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Mr.Cringeworth

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Its true that global records do not have the su 30 or the f16 kill but on the other hand the f16 kill has been refuted by reputable sources even in the US government while no such thing happened for the indian su 30.

If no su 30 was shot down why didn't you have a count done by any third party like paf did and why didn't Russia come to support your claim?
Countless amount of evidence is there where even the local Indians have seen a plane crashing in your territory and then there was also a very sketchy news of two pilots dying in a car crash where no pictures have been posted.
 
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Adding another very well-known video where Indians themselves confirmed that their SU30 mki was shot down. Now, this is not something to ignore even 1 percent. Later they denied but how is this possible that a very major media channel breaks the news of SU30 shot down? Is it a joke? If it is a joke then it is the worst blunder in military history. They confessed first but in the nick of time they realized what mistake they have made, However, there was no use to cry over spilt milk now. It is a very shameful thing that they try to cover up this now. On ther other hand they claimed that a PAF F-16 was shot down of which they never provided any proof.
 
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Have they able to find the remaining 5 AMMARAAm which famous SU-30 MkI dodged ? But how they were able to find the one which they displayed within few hours of operation swift retort?
 

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Have they able to find the remaining 5 AMMARAAm which famous SU-30 MkI dodged ? But how they were able to find the one which they displayed within few hours of operation swift retort?

Baaqi waalay 5 abhi milay naheen. Dhoondh rahay haen. :lol:
 

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And regardless of the fact which pilot it was (SU-30mki or M-17) please check the date of this video upload (clearly right after the Feb, 19) and words of that unfortunate widow. It also shows how the Indian government changed/erased the facts later just to hide their humiliation and embarrassment.
 

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The most honorable Indian in his most honorable state:



He is an officer who is following orders - that ceremony is him following orders as an officer. He has never said he shot down anything ever. That is integrity of a warrior, and so far i have alot of respect for him in the way he has handled himself.
 

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He is an officer who is following orders - that ceremony is him following orders as an officer. He has never said he shot down anything ever. That is integrity of a warrior, and so far i have alot of respect for him in the way he has handled himself.
Orders built upon lies, he made himself look goofy. No respect for any Indian in the army. But I understand he did what he had to do otherwise they would off him.
 

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He is an officer who is following orders - that ceremony is him following orders as an officer. He has never said he shot down anything ever. That is integrity of a warrior, and so far i have alot of respect for him in the way he has handled himself.
The honor code drilled into every cadet is, “I will not lie, cheat or steal and will not permit anyone among us who does so “. In a way he has not shown integrity and honor by allowing himself to be part of the lie. Honorable conduct in an ideal world would have had him resign rather than be a silent collaborator in this charade. But in an ideal world. Keeping publicly mum still would have required of him to resist considerable pressure.
 

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The honor code drilled into every cadet is, “I will not lie, cheat or steal and will not permit anyone among us who does so “. In a way he has not shown integrity and honor by allowing himself to be part of the lie. Honorable conduct in an ideal world would have had him resign rather than be a silent collaborator in this charade. But in an ideal world. Keeping publicly mum still would have required of him to resist considerable pressure.

He is promised of all the services perks and retirement allowances to keep mum and play with State. In return of comprising the honour code, he is being assured that no one will reach at-least for 15 years to ask him questions and tell the Truth. A marriage with benefits for both parties with convincing conditions accepted given the high risk of him alone losing everything from grace to job and perks to meet his family end needs.

Since State was at play, the already downed pilot with probability of almost zero fighting courage left, had no choice but to sail with current of lies and propaganda as such. He needed much of that life saving jacket so he had it.

In the end, no show of moral and courage by both the parties - State and it's pilot, the Abhinandan.
 

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Gentlemen, some perspective from the otherside.
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As per Mr.Kaiser Tufail
"Two pairs of fighters escorted the strike packages, while four sections of 4-ship fighters each, patrolled along the LOC. The F-16s were armed with 4xAIM-120C-5 and 2xAIM-9M missiles, while the JF-17s were armed with 2xSD-10 and 2xPL-5 missiles."


As i understand "Samer Joshi" is just discussing one single engagement at that moment in time.
 

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Does not matter how many AMRAAMs were fired... 5 or 6.... What matters is that day we shot 2 Indian jets, one being their top of line (Su30) and best part is that none of their Su30s was able to lock or fire on a single PAF jet.
That day was a clear Ariel dominance day for Pakistan.
 
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Even Indian experts in their hearts knows the truth that their Su30 was most likely was shot down as well but they don't have courage to call it in public
 

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