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27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

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On that fateful day when PAF shot down the Su30MKI and Mig21, it also on the same day shot down the entire indian strategy of "surgical strikes".

How many times since that day - have the Indians spoken about surgical strikes?

0-times !!!!

Shot down, crash and burned is the whole surgical strike doctrine ....
That's because we didn't need to talk about surgical strikes.
Just Balakot strikes were enough to force Pakistani military establishment to cut down on activities of LeT, JeM etc and causing a total collapse of insurgency in Kashmir.
It is no coincidence that Indian security forces casualties in Kashmir decreased to some of the lowest levels in 33 years.
Thanks to Balakot strikes, insurgency in Kashmir has been delivered a fatal blow.

not counting the two IAF jets shot down
Telling a lie 100 times, does not make it the truth.
 

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Su-30 shot over azad kashmir, aircraft in flames fell down in IOK, just like IOK residents and reporter described in this clip


and this one especially at the place of the Mi-17 crash, where the eye-witness is CLEARLY saying another plane, not a helicopter was shot down and fell nearby at the 2:20 mark


two different groups of witnesses, from NON-PAK media, FIRST CLIP SAYING PLANE WAS coming from pak side of border in flames and second clip confirming a plane crashing close by the helicopter as well, both confirmations of a plane being shot down and crashing in IOK. Keep in mind that this PERFECTLY FITS WITH ALLEN WARNES'S opinion stated in the swift retort documentary as to why would the shot down Mi-17 be in the area UNLESS IT WAS there to recover the Su-30 crew at the crash site which this witness said was right nearby.

This along with clips from the Pak side from witnesses claiming Sikh pilot and another being captured


ALONG WITH INDIAN MEDIA claiming a SU-30 shot down by Pak which you've probably seen a 1000 times now. Along with BOTH Pak pilots proudly claiming the kills openly on several media sources, and NOT A WORD from abhi-none-done anywhere confirming what he did, way too many coincidences pointing to one direction


And here we have Allan Warnes at 7:00 talking about what other reason the downed helicopter being in the area would be other than rescuing the downed Su-30 crew


Will just keep re-posting all these facts and evidences for all the naysayers :D
 

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One possible reasoning why Pak want to cover up the shot down of Su30. If Pak shot down one Su30 and at least one pilot killed. India would have to retaliate substantially. Things could escalate quickly. In current makeup, both sides only need spit each other on social media, which is very good outcome.
 

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One possible reasoning why Pak want to cover up the shot down of Su30. If Pak shot down one Su30 and at least one pilot killed. India would have to retaliate substantially. Things could escalate quickly. In current makeup, both sides only need spit each other on social media, which is very good outcome.

Didn't cover up the Su30 shoot down, however did cover up the captured / killed pilots for either the reason you mentioned or something even more significant. And here's another zinger, the Indian helicopter that was shot down was ALSO SHOT down by PAF and not by India's own SAM, THAT was for the exact reason you just mentioned. It was misidentified as a fighter plane by a JF-17 pilot and because it led to the deaths of 6 rescue personnel, that "self-kill story" was used by both sides so as not to be pressured into an escalation.

I will be posting some things here very soon regarding additional details of what else may have happened that day, a lot of it is gonna really ruffle some feathers lol, stay tuned.
 

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Didn't cover up the Su30 shoot down, however did cover up the captured / killed pilots for either the reason you mentioned or something even more significant. And here's another zinger, the Indian helicopter that was shot down was ALSO SHOT down by PAF and not by India's own SAM, THAT was for the exact reason you just mentioned. It was misidentified as a fighter plane by a JF-17 pilot and because it led to the deaths of 6 rescue personnel, that "self-kill story" was used by both sides so as not to be pressured into an escalation.

I will be posting some things here very soon regarding additional details of what else may have happened that day, a lot of it is gonna really ruffle some feathers lol, stay tuned.

Copy me in the email when you do, please.
 

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That's because we didn't need to talk about surgical strikes.
Just Balakot strikes were enough to force Pakistani military establishment to cut down on activities of LeT, JeM etc and causing a total collapse of insurgency in Kashmir.
It is no coincidence that Indian security forces casualties in Kashmir decreased to some of the lowest levels in 33 years.
Thanks to Balakot strikes, insurgency in Kashmir has been delivered a fatal blow.


Telling a lie 100 times, does not make it the truth.
Yes, we saw Pakistan Pounded Endian posts in daylight ... shot 2 jets (Mig 21 & SU 30MKI), and shot an Indian Heli with AMRAAM 120 C (yes it was not ''spider'', both sides know it and remain silent due to some reason) .... At least 8 personnel were killed that day (2 SU30 pilots + 6 Heli boys, all Indian). Yes, we saw after this incident who had the fatal blow and who had been silenced. All the above events have well-established proof from the Pakistan side.
On the other hand, India has none against its claims. Even the 2 trees they downed and one crow they killed that day were the only pics as claims they got from local social media posts.
 

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Speculation are Bipin rawat was assassinated by deliberate helicopter crash due to rawat was getting highlited more by indian media and gaining much more power in indian establishment modi was seeing this scinario a danger for him Bipin getting more power to challenge modi for power in future this is why new CDS now not getting much attention too
 

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PAF deployed JF-17 Thunder with REK & Mirage with H-4, & took precision strikes on Indian military targets, IAF scrambled Mig-21 Bison & Su-30MKI, PAF F-16s were on CAP, F-16s fired Aim-120C5 AMRAAM BVR, & shot down Mig-21 Bison (Captured Abhinandan) & another claim was Su-30MKI, Indian Air Defense shot down its own Mi-17 helicopter with its own ADS SPYDER, despite general perception, the real heroes of Operation SR were DA-20 EW/ECM/ESM & Saab-2000 Erieye, IAF didn't deployed Tejas on 27th as well.

Indian Air Force also didn't deploy HAL LCA Tejas during China-India stand-off 2020, the conclusion is that HAL LCA Tejas isn't an operational fighter jet while JF-17 Thunder is a combat proven fighter.
~ War on Terror
~ Iranian drone shot down over Balochistan
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Why were these gentlemen so sad on that day???

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Why were these gentlemen so sad on that day???

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ridiculed themselves by such act, it is one of it's own kind that one cannot expect from a professional air force.

but they did not stop there, kept going with their stupid theories. in particular was Modi theory of clouds being hurdle which whole nation devoured to save their embarrassment.

this is Modi's India but sane minds do exist there, they have their compulsions. with video posted above, such things are and will come out gradually.

let India shine under Modi and i wish it keep shinning more and more with this great man ruling.

oh my, find something out of politics to read and talk, thanks @Trailer23 .

PS. and i again say this thread won't die easy...
 

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