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27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

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Pakistani CH4s were shot down before they even delivered 不不
Spyder did not shoot down Mi-17.
Watch this video from 4:33

This system literally tells you what type of target is selected e.g helicopter, drone, aircraft etc and it even tells you model of the target e.g F-16, JF-17, Mirage-III etc. How the fk was the Spyder operator not able to know that its a Mi-17 helicopter. Regardless if the Mi-17 IFF was turn on or off the sypder still would have been able to tell its unidentified Mi-17 because pakistani Mi-17 would have shown as FOE not unidentified target. Isnt Indian Air Defence SOP not to get approval from higher ups after conformation before they engage the target? Or is it a cover up?
I did provide videos and news articles of local IOK civilians (which I cant find due to obvious reasons) saying that they saw bunch of fast moving fighter jets before the chopper went down. I 100% believe those were PAF fighters that shot down Mi-17 and to deescalate the situation both Pak and Ind government decided to make Spyder the escape goat.
 

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There's a little more to this.
If by "More" you mean he was asked not to shoot and he still did, then it is no secret. There was a reason he was advertised as a hero within hours of the incident otherwise he would have been punished for not following orders.
 

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It is said that our AD assets were not activated in AJK. We were expecting something in Punjab proper. It was an intelligence failure, if true. The more troubling prospect is the assets being active in AJK, but as the Indians claim, were jammed. A lot of ink has been spilt on the events of 27th Feb, but for our sake, I think we must look at the events of 26th Feb more closely. Why were any losses not inflicted on the opposing side that day? On 27th feb, Indians might have known that our leaders lack the will to launch a strike across the IB (they did bomb sovereign Pakistani territory, not AJK), so they concentrated their vigil in IoK. That gave them an opportunity to give chase to our strikers which resulted in the final melee. We were not able to do so either due to faulty intelligence, or our CAPs being stretched thin by foe's diversionary tactics, or our AD assets being jammed successfully.
The ISI chief Asim Munir was removed months after the confrontation. He appeared to be a no-nonsense soldier.
 

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If by "More" you mean he was asked not to shoot and he still did, then it is no secret. There was a reason he was advertised as a hero within hours of the incident otherwise he would have been punished for not following orders.
This pretty much
 

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Here is the undeniable proof of SU30 kill, they didn't pull it out of their arses

It shows the remnants of a missile carried by our F-16s. It is not undeniable proof of an SU30 kill.
The ISI chief Asim Munir was removed months after the confrontation. He appeared to be a no-nonsense soldier.
Such intel (OPFOR mil movements, readiness, etc.) is the remit of the MI.

Asim Munir was switched because he wasn't able to settle properly, especially given the ill health of somebody in his immediate family.
 

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This system literally tells you what type of target is selected e.g helicopter, drone, aircraft etc and it even tells you model of the target e.g F-16, JF-17, Mirage-III etc. How the fk was the Spyder operator not able to know that its a Mi-17 helicopter. Regardless if the Mi-17 IFF was turn on or off the sypder still would have been able to tell its unidentified Mi-17 because pakistani Mi-17 would have shown as FOE not unidentified target. Isnt Indian Air Defence SOP not to get approval from higher ups after conformation before they engage the target? Or is it a cover up?
I did provide videos and news articles of local IOK civilians (which I cant find due to obvious reasons) saying that they saw bunch of fast moving fighter jets before the chopper went down. I 100% believe those were PAF fighters that shot down Mi-17 and to deescalate the situation both Pak and Ind government decided to make Spyder the escape goat.
It is quite possible.
When I first heard that MI-17 was shot down and 7 officers killed. I thought this would really escalate things now, but soon after Pak said that indian helicopter is shot down but we are not involved in it. My first guess was that its being said only to deescalate. For, india although shooting down own heli is quite a humiliation that their forces have no communication / coordination or integration gaps but on other hand its 100 times more acceptable for local consumption then a score done by Pakistan.
 

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There was at least one PAF female pilot who participated in operation Swift Retort.

Squadron Leader Saira Amin, who made history by becoming the first female to have earned a Sword of Honor in any defense academy of Pakistan, was said to be the co-pilot of a special operations aircraft during the PAF's assault on Indian military targets.
 

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