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Trainer and missile practice of the VPAF

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(This design reminds me of F-4 Phantom :v)
 
The director of Israel military complex and President coming to Vietnam then they must be working on some deal. Vietnam has benefited tremendously by working with Israel. Look no further than Vietnam's agriculture sector; Israel has provided big help to Vietnam in that regard. Both china and india also benefit tremendously by working with Israel. Vietnam is taking a good step by establishing a good relationship with this jewish state.
Yes that is true. The Jews are smart people. They are chosen people, aren't they? I think too, seeking a closer economic and military ties with Israel is the way to go. Israeli made EXTRA land attack missile system is a good start, we need more of this system. More powerful more range more accurate missiles to increase our offensive capability. This year looks promising.

Vietnam do not bomb people, especially civilians unprovoked. Cosmetic commonality does not equate to moral likeness. The real Jews are against the terrorist state of Isreal. Isreal is responsible, through their cia equivalent mossad, for the assassination of some of the greatest minds of this century. Vietnam should distant itself from the abomination that is Isreal.
Nobody is saint. But you should remember how the people of Israel fight for their survival since thousands of years. They deserve respect.
 
Kerry Expects No Changes in US-Vietnam Relations Under Trump
Last Updated: January 13, 2017 9:50 AM
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Secretary of State John Kerry, left, shakes hands with Secretary of the Ho Chi Minh City Party Committee Dinh La Thang before their meeting, Jan. 13, 2017, in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.


U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told an audience at Vietnam’s Ho Chi Minh University Friday that the upcoming change in administrations will not affect the relationship shared between the two countries. Kerry said the two countries share a set of values that cannot be altered by changing leadership.

“Our friendship doesn't depend on individuals or personalities, one president or the other, one party or the other. Our friendship is rooted in interests that we share, and in the things that we agree upon about the future," he said.

Kerry did note President-elect Donald Trump’s opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership could sink the deal when he takes office next week, but added that technology, not trade agreements, is what leads to job loss.

“Now, when machines do more, productivity generally goes up, and the demand for labor begins to shift to other places, other industries. That's one of the reasons why if you engage in protectionist policy, it isn't going to work," he said.


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Students and others listen as Secretary of State John Kerry speaks at Ho Chi Minh University of Technology and Education, Jan. 13, 2017 in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.


On South China Sea

Kerry also addressed recent tensions in the South China Sea, pointing out that the U.S. does not take a position on different countries' claims to the territory, but asks that all those involved not engage in “provocative acts.”

“We believe in all the countries in the region, whether big or small, and that they should all refrain from provocative acts that add to tensions or might lead to a greater militarization of the area," he said.

Currently, six countries, including China and Vietnam, claim at least some part of the sea as their own. On Saturday, Kerry is scheduled to visit the Mekong Delta where he fought during the Vietnam War. After Vietnam, Kerry travels to Paris for a conference on Middle East peace and to London to meet with British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson. On the final leg of his last trip as secretary of state, Kerry will attend the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
 
China won't 'sit with arms crossed' while India considers arms sales to Vietnam
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Signaling closer ties between the two nations, India and Vietnam are discussing the sale of the Akash missile system to the Southeast Asian nation. And China is officially not happy about it.

The fast-evolving relationship between Vietnam and India drew Beijing’s ire this week via the government mouthpiece Global Times, which described the Indian arms sale as “stirring up trouble”, and said China would “hardly sit with its arms crossed”.

In the past, China has barely sniffed at the notion that the relationship between India and Vietnam is any real threat.

Vietnam and India share a friendly history and have been engaged in trade and other forms of cooperation for a decade. But the missile sale, which may be designed to guard against an aggressive China defence, signals just how quickly it is becoming one of the region’s stronger partnerships.

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Vietnam's Minister of Defense Phung Quang Thanh (C) salutes during a joint funeral for the 18 military servicemen who died in a helicopter crash, in Hanoi July 11, 2014.Nguyen Huy Kham/Reuters

Vietnam’s rationale is simple, according to Murray Hiebert, deputy director of the Southeast Asia programme at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

“Vietnam knows it can never stand up to China, but it figures it can inflict more damage on China if it bolsters its weapons hardware a bit more. And India, with its long-time strong relations with Vietnam, is a very willing partner,” he told This Week in Asia.

The Akash surface-to-air missile has a 25km range capable of targeting airborne vehicles – from drones to helicopters. It is one of a number of weapons India is planning to sell to Vietnam.

Both India and Vietnam share strategic concerns over China and wish to see a resolution to South China Sea sovereignty disputes. India has oil exploration operations in Vietnam-claimed areas of the sea. The two countries also have joint-exploration plans.

Professor Rajaram Panda, the Indian Council for Cultural Relations chair on Indian studies at Reitaku University in Japan, said: “It is obvious that both see China as the common perceived threat. China’s increasing belligerence and assertiveness on regional issues is also driving smaller states to reach an understanding on how to cope with China’s rise. China’s claim that its rise is peaceful is disputed because of its actions.”

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Indian Navy sailors watch as military vehicle parades past during India's Republic Day parade in New Delhi January 26, 2015. REUTERS/Jim Bourg

Vietnam and India signed a strategic partnership in 2007 which included a Memorandum of Understanding on defence cooperation. In September, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited Vietnam, and both nations elevated their ties to a comprehensive strategic partnership, placing India into Vietnam’s diplomatic top tier alongside Russia and China.

There is a strong defence component in this new partnership, which builds on previous efforts. The Joint Vision Statement issued at the time covered not just education, but space exploration, including satellites over the South China Sea, and sea patrols. A US$500 million (HK$3.8 billion) line of defence credit was another component, up from US$100 million in 2014.

India has committed to help train Vietnamese fighter pilots on Russian-made Sukhoi Su-30 jets and submariners on Russian Kilo-class vessels, which both countries operate. In addition to the Akash missile system, India is also considering the sale of a new generation of the BrahMos short-range missile system, which is being co-developed by an India-Russia joint venture and requires the partnering nation’s approval, and Varunastra torpedoes for use on the Kilo-class subs.

During a visit from Vietnam’s then-Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung in 2014, Modi said: “our defence cooperation with Vietnam is among our most important ones”.

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Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping delivers a speech during a joint media briefing with Romania's President Traian Basescu (unseen) at Cotroceni presidential palace in Bucharest October 19, 2009. REUTERS/Bogdan Cristel

Hiebert said the countries’ “close ties... date back to the old days of Ho Chi Minh and Nehru”, and when India was the only non-Soviet country to recognise Vietnam’s regime in Cambodia. Now, both history and “India’s willingness to become a comprehensive strategic partner” were key factors.

The supersonic Akash is an almost entirely Indian designed and built weapon – 96 per cent, according to a Times of India report. It was developed by Bharat Dynamics Limited, a 47-year-old company under the control of India’s Ministry of Defence.

But India has not only been ramping up its foreign ties – it has also been increasing its weapons exports. The country has long been a top importer, but its new ambition is to export – targeting US$2 billion in revenue in coming years.

In July, energy and securities analyst Saurav Jha said: “Overall, India is likely to focus on a few key defence partners with which it has maximum strategic congruence for building up its position in the global defence market.”

Vietnam is certainly that, both strategically important and a keen arms customer. It was the world’s eighth largest weapons importer from 2011-2015, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. And then in May last year, US President Barrack Obama lifted a decades-old arms embargo on the Southeast Asian nation.

China has undoubtedly played a role in driving India and Vietnam closer together in recent years. But China is also Vietnam’s highest-level partner. In fact, Vietnam’s General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong this week met with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing.

China’s angry reaction this time is possibly understandable. While an increase in ties, oil exploration or even satellites was irritating, none posed the immediate threat of a missile. And it seems the Global Times, often described as a mouthpiece for China’s more hawkish elements, has changed its view accordingly. Last February, the paper wrote: “Indo-Vietnamese relations are never a major concern for China.” But with a missile, they now are.
 
So basically this is a trial of indigenous 30mm naval ammunition for AK-630M CIWS, not a test for land-based AK-630M.

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The ammo is designated "ĐPST-30" which stands for "Đạn pháo siêu tốc - 30mm" (literally "CIWS ammunition - 30mm caliber")
 
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The Chinese offered no non-aggression-treaty like Hitler-Stalin-pact, nor billions of dollar economic package like they offered to the Philippines. Besides typical empty phrases, nothing is worth to mention here. A big zero. A big disappointment. the 4-day high level visit to China is good for some propaganda articles nothing else. Not a waste of time but close to it. No wonder the former Vietnamese prime minister Nguyen never set a foot on China during his 10 year term. That is not a good sign. Or do I miss something? I predict the tension will continue to increase. Both sides will do what both sides want to do. Let's hope the visit of Shinzo Abe brings more fruitful outcomes.
 
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Japan to supply 6 new patrol boats to Vietnam
By Mai Nguyen and My Pham
https://www.yahoo.com/news/japan-supply-patrol-boats-vietnam-104952296.html

HANOI (Reuters) - Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Monday promised Vietnam six new patrol boats during a visit to the Southeast Asian country locked in a dispute with China over the busy South China Sea waterway.

Abe's stop in Vietnam completes a tour through an arc of a region where Japan stakes a leadership claim in the face of China's growing dominance and uncertainty over what policy change Donald Trump will bring as U.S. president.

"We will strongly support Vietnam's enhancing its maritime law enforcement capability," Abe said, while emphasizing that the dispute over the South China Sea should be settled through talks and in accordance with international law.

China claims almost all the South China Sea, through which about $5 trillion worth of sea-borne trade passes every year. Vietnam and four other countries also have claims in the sea, believed to have rich deposits of oil and gas.

Tokyo has no territorial claims there, but worries about China's growing military reach into the sea lanes. Japan has a separate dispute with China over a cluster of tiny islets in the East China Sea.

In September, Japan had said it was ready to provide new patrol boats to Vietnam after earlier supplying six old vessels.

Maritime security and trade have been key themes during Abe's other stops - in Indonesia, the Philippines and Australia.

Given the readiness of the Philippines under President Rodrigo Duterte to move closer to the Chinese and further from its traditional U.S. ally, Vietnam is one of fewer regional states showing potential readiness to confront China.

Uncertainty over U.S. policy in Asia was amplified last week by comments from Secretary of State nominee Rex Tillerson that China must stop building islands in the South China Sea and that its access to those islands must not be allowed.

Despite their differences, Vietnam also maintains a strong diplomatic track with China. China and Vietnam said at the weekend they had agreed to manage their maritime differences and preserve peace and stability.

Both Japan and Vietnam have also been strong supporters of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free-trade pact which looks to have stalled in the face of Trump's pledge to withdraw the United States.

In Hanoi, Abe stressed the importance of the TPP and other free trade agreements, but gave no further details.

The delegation signed a number of business agreements, including energy and textile projects and a project to help with the impact of climate change. Japan is Vietnam's biggest foreign investor after South Korea.

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Phuc said Abe has committed to give Vietnam more development assistance amounting to 123 billion yen ($1.05 billion) in the fiscal year of 2016 for maritime security, responding to climate change and water treatment.

It's not clear whether the new loans will cover the purchase of new patrol vessels.

The two leaders also pledged to deepen their two countries' strategic partnership.

Japan is one of Vietnam's top investors and trading partners and is the communist country's single largest bilateral donor.
 
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it is a good start Mr Abe. I hope he not only opens the wallet but offers transfer in key technologies :D
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JANUARY 13, 2017 6:20 PM

Exxon deal with Vietnam adds to Tillerson’s tangles with China
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BY STUART LEAVENWORTH
WASHINGTON

Rex Tillerson, the former Exxon Mobil CEO tapped to be the Trump administration’s secretary of state, created an international stir this week when he told a Senate confirmation hearing that the United States should prevent the Chinese military from accessing artificial islands Beijing has constructed in the South China Sea.

But it’s not the first time he’s riled China. Under his leadership, Exxon has teamed up with Vietnam, China’s enemy to the south, to develop natural gas projects in waters claimed by both Hanoi and Beijing. On Friday, Exxon signed one of those deals with Vietnam. Ironically, it was Secretary of State John Kerry who made the announcement.

“Our countries have worked hard to put the past into the past and to define a different future,” Kerry said at meeting in Hanoi with Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc. “We are now cooperating on security issues . . . and just today a $5 million agreement was signed with Exxon to explore and develop gas and fuel possibilities.”

The agreement allows Vietnam and Exxon to go forward with “Blue Whale,” Vietnam’s largest natural gas and oil project and one that would be built in disputed waters. The project is expected to fuel four power plants in Vietnam when it is completed by 2023.

China has not sat by as Vietnam has exercised its energy rights off its coast. In 2014, China placed an exploratory rig near Vietnam, setting off skirmishes between fishing boats and the Chinese coast guard.

YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEND CHINA A CLEAR SIGNAL THAT, FIRST, THE ISLAND-BUILDING STOPS, AND SECOND, YOUR ACCESS TO THOSE ISLANDS IS ALSO NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED
Rex Tillerson, President-elect Trump’s nominee to be Secretary of State

If Tillerson were to be confirmed as the top U.S. diplomat, and if China responded strongly to the Blue Whale project, he would be in the akward position of either involving himself in an Exxon project he helped developed, or staying on the sides of a budding crisis in the South China Sea.

During his confirmation hearing, Tillerson was anything but guarded in his comments about China, which has been dredging sand onto barely submerged reefs in the region and developing airfields and deep harbors on some. Beijing asserts that most of the South China Sea is its historic territory, a claim rejected by an international tribunal last year.

Under questioning from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Tillerson said that China’s actions in the South China Sea were “extremely worrisome” and comparable to Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

“You’re going to have to send China a clear signal that, first, the island-building stops, and second, your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed,” said Tillerson.

Chinese state media reacted strongly to his statements, including criticism that China hasn’t been a reliable partner in pressuring North Korea.

“Such remarks are not worth taking seriously because they are a mish-mash of naivety, shortsightedness, worn-out prejudices, and unrealistic political fantasies. Should he act on them in the real world, it would be disastrous,” said an opinion column in the China Daily on Friday.

U.S.-China relations were testy throughout much of the Obama administration, but they are likely to become even tenser under Trump. On the campaign trail, Trump has accused China of “raping” the United States and has threatened to slap Chinese goods with a 35 percent tariff if Beijing doesn’t change its ways.

So far, Chinese officials have been less bellicose than state media in responding to Trump. At a regular briefing in Beijing on Thursday, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Lu Kang tried to play down tensions.

“If you take a look at (Chinese) President Xi Jinping’s call with Donald Trump after he won the election, you can see that the two countries do respect each other, and we agree with him that we should develop our relations based on mutual respect,” Lu said, according to a dispatch from the Associated Press.

Stuart Leavenworth: @sleavenworth


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article126490524.html#storylink=cpy
 
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the military-run Telecom company VietTel seems having some money left in the pocket. Acquiring additional attacking submarines may have been postponed. it wants to invest $2b in Myanmar after the government there grants a telecom 3G license for 15-year (and can be renewed for an additional 10 years). one of VietTel´s partner in Myanmar is military-run Myanmar National Telecom. What a coincidence. Until now VietTel has invested $2.4 billion in overseas markets, making a gross revenue of $11.3 billion in 2016.

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http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Viettel-to-make-2bn-mobile-investment-in-Myanmar
 
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What happened to Vietnam being the expert in dealing with mighty powers? I thought Vietnam has plenty of experiences in that regard. Not only China but even the US and Japan treat Vietnam as a disposable chess piece. :lol:
Guess the begging wasn't that convincing so China didn't bother to throw even a bone at VN. So when is US and JP gonna shower VN with high tech weaponry (for free) containing China? :rofl:
Huh? :what::what:
 
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What happened to Vietnam being the expert in dealing with mighty powers? I thought Vietnam has plenty of experiences in that regard. Not only China but even the US and Japan treat Vietnam as a disposable chess piece. :lol:
Guess the begging wasn't that convincing so China didn't bother to throw even a bone at VN. So when is US and JP gonna shower VN with high tech weaponry (for free) containing China? :rofl:
hi terranMarine, no matter how you perceive Vietnam, there is simply NO need to leave a message with such bad tone. It is fine to do an open debate, but debate doesn't mean humiliation, it could be polite and graceful as well.
 
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What happened to Vietnam being the expert in dealing with mighty powers? I thought Vietnam has plenty of experiences in that regard. Not only China but even the US and Japan treat Vietnam as a disposable chess piece. :lol:
Guess the begging wasn't that convincing so China didn't bother to throw even a bone at VN. So when is US and JP gonna shower VN with high tech weaponry (for free) containing China? :rofl:
ok we got it. we gave you our hand for cooperation but returned home empty handed. except cheap propaganda, there is nothing. Don´t complaint when VN turns to the West. US and Japan seem more receptive, more open for cooperation. AND you should not forget we dealt with western powers when China still had self imposed closed door policy. when most of Chinese were not aware of any country existing outside China :woot:
 

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