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Would America Risk a Nuclear War with China over Taiwan?
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Hugh White
May 5, 2015

After a decade of relative harmony, tensions between Beijing and Taipei are rising again. As Taiwan's leaders and voters face big choices about their future relations with China, America must think carefully about its commitments to Taiwan.

Would America be willing go to war with China to prevent Taiwan being forcibly united with the mainland? J. Michael Cole, responding in The National Interest to a recent op-ed of mine in Singapore's Straits Times, expresses a widely held assumption that it would, and should.

many people it seems self-evident that America would honor the commitments enshrined in the Taiwan Relations Act. But the TRA was passed in 1979, when China's GDP was 1/20th the size of America's, its place in the global economy was miniscule, its navy and air force were negligible, and its prospects for progress depended completely on America's goodwill.

So back then a US-China conflict carried much bigger economic and military risks for China than for America. That made the TRA's commitments both highly credible and very unlikely to be tested. Washington could safely assume that Beijing would back off to avoid a conflict in which China had so much more to lose than America.

Things are different today.

China's economy is now so big and so central to global trade and capital flows that the consequences of any disruption would be just as serious for America as for China. Militarily, America can no longer expect a swift and certain victory in a war over Taiwan. China's anti-access/area-denial capabilities would preclude direct US intervention unless those capabilities had first been degraded by a sustained and wide-ranging strike campaign against Chinese bases and forces.

China would very likely respond to such a campaign with attacks on US and allied bases throughout Asia. The US has no evident means to cap the resulting escalation spiral, and no one could be sure it would stop below the nuclear threshold. The possibility of nuclear attacks on US cities would have to be considered.

These new realities of power mean that today a US-China conflict would impose equal risks and costs on both sides. And where costs and risks are equal, the advantage lies with those who have more at stake, and hence greater resolve. China's leaders today seem to think they hold this advantage, and they are probably right. It is therefore a big mistake to keep assuming, as many people seem to do, that China would be sure to back off before a crisis over Taiwan became a conflict.

US leaders must therefore ask what happens if Beijing does not back down as a crisis escalates. At what point would they back down instead? What would be the damage to US global leadership if Washington brought on a confrontation with China and then blinked first? What could happen if Washington didn't blink first? Is Taiwan's status quo worth a global economic collapse? It is worth a real risk of nuclear war with China?

These are the questions America's leaders would have to confront in considering military action to defend Taiwan, and their answer would very likely be that the status of Taiwan is not worth risking nuclear war or economic collapse over. And that means American leaders and policy analysts must confront these questions now, as they decide whether to maintain the old commitments to defend Taiwan. The promises that America was willing and able to keep in 1979 might not be ones it is willing or able to keep now.

What about America's allies and friends in Asia? Wouldn't they help America defend Taiwan, if only because they are so worried themselves about China? Many Americans seem to assume they would. But even Australia, America's most reliable ally in Asia, is uncertain about this. And if Australia is uncertain, it is pure wishful thinking to expect the likes of India, Singapore, Vietnam or even the Philippines to offer anything more than mild diplomatic support to America over Taiwan.

The exception is Japan, which under Shinzo Abe might be expected to join the fight, especially after last week's visit to Washington. But does Mr. Abe really speak for Japan? Will future Japanese leaders take the same view? And even if they did, how exactly would that help America? How would Japan's support change the answers to the hard questions posed above, and increase the chances that America would indeed come to Taiwan's aid?

So no one should lightly assert that America or its allies would help defend Taiwan from China. But should they? This is a big subject. Suffice to say here that the question is not answered simply by using the word “appeasement” to invoke the memory of Munich.

There are hard questions to be answered about how far we should be willing to go to accommodate (or, if you prefer, to appease) China's ambitions for a bigger regional leadership role as its power grows. Any substantial accommodation would mean a shift away from the US-led order of recent decades, which would be risky and unsettling. It seems much easier to evade these questions by refusing to contemplate any accommodation at all. But that would carry high costs.

Those who assume that those costs must be worth paying might not have thought carefully enough about just how high the price could go. And those who assume that it will be impossible to accommodate China because it proved impossible to appease Hitler perhaps assume that there are no material differences between the situations in Europe in 1938 and in Asia now, or between Nazi Germany and today's China. They perhaps also assume that there are no alternatives to the old US-led order in Asia except Chinese hegemony. The magnitude of the issues at stake – including for the people of Taiwan – suggest that these assumptions need more careful scrutiny.

Would America Risk a Nuclear War with China over Taiwan? | The National Interest Blog

Probably if PRC attack ROC the US will come to save Taiwan. China wouldn't last too long against the US & Nato allies.
 
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Taiwan government mention they eventually reunite with China, why will China risk of going to war with Taiwan over reunification?
 
Taiwan government mention they eventually reunite with China, why will China risk of going to war with Taiwan over reunification?

If they don't wanna submit themselves to CPC's rule, then PLA can easily crush them like a tiny cockroach.

No mercy will be shown to the outcast traitors.
 
US will hate Taiwan reunite with China because of the naval strategic important of China navy station in Taiwan to challenge both US and Japan in east China sea.
 
WOW! What a coincidence, i posed the same question with respect to "American's nuclear umbrella for Japan", a few days back. 'Extended deterrence' is not as simple as it's casually put to win over friends, while hoping to intimidate common enemies. In all this, the factor which is largely left out of equation, is the 'will of the state (In this case it's USA) to bear unacceptable damages on itself too'. Irrespective of how technologically ahead, USA may be vis-a-vis China, even an obsolete atomic bomb can wreak havoc. Viewing it from a realist angle, this "Extended deterrence" seems nothing, but a mere lip service.
 
It is like a school bully vs. a bullied kid at school with nothing to lose, fighting over the project that the bully stole from the bullied.

All the bully is doing by stealing the homework is asserting he is the bully and superior.
The bullied kids needs the homework to pass the class. All he wants is make it through school and get good grades.

So in a fight over this homework, the bullied kid is going to go all out to get his homework back. The bully, on the other hand, doesn't need to do anything. All he needs to do is hand the homework back and the problem is resolved. There is a clear difference in resolve.
 
Wrong question.

Right question is: Would America use Taiwan as excuse to launch a first strike against China?.

USA oil market manipulation is running out, they need war right now :lol:.

1. The US has no chance to defeat China in its own home turf.

2. There is zero percent of chance that the US will risk a nuclear war over Taiwan.

1. USA doesnt need to "defeat China", also USA didnt need "defeat Iraq" or "defeat Libia". USA only needs destroy industry and military, several nukes and USA win, eurasia lost.

2. There is 100% of chance that the US will need to do the point no. 1 in the future.

Be ready :china:
 
1. USA doesnt need to "defeat China", also USA didnt need "defeat Iraq" or "defeat Libia". USA only needs destroy industry and military, several nukes and USA win, eurasia lost.

2. There is 100% of chance that the US will need to do the point no. 1 in the future.

Be ready :china:

The problem is that China is no Iraq or Libya, the nuclear exchange will leave no winner in this world.
 
Wait! The muricans are waiting for Halloween to strike.
 
Wrong question.

Right question is: Would America use Taiwan as excuse to launch a first strike against China?.

USA oil market manipulation is running out, they need war right now :lol:.



1. USA doesnt need to "defeat China", also USA didnt need "defeat Iraq" or "defeat Libia". USA only needs destroy industry and military, several nukes and USA win, eurasia lost.

2. There is 100% of chance that the US will need to do the point no. 1 in the future.

Be ready

That will be the day your race faces nuclear extermination :china:
 
Would America Risk a Nuclear War with China over Taiwan? | The National Interest Blog

Those who assume that those costs must be worth paying might not have thought carefully enough about just how high the price could go.
Actually...They have gave it a lot of thought.

And those who assume that it will be impossible to accommodate China because it proved impossible to appease Hitler perhaps assume that there are no material differences between the situations in Europe in 1938 and in Asia now, or between Nazi Germany and today's China.
Or that they see enough parallels between then and now that they felt safe enough to make that assumption. One of those parallels is how Germany, under Hitler, felt about the injustices of the past and how China today feels about that 'century of humiliation'.

They perhaps also assume that there are no alternatives to the old US-led order in Asia except Chinese hegemony.
They did not have to assume. China made it clear enough that Chinese hegemony is Asia is the final goal.

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The problem is perception -- that China does not have enough of a 'positive' image as a power that must be 'reckoned with'. Yes, China's military is formidable and to reckon with China is to face China politically, economically, and militarily. But perception of those factors is independent of of the mechanics of how to face them, and currently and at least for the next decade, that perception is and will be negative.

It is not as easy to simply invade Taiwan after aerial bombardment as the Chinese section on this forum so naively posited. Back in WW II, merely 30 km of water separate England from continental Europe at the Strait of Dover. Germany had overwhelming control of the English Channel, from the entire coast of France all the way north to Belgium, and yet, never mind the arrogance of Hitler himself, no one sane on Hitler's staff felt that Germany could physically invade England without suffering casualties in terms of manpower and resources that it would negatively affect the war's effort elsewhere.

One hundred and sixty kilometers of water is a long way to go from mainland China to Taiwan. If being generous and say 20 kts or 40 k/hr, that would mean PLAN amphibious landing ships are vulnerable for at least 3 hrs on that journey, and 3hrs is generous considering it is unlikely that the route will be direct from two closest points between mainland China and Taiwan. So realistically and still being generous -- 4 hrs of vulnerability.

As expected, air power will be the dominant player in every aspect of the invasion. China could take dominant airspace control of Taiwan the way the Nazi Luftwaffe did with England's airspace, but China do not have the numerical advantage over Taiwan the way Germany had over England to make that control persistent. Taiwan's air bases are on the coast around the island and Taiwanese air power are vulnerable only to the naive. The RoCAF is proficient enough at using highways for air operations and the PLA do not have enough missiles to take them all out, by numbers and accuracy.

That mean even though the underdog, the RoCAF will be the equivalent of the RAF against the Luftwaffe to the point that it will give pause to the PLA for any amphibious invasion of Taiwan. As for the PLAN amphibious landing ships, the Taiwanese do not have to take them all out, just enough of them to demoralize the remaining force, and if the PLAAF do not have absolute airspace control over Taiwan, whatever remaining amphibious force that survived the journey and make it to Taiwan will be slaughtered on the beaches.

Hugh White may not have a high opinion of those who made assumptions about the US but he made the same mistake in assuming that China is militarily powerful to make escalation unpalatable to the US. So the question is not so much if the US is willing to go mano-a-mano with China all the way to the nuclear threshold and see who blinks first, but whether the PLA leadership have the same wisdom as Hitler's staff did in trying to plan an invasion of England.

The question is also not so much if the PLA can sustain its buildup. Yes, it can and probably will. But equally important is whether Taiwanese defenses will continue to build, not to achieve parity, but to make any PLAN amphibious operations costly enough no matter how much the PLA can build itself up. The PLA talks about area denial with focus on the US. The Taiwanese can also talk about area denial with focus on China.
 
Would they risk a nuclear war?

Not as long as they know they will have a good chance of being punished with nuclear strike on their own soil.

Problem solved.

Taiwan's unification, by the way, is going on as we speak.
 
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