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There is always a good time for a joke or two, like Pakistan giving 1-billion to develop A-Stan while its own people are suffering and saudis are demanding they money back. :lol:
 

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This is a good counter to Indian influence, if Pakistan can leverage economic benefits then they can potentially cut India out of the Afghan equation however it requires a sustained and true effort and that is yet to be seen.
finally someone thinking right instead of complaining about money. India will be cut out of Afghanistan when American troops leave. A ton of troops have already left.
 

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$1bn allocated to rebuild Afghanistan, says Alvi


ISLAMABAD: President Dr Arif Alvi Friday said Pakistan had allocated $1 billion for reconstruction and a prosperous future of Afghanistan. While virtually at a high-level consultation on return and reintegration of Afghan refugees held in Geneva, the president said Pakistan was ready to assist Afghanistan in its rebuilding and also help reintegration of millions of refugees into their society through skill learning.
The president said Pakistan and Afghanistan had the potential to become a 'geo-economic and geo-strategic hub' allowing goods to move from Central Asia through Afghanistan into Pakistan and towards the sea, and vice versa.
After Afghanistan, he said, Pakistan was the second most-affected country that suffered the devastation of Afghan war for four decades.
He said the benefits of peace in Afghanistan would also be benefiting Pakistan.
The president said on-ground development plans in Afghanistan were important for incorporation of Afghan refugees.
President Alvi said Pakistan, for last 40 years, had been hosting a sizeable number of Afghan refugees on its soil, and offered that it could further help Afghans in learning skills required to rebuild their country.
President Alvi expressed satisfaction that the Afghan refugees, who stayed in Pakistan for two or three generations, would be returning to their homeland with a lot of skills including entrepreneurship expertise learnt in Pakistan.
He said the people of Afghanistan had the final authority to decide about their political and economic governance.
The president commended the work done by the UNHCR for the rehabilitation of Afghan refugees including by its incumbent head Filippo Grandi and his predecessor Antonio Guterres.
He congratulated the Afghans, their government, and the Taliban for coming together and moving towards a peace process, which he said "had its own dynamism of dividends for the people of Afghanistan."
He said Pakistan played an important role in resumption of peace process in Afghanistan.
Calling it a 'very important and golden period,' he said opportunities were coming across in the shape of prospects for peace and security in Afghanistan.
He recalled that all circles in Pakistan, whether political or general masses, never opposed the hosting of the Afghan refugees.
He said, "Never has been any voice within Pakistan that the Afghan refugees should be sent back, but with dignity.
He expressed confidence that the conference would prove as a peace-building effort 'beyond the ending of war and entrenching of peace within the Afghan society.'
The consultation, on subject of 'Return and reintegration: Building a future for all Afghans' was organised by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) in the lead-up to Afghanistan Conference 2020, to be held in Geneva on Nov 23-24.
The main objective of the high-level consultation was to ensure that return and reintegration of Afghan refugees was included in the Afghan peace process as well as in Afghanistan's development plans.
The event highlighted the need for continued support to Afghan refugees and the host communities.
The high-level segment featured video statements of President of Afghanistan Dr Ashraf Ghani, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, and UN Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad.
The UNHCR head, Filippo Grandi, also addressed the event. The participants highly appreciated the hospitality and protection extended by Pakistan to Afghan refugees for the last 41 years.
They also lauded Pakistan's positive and key role in promotion of Afghan peace process.

to counter indian investments
 

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Are you a Muhajir?

@PaklovesTurkiye Karachi is never getting better. Make peace with it and think better ways how we Muhajirs can strengthen our community in Pakistan. Pinning our hopes on Karachi is useless. Let the Pashtuns, Siraikis and Sindhis deal with Karachi, they make up around 55% of the city demographics anyway. Bugtein khudi ab yeh log.

Our people will keep slipping further into poverty and slums if we keep our hopes pinned on Karachi. The Pakistani ruling elite won't do sh!t for this city.
Bro.

So many of our people died here. So many fought for us in this very same city. Blood got spilled.

Our forefathers made it home.

It is NOT AT ALL easy to do what you're saying.

I agree with your thinking mostly though.

Never been a better time than now to regroup and re organize - and have a structure like Memon and Isamailis.

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@RealNapster @ziaulislam

Dude. You have no idea how many of our people fought PPP.

Lol..Ruin Lahore? When whole Pakistan is flocking to Karachi to earn, you are asking Karachiites to move to another place? Doesn't make any sense. We don't have grudge against Lahore that we start ruining their city. There is just rivalry b/w Karachi and Lahore just like Mumbai and Delhi has. It's just natural. And it is a fact that Islamabad and Lahore are always pampered. No one can deny that.

We better cry on this forum than on streets. If we come on streets, your community, in fact whole Pakistan will get affected

As said by PM Khan - If Karachi sneezes, Pakistan gets cold.

We never voted for PPP....I repeat Urdu speaking of Karachi NEVER voted for PPP

The seats which PPP grabbed from Karachi was from Sindhi/Baloch goths of Karachi. Heck even Lyari - Baloch town showed PPP a door this time.

Can't blame all of Karachi for that.

As Karachi is mini Pakistan - there is a trash of every Pakistani community involve here from kidnapping to murder. Can't blame Urdu speaking for that.

Even beggars of Karachi are non locals :) and Karachiites can't be blamed for that.
 

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We better cry on this forum than on streets. If we come on streets, your community, in fact whole Pakistan will get affected
Please. For once do that. For once let PPP led provincial govt know you Karachities are not sheep's. We are ready for the economical impact Pakistan will have you just get yourself along hundreds of thousands like you on streets of Karachi
 

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Bro.

So many of our people died here. So many fought for us in this very same city. Blood got spilled.

Our forefathers made it home.

It is NOT AT ALL easy to do what you're saying.

I agree with your thinking mostly though.

Never been a better time than now to regroup and re organize - and have a structure like Memon and Isamailis.

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@RealNapster @ziaulislam

Dude. You have no idea how many of our people fought PPP.

Lol..Ruin Lahore? When whole Pakistan is flocking to Karachi to earn, you are asking Karachiites to move to another place? Doesn't make any sense. We don't have grudge against Lahore that we start ruining their city. There is just rivalry b/w Karachi and Lahore just like Mumbai and Delhi has. It's just natural. And it is a fact that Islamabad and Lahore are always pampered. No one can deny that.

We better cry on this forum than on streets. If we come on streets, your community, in fact whole Pakistan will get affected

As said by PM Khan - If Karachi sneezes, Pakistan gets cold.

We never voted for PPP....I repeat Urdu speaking of Karachi NEVER voted for PPP

The seats which PPP grabbed from Karachi was from Sindhi/Baloch goths of Karachi. Heck even Lyari - Baloch town showed PPP a door this time.

Can't blame all of Karachi for that.

As Karachi is mini Pakistan - there is a trash of every Pakistani community involve here from kidnapping to murder. Can't blame Urdu speaking for that.

Even beggars of Karachi are non locals :) and Karachiites can't be blamed for that.
Well we need to wake up and smell the coffee.

You can recount all that Muhajirs did (and we did alot). But Pakistan does not care. Sorry if I sound rude. In the end it's only us who are suffering.

The next step we need to decide is what we need to do. We can spread out. We can start living in other cities and venture into uncharted territories like Parsis, Ismailis, Jews and Memons do. We can set up communities in Makran, in Gilgit Baltistan, in Punjab. Or we can keep pinning our hopes to Karachi while our community keeps getting sidelined further. Pakistan is ours. We're still stuck in that 1980s MQM "billi ke dum pe pair" wali approach where we feel we are being pushed in a corner. We have to get out of it. No one is coming to save us.
 

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Bro.

So many of our people died here. So many fought for us in this very same city. Blood got spilled.

Our forefathers made it home.

It is NOT AT ALL easy to do what you're saying.

I agree with your thinking mostly though.

Never been a better time than now to regroup and re organize - and have a structure like Memon and Isamailis.

----

@RealNapster @ziaulislam

Dude. You have no idea how many of our people fought PPP.

Lol..Ruin Lahore? When whole Pakistan is flocking to Karachi to earn, you are asking Karachiites to move to another place? Doesn't make any sense. We don't have grudge against Lahore that we start ruining their city. There is just rivalry b/w Karachi and Lahore just like Mumbai and Delhi has. It's just natural. And it is a fact that Islamabad and Lahore are always pampered. No one can deny that.

We better cry on this forum than on streets. If we come on streets, your community, in fact whole Pakistan will get affected

As said by PM Khan - If Karachi sneezes, Pakistan gets cold.

We never voted for PPP....I repeat Urdu speaking of Karachi NEVER voted for PPP

The seats which PPP grabbed from Karachi was from Sindhi/Baloch goths of Karachi. Heck even Lyari - Baloch town showed PPP a door this time.

Can't blame all of Karachi for that.

As Karachi is mini Pakistan - there is a trash of every Pakistani community involve here from kidnapping to murder. Can't blame Urdu speaking for that.

Even beggars of Karachi are non locals :) and Karachiites can't be blamed for that.
Karachi is going to get huge pacakage..
But to expct that the spending will be done within few month..not realistic ..

I doubt KCR/K IV will be completed by 2023..its not realistic
Best case senrio next december the work start and runs through 2025-26 if federal govt doesnt chnge
 

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Karachi is going to get huge pacakage..
But to expct that the spending will be done within few month..not realistic ..

I doubt KCR/K IV will be completed by 2023..its not realistic
Best case senrio next december the work start and runs through 2025-26 if federal govt doesnt chnge
You sound like a patronising fool. We have lived in this city for generations. Nothing is happening it's a smokescreen. But I'm sure you know more about it than us.
 

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Exactly even today syed ghani etc are elected form Karachi

First do some poltical motivation and get the right people elected..

Karachites need to mobilize and get all karachi seats to a party that will spend for them..

For example for first time karachi will see 400-500b spent next 3 yrs but karachi people will still vote for PPPP and then cry about federal govt not doing anything

Who gave PPPP the power to make 18th amendment ..it was karachi in 2008..


Money if at all spent will help built trade for pakistan and will benefit mostly KPK and port cities of KARACHI & GAWADAR
When the largest port city is chronically unstable, there is little chance of trade increment.

Its not fair to blame karachi people all the time. A good chunk of Punjab will still vote for N league.
 

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