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27 people have died while attempting to cross the border from Morocco to Spain

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What's wrong? Just a bunch of black men running down the street. If you're scared then take them to continental Europe and disperse so you don't see too many new black in any single street.
What I see are some people forcibly trying to cross the border illegally.
Color matters are in your mind.
In your country, can anyone cross the border this way?
 

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What I see are some people forcibly trying to cross the border illegally.
Color matters are in your mind.
In your country, can anyone cross the border this way?

Yeah we have around 6 million illegal Indians. A country of 170 million does not need more people. Europe has large economy with declining population, so take it positively.
 

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Maybe European countries shouldn't have invaded, colonized and exploited these African and destroyed all their social political and economic structure. These people now making their way back is the only reasonable outcome of their predicament created by the Europeans in the first place. Least the Europeans can do now to accommodate them into the Europe.
We are in 2022 and not in 1920 or 1870. Blaming something that happened 100 years ago, I do not think you are looking at the issue rationally. Here we are talking about illegal immigration, forced entry into a foreign country, people who just say they are African because of color, not even knowing their nationality.
 
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Yeah we have around 6 million illegal Indians. A country of 170 million does not need more people.
Your number is too much, there are not 6 million Indians. only half a million according to the latest data of your country.


Yeah we have around 6 million illegal Indians. A country of 170 million does not need more people. Europe has large economy with declining population, so take it positively.
You do not solve the demographic problem with the illegal immigration, because you are destroying your social and economic capital.
 

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You wrong, Spanish never would do that, and the current slaughter is made by Morocco, it's not made by Spain.

They come because they are well treated, if they are welcome by machine guns they wont come, but Spain would never do that, Morocco maybe yes.

I'm not saying Spain would do such a thing, i am saying even if it did, they would still come. Spain is a victim of it's geography in this sense.

My point is, poverty and poor governance has gotten so bad in these parts of the world, people have no other realistic choice. Europe can do what it wants, they'll still come.

They don't come for the benefits and the housing and the the weather - that is a side benefit. They all come to earn money. The majority would sleep on the street if it meant they could still earn money to send home.
 

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I'm not saying Spain would do such a thing, i am saying even if it did, they would still come. Spain is a victim of it's geography in this sense.

My point is, poverty and poor governance has gotten so bad in these parts of the world, people have no other realistic choice. Europe can do what it wants, they'll still come.

They don't come for the benefits and the housing and the the weather - that is a side benefit. They all come to earn money. The majority would sleep on the street if it meant they could still earn money to send home.

I think is better be poor and alive, than with money and dead.

But Morocco brutality is pure evil, it must not be a option.

Often the expectances of richness of immigrants is higher before come.

Problems must be solved in the countries of origin, decreasing extreme porverty, that is what good willing people does like Bill Gates.

Solve problems when they come to the destination country makes the problem bigger, because it makes a call effect to other people, that is what evil twisted people like Soros does to unstabilize countries, and what EU does to get cheap labour force.
 

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Should we Europeans follow Turkish tactics?



Can Europe withstand so many economic migrants?
In the USA
where you live, as far as I know, those who have crossed the border illegally are deported. Should the EU pursue a similar policy?
In Dubai, as you say, there are no ... economic immigrants who entered the UAE illegally, only investors and employees with a permit from the emirate.
Europe is for everyone though. Turkiye just for Turks . so how is that fair?
 

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Europe is for everyone though. Turkiye just for Turks . so how is that fair?
What I was saying to another Turk: we are two different worlds.
Although Kemal tried to make you a secular state with a similar culture, your Ottoman past is stronger. The conversion of Hagia Sophia into a mosque is the strongest proof.

Today's Turkey has no place in Europe. And I am not only to saying that, but officially the EU and those involved in Turkey's accession.

Is this bad, that Turkey follows its neo-Ottoman policy? It is bad for its neighbors directly, indirectly and for you Turks.
 

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You wrong, Spanish never would do that, and the current slaughter is made by Morocco, it's not made by Spain.

They come because they are well treated, if they are welcome by machine guns they wont come, but Spain would never do that, Morocco maybe yes.
I agree. North African countries from what I have noticed and researched treat those blacks/subsahran Africans far worse than dogs which some of them even consider less than human. Lol . So their treatment there might help discourage some of them from coming to morroccco, Lybia , Algeria etc to emigrate to Europe .
To be honest, sometimes I actually feel sorry for some black people. They are actually looked down upon and marginalised in almost every continent they find themselves in, whether its in East Asia, Middle East, South Asia, South America, Europea or Oceania etc etc. Doesn't matter , they still looked upon as the bottom. If there is a really a GOD out there, then I guess he will take pity on them first , before any other race. 😅
 

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I agree. North African countries from what I have noticed and researched treat those blacks/subsahran Africans far worse than dogs which some of them even consider less than human. Lol . So their treatment there might help discourage some of them from coming to morroccco, Lybia , Algeria etc to emigrate to Europe .
To be honest, sometimes I actually feel sorry for some black people. They are actually looked down upon and marginalised in almost every continent they find themselves in, whether its in East Asia, Middle East, South Asia, South America, Europea or Oceania etc etc. Doesn't matter , they still looked upon as the bottom. If there is a really a GOD out there, then I guess he will take pity on them first , before any other race. 😅

Developing poor countries are highly racists with foreigners. It's a racism that never is talked.

e.g: There is a lot more racism in southern Mexico against Central America people than in southern USA against Mexican people.
 

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Developing poor countries are highly racists with foreigners. It's a racism that never is talked.

No it's a misconception. People in developing countries, whether in Asia or Latin America, are not remotely as racist as Whites. They don't have their own versions of KKK, Stormfront, Nazi & holocaust past, complete genocide & annihilation of natives of 3 continents and the list goes on..

The only country in the developing world that I can agree is as racist as Whites is India because of their religion, which inspired Nazism (Aryan, Swastika, Brahmin -> herrenvolk, Untouchable -> untermenschen etc.)
 

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