Turkey is preparing to buy/make an aircraft carrier!

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  1. Ottoman-Turk
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    lol yes part of but we werent a slave of any of those countries you get it ? we had war with them but we werent their colony or whatever so thats very different i was a citizen of a country that got ruled like a slave of a british or french i would be extremely opposed and im sure i would want all people in my country to its hard to believe , its not like these countries treated you well they done all the bad things they could take your resources make themselves rich leave you poor, did you see the english gold reserves when i saw that omg they were probably from an african country , where that country could have been much richer and i heard there worth 160billion dollars of gold
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    even america got colonised for a long time, hong kong is the biggest single economy of china and it was a colony till 2000s,malaysia was a british colony too so was singapore whats your point??

    yeah they looted our wealth but wealth has come and gone, mongols and mughals also looted sub continent wealth for centuries, but they also industrialised many countries

    africans still have a lot of wealth, have you seen movie 'blood diamond'?? they can still be rich countries, but they dont know about civilization, they dont get civilized

    you should be in turkey, what you are even doing in UK?, all your hard work is benefiting UK,the same work can benefit your country and by paying taxes, return to your country
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    No you just lost the last great Muslim Empire for a farce of a war and managed to screw the whole Ummah for a territorial Jihad...no wonder Ataturk was fed up with the old system.

    P.S There were Indian Muslims in the British Indian Army who refused to fight against the Ottomans - a Muslim Empire - and deserted or were shot for the mutiny - I should know, my Grandfather served as an Engineer in the British Indian Army in the First World War. Additionally Muslim women sold their jewelry in the Indian Subcontinent to fund your War of Independence - so get off your high-horse and give some credit to this slave who told his colonial masters: to go fook themselves, for a fellow Muslim.
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    No to AC! just for the simple fact that if a war breaks out and the potential enemy succeed to sink the AC psychologically u already lost the war! IMO Turkish navy cannot successfully defend such a asset atm.
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    darkinsky 1. I never chose to live in UK And also I will move to turkey like most people do and also why are English / Germans living in turkey there aremany examples 2.turks in Europe usually invest back in turkey buying houses etc one of our foots are always their they usually move back turkey we are nt like many people who forget their country I go turkey every year also im nt against history im against all the countries who are in commenwealth / Francophone I think itis why the hell would you join something where they looted your wealth its unbelievable
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    You are funny. You have a very chaotic way of arguing your case. It's like you have a million thoughts and you're trying to express them in one go. So they all comes out in one big pile of chaos. makes spaces, start a new line and limit yourself so you don't stand out like a unrefined nationalist.

    Your unorganized way of writing, arguing is probably the cause for why you start reading non-existing insinuations between the lines, there is another word for it "Paranoid".

    A Patriot is better than a nationalist. Perhaps you should watch Braveheart or read novels of Said Nursi. But it is not easy to be a patriot because you have to accept a lot of things that you don't have to when you are a nationalist.

    Tell me this ohh wise Ottoman-Turk, why is it called "Ülkücü" (nationalist) and not "Vatansever" (Patriot).

    Vatan senin neyin olur ? (How do you perceive your homeland ?)

    I feel you on this one, we earn money, work hard and make our investment in Turkey. And if you can improve and help your city, village etc. in growing becoming better then you've donea great deal for improving life for your turkish countrymen. e.g. opening an internet cafe etc. in remote areas etc. and such.

    http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=111541425554968
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    ulkucus are vatan sever at the hardest time believe me U will only be wishing for ulkucus do you know how many volunteered for Azeri war ? Destroying asala terror , destroying supporters and financers of PKK etc what did they do wrong? Atm mhp is protecting ataturks ideas etc most CHP under kilicdaroglu is for me like bdp
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    HAHAAAA exactly bro, you see? where were those ''fake'' milli gorusculer *NOTE FAKE* at those really rough times uh?.. out of fear they were just 24/7 hiding at home! :D But now when the place is quite and save for them they come out ''like they know everything" pointing fingers at others and acting up like they ever did some shhh!!
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    I'm quite saddened that you don't seem to answer what I am asking for. You are more focused on defending "ülkücü" than looking at the core values. I have nothing against ülkücü (nationalists), so don't jump to conclusions.

    If you look at history, of any nation, you will see that the nationalistic/patriotic feelings have been one of the greatest assets the people has (revolutions, defending their home from invaders etc.). And it's not any different for Turkey, but what you may want to think about is, how the past actions are any similar to present time.

    Afghanistan during the reign of Sovjet, watch the movie "charlie wilsons war", a very good movie, or Rambo 3 for that matter.

    What I am saying is do not confuse the actions of the past with the present. There are good and bad in everything.

    Here is another opinion of mine, the people who fought for Turkeys freedom from occupation were more patriotic than nationalistic.

    Another opinion of mine that may cause an uproar is this, Islam in Turkey is wonderful, and perfect, but Islam in iraq and Afghanistan are rotten. It makes me sick, and the reason for this feeling is that shiite and sunni attack each other and bomb each other...

    But the flaw is human and has nothing to do with Islam, this I also know.
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    stay on topic guyzzzzz.......
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    May I please have the source? You know you can't make claims such as "Country A is buying ships manufactured by Country B" without having proof.
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    good they can spend all teh money on the carrier and then fly paper planes form it....
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    great news...:tup:
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    F-35Bs,t T-129Cs, Sea Kings and Seahawks aren't paper made buddy.
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