US wants regional players to take ownership

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    US wants regional players to take ownership
    By: Mubashir Hassan | March 16, 2012 |
    US wants regional players to take ownership

    LAHORE - In finding a regional solution to Afghan conflict in the wake of its likely exit from Afghanistan, the United States is not only facing the tough challenge of uniting all Afghan factions to agree on the contours of a future setup for the war-torn country, it is also confronting the uphill task of convincing the regional powers to take its ownership.

    A credible diplomatic source told TheNation that US was finding it hard to sell the idea of a consensus government to the regional powers who want their own concerns to be addressed first before giving their nod to the new arrangement in Afghanistan.

    After all, it did not take any of the countries, bordering Afghanistan, into confidence when it invaded Afghanistan maddened by 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center. With the only exception of India, none of the neighbouring countries had welcomed the US invasion of Afghanistan undertaken on the pretext of eliminating Al-Qaeda and Taliban.

    The United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA), an organisation working for political reconciliation and development in Afghanistan since 2002, is also worried about the possible chaos in Afghanistan that may follow after the US leaves the war-torn country.

    The said UN organisation could not achieve landmark progress in achieving the set objectives due to inflexibility of hostile Afghan factions and warring Taliban. The Istanbul Conference followed by a similar event at Bonn, both aimed at initiating intra-afghan dialogue with an ultimate objective of bringing on board all Afghan factions for general reconciliation and formation of consensus government seem to have yielded no results so far.

    The leadership of UNAMA feels that no workable solution for Afghanistan could be found out as long as all the regional countries including China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan and India are on board. In Pakistan’s case, it is of the view that they have to deal with two different governments, i.e., the civilian and the military establishment. “We feel easier to talk to the people in Foreign Office compared to those sitting in the GHQ”, a source close to UNAMA told TheNaion speaking on the condition of anonymity.

    He further said that UNAMA was wondering if the exit of General Pasha from ISI would make any difference and pave the way for a workable and lasting solution to the Afghan conflict. It also believes that India can be a player in any future arrangement for Afghanistan while the people in Pakistan are averse to the idea and the government has its reservations.

    According to the source working closely with UNAMA, the credibility of Karzai and his government is very low. “Therefore, the US wants to bring in India.” Asked if an initiative by Loya Jirga would work for a future consensus government in Afghanistan, the answer was a big No. There is a feeling within UNAMA that unless the interests of regional countries are protected nothing would ever work.

    The source was of the view that Americans are in a terrible hurry to leave Afghanistan and it would be a big mistake if they pulled out of the country without putting in place a workable arrangement. The reason for this haste is said to be domestic pressure on US administration.

    It is mind-boggling for many here that contrary to its earlier stance and policies, the US now wants to come to terms with the Taliban and also wants the Karzai government to fall in line and accept them as one of the major stakeholders in the future setup. But the problem is that Taliban don’t trust Karzai and have more trust in India perhaps.

    “The basic objective is to bring Taliban into the main stream, but the trouble is that they don’t trust Mr Karzai”, the source in UNAMA told TheNation speaking on the condition of anonymity.

    There is also a feeling within UNAMA that even if they succeed in bringing all tribes closer together to reach a power-sharing deal, the arrangement is not going to work for long. They will fall apart after some time, they think

    As the peace agreement in Afghanistan will require the assistance and approval of all major stakeholders in the region, the US administration’s idea of finding some solution to Afghan imbroglio with India also being on board is not acceptable to many countries, especially Pakistan, which has its serious concerns over the issue, though it has declared to support any Afghan-led and Afghan-owned solution to the conflict.

    China, Russia and Iran have also their stakes in Afghanistan and would not like to become part of a solution affecting their interests. This is the reason that US is struggling hard to seek their approval but with little success so far.

    For Pakistan, a worst-affected country as a result of US-led war in Afghanistan, the US’ double standards are hard to fathom: In Afghanistan, it is supporting dialogue with Taliban, but on other side of the border, it is putting pressure on Pakistan to take action against them.


    Stupid American Regime and Stupid Indian regime don't realise they have no border with Afghanistan. America has to leave and India has at best a minor role.
     
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    The yanks should leave AF to Pakistan, china and Iran to solve. These 3 countries know more about Afghans than the ignorant
    and arrogant yanks will ever have.
     
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    wat culture knowledge china shares with afghan?
     
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    U.s should stay in afganistan with considerations of russia and russia should supply military stuff lines to U.S.
     
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    U dont need a border to have influence in another country....
    India plays a key role in Afghanistan...well i dont have to elaborate it...u know that stuff...
    India doesnt play a direct role there but provide support like infrastructure, Job creation, Trade, Military Expansion etc...
    If that makes it neighbors which share a border with Afghanistan Unhappy there is nothing u could about it...
    :pop:
     
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    Yea rite. Keep dreaming Americans cant afford it.

    they have a border with Afghanistan unlike Indians and Americans
     
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    lets see what becomes reality:)
     
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    Only role India has is consulates to destabilise Pakistan. I mean give me break why don't you have several consulates in Iran etc
     
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    India is helping a US puppet to stay in power. You guys know nothing about AF culture and are only
    there with US backing. Do afghans really want you there? The AFghans don't foreign meddling in
    their affairs and that's why they are fighting against the Yanks. First help the Kashmiris before
    thinking about AF.
     
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    Indians could do well to sort out their own issues like insurgencies before playing the white man's proxy in our region
     
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    They can help AF with trade and commerce as they have a common border, while AF will have more faith in PAK and Iran than
    they will have in the Yanks.
     
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    Before lecturing us ..why don't you first stop drone attacks inside pakistan ??
     
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    Dear we already did... Remember you posted link... You know very well you are just trolling.
     
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    dude...did you even read what I have posted ? Your Gov appeals only...and US rejected it. 24*7 survelliance by drones is shameful.
     
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    Well the insurgencies within India is reducing day by day...Things r becoming stable these days...
    But im not saying that its been wiped out entirely... All im saying is things r improving...
    We have several consulates in a Afghanistan not to destabilize pakistan....
    They are there to issue visas for afghans to visit India and learn how to establish business, get education and all....
    They also help them visit hospital need, agricultural needs, Irrigation projects and all...
    Afghanistan and India are traditionally allies....
    And now when they r in trouble we stepped in to help them..thats all...
    Even after US leaves Afghanistan, India will continue to play a key role over there....
    India was the top country ordinary afghans preferred to help and assist them compared with countries like US, Pakistan and all...
    Hope u might have read the poll posted here sometime ago....
    Pakistan is destabilizing not because of some Indian consulates in Afghanistan...
    People in Pakistan are responsible for it