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    Treason: Zardari asked me to roll back JF 17, Retired Air Marshall Shahid Latif.

    Ballot shows their incompetence. This is/why Zardari is not ever likely to come to power again. Waja ghair Shareef is gone as well. People may forgive once but they do not forget unless they are under the clasp of the Waderas of Sindh and even there their is the hope of getting job in some govtt...
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    Lockheed Receives Mission Planning Contract for Potential F-16 Sales to India, Pakistan, 21 Other Nations

    The US may have known and I agree that it knew what was going on. I would not even be surprised if the Dhotis bleeted to the US about their punitive strike and got a tacit approval. The idea(and this remains my view point) was to just lob a couple of missiles into Pak territory and claim a moral...
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    Treason: Zardari asked me to roll back JF 17, Retired Air Marshall Shahid Latif.

    And convert these snakes into saints with people laying wreaths over their graves? One scoundrel Bhutto put to death by the army is a good enough lesson. What Iam proposing can only come from a revolution. Nothing else can do it. The army has always intervened at critical times mainly to save...
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    Lockheed Receives Mission Planning Contract for Potential F-16 Sales to India, Pakistan, 21 Other Nations

    I would present a counter argument to your post. I would say the US did not say anything for 2 reasons. At all times on 27/02 the 16s were within Pak air space and therefore technically on defensive duties. In defence anh armament can be used by the procuring nation. Sevondly the US got the bezt...
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    PAF Celebrating Mirage Golden Jubilee

    The MRFs books are full apparently till 2025 overhauling these planes. There has been a stated need expressed by PAF higher ups of retaining M3/5s till mid to late 20s. I guess if we started a replacement programme now with a contract negotiated in 18 months, latency of 3 years while platforms...
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    Treason: Zardari asked me to roll back JF 17, Retired Air Marshall Shahid Latif.

    Yaara. The problem you guys are not inderstanding is that Ghaddari/wajja ghair Shareef are just symptoms of a society where people grow up so they can do CSP and get into Police/Customs so "oupar ki Aamdani lag jaey". In order to get rid of this national haram khori scenario, you firstly need a...
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    Treason: Zardari asked me to roll back JF 17, Retired Air Marshall Shahid Latif.

    Bhai Is hammam main sub nangay hain. SL may go on and berrate Zardari but the fact remains there is corruption galore in the armed forces as well. SL's name has also been dragged in the mud as he has a flat in Dubai(I am not implying that he has dipped his fingers in the pie). Zardari and Ganja...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Interesting thought. I think it is fair to say there are still chances. Firstly US is still entangled/positioned in Afghanistan. In order to placate the Taliban it still needs Pakistan to intercede(irrespective of the debate whether Pak has influence over the Talibans or not). This is a...
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    Pakistan will get New Air Defence system within this Year - CAS on ARY News .

    Can anyone summarize what the Air chief ACTUALLY said. The news third party is useless due to understanding of defence matters by our news gurus. A
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    New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

    They can find A C 5 in a pile of dung called India but they cannot locate a big F16. Even if it crash landed in Pakistan they should have enough assetts to take a couple of Photographs and propagate it via their press. So in short it is harder to find an F16 than a 120C5:yahoo::woot::astagh:
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    JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

    Hi @ARMalik. If your theory is true then why has there been such a fuss over heating issues with AESA and instituting of a liquid cooling system? Please understand I am merely asking to understand rather than question. Regards "Its performance and capability with the AESA radar". Did anyone...
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    New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

    Why? What is the urgent need that we cannot wait 5 years. A
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    JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

    Mr @Incog_nito . Please consider the finances and needs of your country before making such statements. If you have ascertained a need justify it. Why do we need 50 each of M346 and L15s when we are using FT7 and JFTBs for conversion? Why is there a need for a second fighter? How do you justify...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Its that dirty F word. Finances baby. I think the US has realized that the F35 will have to be used selectively. They want to save up on the 22 and 35s flight hours mainly due to high cost of running them so want to rely on something else. Whether it is a more advanced F16 or a single engined...
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    New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

    My question really is how practical is it to manufacture engines in Pakistan. Look at the setup cost and also our needs . I reckon 25 to 30 engines per year. Frankly the utility vs the cost is not in favour of an engine manufacturing setup. Believe me if China enters into a bargain with Ukraine...
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    New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

    The real bug bear is the E word. Engines for future fighters remain an enigma unless the Turks come up with a joint venture produce which is good. A
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    New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

    I agree with your assessment from the Indian perspective. They will not listen to a pacifist view point and become bolder if you show them a weakness. However I will contend an alternative point of view for you to consider. Modern day wars are fought on many fronts and one of them is the...
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    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    I cant recall Imran khan crying "agar Rafale hota to nateeja kuch aur hota". Whose words were the ones I quoted? Why were you crying like a little boy if the mighty yemmmmmm kayyyyyy yaiiiiie had not taken a tumble. But you are free to believe whatever you want. Please continue to do so. A
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    JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

    As we have discussed before there are variable accounts of what is happening with the Block 2s. Previously if I remember correctly the problem with Air cooled radars is deterioration in function due to lack of cooling. The way out was to look at a GAN based AESA where heat output is reduced...
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    JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

    Yes this is understood but if it is an air cooled Radar will it be installed cross field on the older planes or just on the new builds. Secondly what will the PAF assemble,ie air cooled or liquid cooled Radars? Or are developments a foot which will make this debate redundent. A

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