US wants regional players to take ownership

[Harry Potter]

Of course the Taliban will trust India more than Karzai.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/11_01_10_afghanpoll.pdf
The BBC survey shows only 2% Afghans find Pakistan as very favorable whereas 29% find India as very favorable.

 

[somebozo]

Beyond doubt that the answer to Afghan problem was political pressure and negotiations but USA has turn the situation volatile and the situation could be explosive for Pakistan post US exit.

 

[OrionHunter]

Orion mate you speak a lot of sense are you really an Indian lol

Yep! An Indian with some brain cells!!!!!

 

[lem34]

Yep! An Indian with some brain cells!!!!!

A rare breed on this forum if I may say so lol

 

[CENTCOM]

The Americans are destined to leave Afghanistan much sooner rather than later. No doubt about it. Even a blind man can sense an abrupt end to the war in Afghanistan. Another reason why the Americans are now so desperate to involve the direct neighbors of Afghanistan into the fold. The bitter truth is that the Americans couldn't achieve any tangible success after a decade of bloodshed. Even the most staunchest of US allies are now reluctant to participate in the battlefront. Some have already withdrawn troops or cut the number. The amount of allied troops involved in combat operations are reduced drastically. Many allies are taking cover under reconstruction and rehabilitation projects. The Americans are willingly negotiating with the Taliban. Even an exit year has been announced. Not to mention the latest US mishaps brewing anti-American sentiment among the ordinary Afghans. It doesn't take Houdini to predict a US exit.

Dear Dalit,

We cannot even think about downplaying the seriousness of any of the recent incidents in Afghanistan. But it’s important that we don’t allow few regrettable incidents to overshadow what we have accomplished in Afghanistan. Our officials have not only apologized but steps are being taken to prevent these regrettable incidents from recurring. You state, “The bitter truth is that the Americans couldn't achieve any tangible success after a decade of bloodshed”. The truth is that the changes taking place today in Afghanistan were simply unimaginable a decade ago. ANSF are fast gaining the capability to independently protect the nation in accordance with the democratically elected Afghan government. You can rest assured that everything is moving according to the plan, and the U.S. is not in any rush to abort its plans in Afghanistan. The U.S has repeatedly voiced the importance of its regional partner and especially Pakistan. We share a common stance with Pakistan against terrorism and look to achieve common objectives in the region. Therefore, it is important for us to iron out the differences that could prevent us from achieving our common goals. Both nations have lost thousands of brave soldiers to the acts of terror on both sides of the border. It is important that we allow our common interests to prevail and work together to bring peace and stability to the region. We have also made our stance clear in regards to the peace negotiations. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton clearly said about “the necessary outcomes of any negotiation: insurgents must renounce violence, abandon al Qaeda, and abide by the constitution of Afghanistan, including its protections for women and minorities. If insurgents cannot meet those red-lines, they will face continued and unrelenting assault."

MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

 

[idune]

Dear Dalit,

We cannot even think about downplaying the seriousness of any of the recent incidents in Afghanistan. But it’s important that we don’t allow few regrettable incidents to overshadow what we have accomplished in Afghanistan. Our officials have not only apologized but steps are being taken to prevent these regrettable incidents from recurring. You state, “The bitter truth is that the Americans couldn't achieve any tangible success after a decade of bloodshed”. The truth is that the changes taking place today in Afghanistan were simply unimaginable a decade ago. ANSF are fast gaining the capability to independently protect the nation in accordance with the democratically elected Afghan government. You can rest assured that everything is moving according to the plan, and the U.S. is not in any rush to abort its plans in Afghanistan. The U.S has repeatedly voiced the importance of its regional partner and especially Pakistan. We share a common stance with Pakistan against terrorism and look to achieve common objectives in the region. Therefore, it is important for us to iron out the differences that could prevent us from achieving our common goals. Both nations have lost thousands of brave soldiers to the acts of terror on both sides of the border. It is important that we allow our common interests to prevail and work together to bring peace and stability to the region. We have also made our stance clear in regards to the peace negotiations. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton clearly said about “the necessary outcomes of any negotiation: insurgents must renounce violence, abandon al Qaeda, and abide by the constitution of Afghanistan, including its protections for women and minorities. If insurgents cannot meet those red-lines, they will face continued and unrelenting assault."

MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

when mainstream US politicians spewing venom against Muslims openly these incidents are bound to happen. After all these soldiers see how their leaders talks and act. So making apology and doing this and that and throwing money will just be window dressing the root of these issues. Until US begin to educate its own population, media and filter venom what change these steps you talking about will bring? Loss you mentioned on US side will only be for nothing.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Dear Dalit,

We cannot even think about downplaying the seriousness of any of the recent incidents in Afghanistan. But it’s important that we don’t allow few regrettable incidents to overshadow what we have accomplished in Afghanistan. Our officials have not only apologized but steps are being taken to prevent these regrettable incidents from recurring. You state, “The bitter truth is that the Americans couldn't achieve any tangible success after a decade of bloodshed”. The truth is that the changes taking place today in Afghanistan were simply unimaginable a decade ago. ANSF are fast gaining the capability to independently protect the nation in accordance with the democratically elected Afghan government. You can rest assured that everything is moving according to the plan, and the U.S. is not in any rush to abort its plans in Afghanistan. The U.S has repeatedly voiced the importance of its regional partner and especially Pakistan. We share a common stance with Pakistan against terrorism and look to achieve common objectives in the region. Therefore, it is important for us to iron out the differences that could prevent us from achieving our common goals. Both nations have lost thousands of brave soldiers to the acts of terror on both sides of the border. It is important that we allow our common interests to prevail and work together to bring peace and stability to the region. We have also made our stance clear in regards to the peace negotiations. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton clearly said about “the necessary outcomes of any negotiation: insurgents must renounce violence, abandon al Qaeda, and abide by the constitution of Afghanistan, including its protections for women and minorities. If insurgents cannot meet those red-lines, they will face continued and unrelenting assault."

MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

OK .. Einstein... here's one for you.

Define FEW REGRETTABLE INCIDENTS.

Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Germany, Iraq, Afghanistan ....

Do you want me to spell it out for u ?
If you have a single shred of any decency left, you'd apologize and leave this job which makes you lie.

 

[lem34]

Dear Dalit,

We cannot even think about downplaying the seriousness of any of the recent incidents in Afghanistan. But it’s important that we don’t allow few regrettable incidents to overshadow what we have accomplished in Afghanistan. Our officials have not only apologized but steps are being taken to prevent these regrettable incidents from recurring. You state, “The bitter truth is that the Americans couldn't achieve any tangible success after a decade of bloodshed”. The truth is that the changes taking place today in Afghanistan were simply unimaginable a decade ago. ANSF are fast gaining the capability to independently protect the nation in accordance with the democratically elected Afghan government. You can rest assured that everything is moving according to the plan, and the U.S. is not in any rush to abort its plans in Afghanistan. The U.S has repeatedly voiced the importance of its regional partner and especially Pakistan. We share a common stance with Pakistan against terrorism and look to achieve common objectives in the region. Therefore, it is important for us to iron out the differences that could prevent us from achieving our common goals. Both nations have lost thousands of brave soldiers to the acts of terror on both sides of the border. It is important that we allow our common interests to prevail and work together to bring peace and stability to the region. We have also made our stance clear in regards to the peace negotiations. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton clearly said about “the necessary outcomes of any negotiation: insurgents must renounce violence, abandon al Qaeda, and abide by the constitution of Afghanistan, including its protections for women and minorities. If insurgents cannot meet those red-lines, they will face continued and unrelenting assault."

MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

Your interests do not converge with the people of Pakistan. You know what happened in Iran. You supported Shah of Iran and his policies to the detriment and against the wishes of its people of Iran. Today you reap what you sow in Iran. But your AIPAC run regime does not learn 14 years ago I was pro American I liked Clintons I liked Macdonalds etc. I even wrote to Hillary Clinton asked her to stand against Bush jnr when he went for a second term. Today I hate what your regime has done in Iraq and Afghanistan and are doing to my country. Your disproportionate response to the attack on the twin towers.

If you had gone into Afghanistan kicked a$$ and left after 3 months I would have been with you. But you and your shenanigans for our neighbourhood today I am one of the 85% Pakistanis that have hatred for what your regime comes. Would you be surprised if Pakistan became tomorrow's Iran??

But then you just don't learn do you. You represent AIPAC American regime.

 

[Dalit]

Dear Dalit,

We cannot even think about downplaying the seriousness of any of the recent incidents in Afghanistan. But it’s important that we don’t allow few regrettable incidents to overshadow what we have accomplished in Afghanistan. Our officials have not only apologized but steps are being taken to prevent these regrettable incidents from recurring. You state, “The bitter truth is that the Americans couldn't achieve any tangible success after a decade of bloodshed”. The truth is that the changes taking place today in Afghanistan were simply unimaginable a decade ago. ANSF are fast gaining the capability to independently protect the nation in accordance with the democratically elected Afghan government. You can rest assured that everything is moving according to the plan, and the U.S. is not in any rush to abort its plans in Afghanistan. The U.S has repeatedly voiced the importance of its regional partner and especially Pakistan. We share a common stance with Pakistan against terrorism and look to achieve common objectives in the region. Therefore, it is important for us to iron out the differences that could prevent us from achieving our common goals. Both nations have lost thousands of brave soldiers to the acts of terror on both sides of the border. It is important that we allow our common interests to prevail and work together to bring peace and stability to the region. We have also made our stance clear in regards to the peace negotiations. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton clearly said about “the necessary outcomes of any negotiation: insurgents must renounce violence, abandon al Qaeda, and abide by the constitution of Afghanistan, including its protections for women and minorities. If insurgents cannot meet those red-lines, they will face continued and unrelenting assault."

MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

Few regrettable incidents? Your army was involved in more than just "a few regrettable incidents". The mishaps have enraged the whole Afghan nation. The ordinary Afghan people don't trust the Americans. Who can blame them?

Really? What about empowering the Northern Alliance warlords? Warlords which are renowned for drug trafficking, abusing women and children, looting, raping and killing in their attempts to capture entire Afghanistan. You think that by substituting one evil with another you can achieve peace and stability in Afghanistan? Let's face it, the US has a terrible history of backing a despot.

It's wishful thinking on your part to believe that progress has been made in Afghanistan. Far from it, human rights abuses have increased manifold. Illicit narcotics cultivation has reached new heights. As a result, the number of women drug addicts has increased exponentially. More Afghan women are resorting to self-immolation. I could go and on.

The people of Pakistan wish you best of luck, but don't desire to be part of this duplicitous and tyrannical war.