US Giving Turkey Access to F-16 Source Codes

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    Turkey to rewrite software source codes of 204 F-16 fighters

    The US administration agreed in principle almost two months ago for the transfer of information over software source codes of US Lockheed Martin-made F-16 fighters to Turkey.

    Once the agreement is completed, and if approved by the US Congress, Turkey will have the capability to automatically modify the software source codes of the fighters’ weapons systems with national software source codes, said US sources who asked not to be named.Turkey will become the first nation among 26 to have the F-16s in their inventories and have the ability to receive information on the F-16 fighters’ software source codes -- primarily their weapons systems -- thereby enabling it to replace them with national software source codes whenever necessary.

    Once Turkey and the US complete around 50 pages of technical details over the nature of the US transfer of technology, an agreement should be signed, pending US congressional approval.

    The US Congress has long prevented arms transfers to NATO member Turkey, mainly in reaction to its strained ties with Israel.

    However, the US administration has as of late sought US congressional authorization for the sale of three AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters to Turkey. This indicates a softening on the part of the congress toward Turkey.

    Turkey has a long-standing request for Super Cobras. It has a shortage of these helicopters, required in its ongoing fight against the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) terrorists, who have increased their violent attacks as of late.

    Meanwhile, it is not clear whether the US administration will seek US congressional authorization for another long-standing Turkish request for the sale of four Predator unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and two armed Reaper UAVs.

    However, some of the weapons, including Predators that the US reportedly pledged to transfer to Turkey as it withdraws from Iraq in December of this year, are said to not be subject to the approval of the US Congress. These are weapons the US used during its war in Iraq.

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    US sources stated that Washington has agreed in principle to transfer the information mainly concerning the weapon systems of the F-16s so that Turkey can integrate by itself the national software source codes because Turkey has pursued a very persistent policy on the matter.

    However, Turkey’s approval to deploy a radar system of the US-supported NATO Missile Defense System on its soil is understood to have played an important role in Washington’s agreement to in principle transfer the software source codes of mainly the weapons systems of the F-16s to Turkey.

    Turkey agreed last month to host a powerful US-supplied radar system to act as advanced eyes for a layered shield against ballistic missiles coming from outside Europe.

    The AN/TPY-2 surveillance radar in Turkey will boost the shield’s capability against Iran, which Washington alleges is seeking to build nuclear weapons, a charge Tehran denies.

    “By agreeing to transfer information on F-16 weapon systems so that Turkey could automatically integrate them with national software source codes, the US sought to ease tensions with its NATO ally, which is important in safeguarding US interests in the Middle East. The US also puts strong emphasis on seeing Turkish-Israeli relations normalize,” said the US source.

    50 weapons systems on each F-16

    Lockheed Martin this year began supplying Turkey with 14 F-16C variants and 16 F-16Ds under a deal signed in May 2007. The total cost of 30 additional F-16s to Turkey is $1.78 billion.

    Under a separate agreement signed in April 2005 between Turkey and the US, 213 Turkish F-16s are being upgraded at a cost of $1.1 billion at the Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) in Ankara. Turkey will be able to change the software source codes of the weapons systems on a total of 204 F-16s with national software source codes if a final agreement is reached with the US.

    There are 50 different types of weapons systems on each F-16 that are classified.[​IMG]
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    so that mean Turkey F-35 deal for 100 F-35 jets coming soon.
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    PAF should immediately look to working with TAI to use the Turkish code for its F-16's.
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    that what i call "BRABERI KE BUNYAAD" NOT "BEGERAT BEHKARI"
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    How ironic, since it was a Crash of the Turkish F-16, which spilt the beans on the chip codes.

    No doubt, Turkey must have conveyed reservations for any future procurement.
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    With indigenous software and mission computer which will be integrated on F-16's called "Ozgur", Turkey is able to integrate following items on F-16's;

    Savunma Sanayii Müste


    A-G Domestic Missiles

    HGK-1 (15 miles)
    HGK-2
    KGK-82 (60 miles)
    KGK-83
    SOM Cruise missile (180+ km)
    NEB Bunker Buster
    Lazer Guided Munitions
    ATMACA SSM (80+ km)

    A-A Domestic Missiles

    Short Rage IIR guided Missile
    Long Range Radar guided Missile

    ---------- Post added at 01:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:15 PM ----------

    After USA-Turkey agreed on deployment of USA Radar on Turkey, The cooperations coming to surface between two allies are like following;

    -3 AH-1W
    -4 Predator, 2 Reaper UAV as a stop-gap to use against PKK until ANKA became operational,
    -Releasing the Sourcecodes of 204 Turkish F-16's to integrate Turkey's domestic missiles,
    -More Intelligence sharing against activities of PKK in N. Irak
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    With additional 204 F-16 sourcecodes, Turkey gains fully access for all aircraft fleets source codes...

    10x F16's have been CCIP upgraded already (2x blk30 + 4 blk40 + 4 blk50)
    35x F16 blk30 are upgraded with domestic mission computers at TURAF factory
    165x F16 blk 40/50 to be serial upgraded by TAI/TURAF factory
    30 (+16 option) New F-16 Block-50+
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    Total F-16 which Turkey gains full access are 240+16 option
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    totally agreed but if usa will give access source code that turkey is demanding
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    if turkey do get the source code i really doubt Pakistan would have them this thing is as clear to me as light though i am sure that senior member would be able to tell the reality better
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    What was this about can you please point out. CRASH OF Turkish F-16 when ?
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    Q: Will the Americans be able to track the locations of the Block 52s through some sort of tracking devices hidden inside the aircraft?

    A: If there are tracking devices then they will be inside the sealed systems, like the avionics suites or the sniper pods because we will not have the ability to look inside. If their Predator and Reaper drones are transmitting their GPS locations via satellite so can a Block 52 F-16.
    Even though Turkey produces the F-16, there are some components that are manufactured in the US and only come to Turkey for the final assembly. In one incident, a Turkish Block 50 crashed and the pilot was killed. They salvaged the wreckage and laid it out in hanger and started putting together the pieces to find out the cause. They found a piece of sealed equipment which had cracked open and inside they found some device that looked like a bug. Upon inquiry, it turned out to be a tracking device.
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    Yes! there are many tracking devices installed within the F-16'ns which work independant of the sourcecodes or the normal functioning of the aircraft Plus there are certain more devices embedded within the control systems of the F-16'ns that can initiale any kind of malfunction within its sytems whenever required independant of its source codes being changed....:smokin:
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    If we had shown some backbone we would not have been treated like bhikari
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    No wonder why we didnt go for more F-16s.
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    The software running in an F-16 has millions of lines, and has multiple layers of security and modes of operation. Turkey will gain access to only some layers in an "approved" manner undoubtedly.
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