10x better tha21stn 4 obsolete ones.

    If we were an African country like nigeria with very little money even then it would make no sense.

    But i gotta say i have very limited knowledge when it comes to navies.
     
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  4. Dual Wielder

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    I'm no admiral, but I don't think they would be that useful, due to their age, depending if they were recently upgraded, it doesn't look like they have VLS...
    If Pakistan can get them for pennies, sure go for them..
     
  5. AZADPAKISTAN2009

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    The weapons on board are superior to many of our ships

    Armament:



    They have Sea to Air Missiles + Anti Aircraft guns
    They have Anti Ship missiles (More quantity then our missile boats)
    They have anti Submarines Depth Chargers
    They got anti ship Torpedo
    Plus they can also lay down mines



    These are available now , vs waiting till Type054 arrives their is no delivery delay
     
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  6. Imran Khan

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    30 years old are enough to be retired . just wait few months type54 are coming
     
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  7. AZADPAKISTAN2009

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    These have Destroyer Designation , so automatically they are above frigate ships in term of fire power

    More capable then our OHP as these have all their weapons intact
    While we are getting new ships , it is 100% correct decision but till they arrive

    However we need a interim solution for between now and when the new ships arrive

    • They also can house , the anti submarine helicopters as well

    A much better option then swift ships we were once negotiating not long ago
    These 4 ship give us Anti Air , Anti Submarine , Anti Ship capability in one package

    Just thought it was a great option to consider considering the events unfolding around us

    The Anti Air & Anti Submarine , role would add more depth in our Navy's Present Need


    And yes one day when Type054 arrive then our navy can make decisions how to align the ships
     
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  8. ZAC1

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    many of our ships were decommissioned by US or by royal navy. Pakistan should go for it maybe china gift's us
     
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  9. AZADPAKISTAN2009

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    In term of finding place in our Navy that should not be an issue as these ships are better then most of our existing assets


    I hope our Navy sees the strategic benefit of acquiring these ships for short term or lease it
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    4x Chinese Retired destroyers >Swift ship , as swift ship is unarmed anti piracy ship:o:
    4x Chinese Retired destroyers >Our missile boats from 1980's
    4x Chinese Retired destroyer >OHP as OHP did not came with air defence
    4x Chinese Retired destroyers >Azmat Missile Boats (more weaponry Surface to Air , Anti Submarine etc)
    4xChinese Retired destroyers >Type 21 frigate (More weapons , more fire power )


    • Arguable our current F22P , is newer or similar , our F22P does not have the rocket barrage attack. Chinese Destroyers have Surface to Air Missiles plus , anti air cannons , plus mine laying ability and strong anti submarine characteristics


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    Yes ----- Arguable our future Type054 is newer :smokin:
    Yes ------Arguable our future Milgem is newer :smokin:
    hmm---- Damen OPV are unarmed at present being constructed can't compare unarmed boat with a destroyer





    In order to attain the right balance , the 4 Destroyer ships China has retired , could play a great short term role till we induct newer generational ships


    Instead of being parked in China , these are better patrolling Pakistan's Sea waters


    I mean these are excess , to what China needs and are just parked for last 2 months
     
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  10. AZADPAKISTAN2009

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    Radars went thru a 90's modernization

    Rockets
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    Cannon
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    Anti Ship missiles
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    Anti Air Gun
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    Surface to Air HQ-7
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    The cost of maintenance and operations of these four ships is far greater than our missile boats. Wait for Type-054s, improve our economy, become united, don't a fit like pregnant lady on a hot day everytime the swine-Modi squeals. India's economy is declining, this is the ripe time for Pakistan to strengthen it's state institutions and build a robust economy which is immune to globalized crap of IMF-WB and America. This will only happen when we have annihilated corruption and traitors from within us. Make it a strict rule, you want a better life .... then get off your lazy-azz and WORK HARD WITH HONESTY AND INTEGRITY AS A MUSLIM SHOULD!!!!

    Then we can have the money for 10 more Type-054s and even 8 Type-052 Destroyers.
     
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  12. AZADPAKISTAN2009

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    Lease , or grant or gift would be a good option
     
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    Yeah.we can made a museum from them and it reminds me that clip from battleship movie.:enjoy:

    @Imran Khan also your thought about it. :angel:
     
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    obsolete.
     
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  15. Imran Khan

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    but i want that japneese ship whom really fight in that movie