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Discussion in 'Iranian Defence Forum' started by T-72B, Jun 10, 2019.
Let's compare both of this AD system
One another from it's statistics, combat capability, etc
Let's compare both statistics and capability both of these AD system
Hard to tell what the new Iranian system can do or not do
How can it protect itself against u.s cyber and electric attack and may be jammed by u.s fighter jets
I'd say Iran's military should be very confident about the specs it revealed and they also must think that the specs are so top notch that they would add another big risk to US military calculations.
Otherwise why would they give so much details about performance and range? Normally these things are secret.
Lol what's there to Compare?
Iranian Systems are more propaganda than Actual up to date Systems anyways
Go look up the Patriot missile's success rate form the 1st Gulf war if you want to see some real propaganda!
And also you should know that Iran as a Country is totally propaganda, there's no such country called Iran or Persia, Cyrus the Great was actually an Hollywood actor and the whole Iran as a country is actually is a stage by Hollywood, Iran Supreme leader is also a Hollywood actor and also those Iranians in this forum actually actors to mate!!!1111
(For Iranians this is a sarcasm and pls dont banned because of this)
I wouldn't compare those two . if you used PAC-2 it was a better comparison as the modification in PAC-3 resulted in lesser chance in countering aircraft and higher chance in intercepting balistic missile while 15th khordad is designed for aircraft and cruise missile and nobody talked about ballistic missiles.
we shall but you can compare PAC_2 with Sayyad 2A and Sayyad 3C, if you want to compare PAC_3 anti_missile system then you can compare it only with Sayyad 4 so which one do you want to do?
I knew , You believe comparing 15th khordad with PAC-3 is wrong but because PAC even PAC-1 eat 15th Khordad alive not because they have different mission..
PAC is a matured system with billions spent on its development and improvements. Iran has just stepped into this arena it will take them at least another decade to build a reliable system capable of intercepting with high success rate. Needless to say Iran is marching toward the right direction of a indigenously developed defense systems but this is just a start.
PAC_2 vs 15th Khordad
name of the missiles: MM-104D (PAC-2/GEM) vs Sayyad 3C
MM-104D (PAC-2/GEM): Long-range, all-altitude, all-weather air defence system, four Patriot missiles, Lenght missile 5.8 m, weight missile 900 kg, warhead weight 91 kg, range against fighter jets and drones 160 km, range against ballistic missiles 20 km, altitude against fighter jets and drones 24 km, altitude against ballistic missiles 12 km, PAC-2/PAC-3 Mach 4.1, Guidance system MM-104D enjoies track-via-missile (TVM) guidance subsystems and enhanced fuzing or proximity fuse.
Radar: AN/MPQ-53 or -65 Radar Set, the AN/MSQ-104 Engagement Control Station (ECS), the OE-349 Antenna Mast Group (AMG), and the EPP-III Electric Power Plant, range 180 km, tracking and engaging 8 targets simultaneously.
15th Khordad SAM
Sayyad 3C: Long-range, all-altitude, all-weather air defence system, four Sayyad 3C missiles, Lenght missile 5.9 m, weight missile 1030 kg, warhead weight 150 kg, range against fighter jets and drones 120 km, range against ballistic missiles 7_75 km, altitude against fighter jets and drones 27 km, altitude against ballistic missiles is unknown, Sayyad 3C speed is Mach 5_6, for guidance system Sayyad 3C enjoies track-via-missile (TVM) guidance subsystems and proximity fuse, missile it self has SARH guidance active radar in case the mine radar loses the target missile will start searching for a target for it self and infrared seeker.
Radar: Najm 804 AESA radar/Control Station , range 150 km against fighter jets and drones and helicopters and bombers and 85 km range against ballistic missiles and stealth cruise missiles and stealth fighter jets and stealth bombers, tracking and engaging 6 targets simultaneously.
PLZ tell me if i had a mistake any were.
Does 15th Khordad and other Sayyad,Talaash AD system really have any capabilities against Ballistic missile?