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Do the attacks on the discipline of History presage worse days ahead?

The appointment of Yellapragada Sudershan Rao as the new chairperson of the Indian Council of Historical Research (ICHR) may have been disappointing, but surely not unexpected. It has been widely reported in the mainstream media that Y S Rao’s opinions on historical matters align very closely with the world view of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and other Hindutva ideologues. These views include a celebration of the caste system and an assertion that epics like the Ramayana and the Mahabharata are exact expositions of events as they happened while also being compendia of “Indian” morality. His corpus of work as a historian, on the other hand, remains largely unpublished and unknown. It is evident that the new ICHR head has been appointed to push the Hindutva version of history and institutionalise it as much as possible.

The discipline of History has been the first to be attacked by religious right-wingers in India because a consciousness of history and a historical memory have been the biggest obstacles to the project of religious nationalism in our part of the world. The destruction of the discipline of History is central to the political project of religious nationalism but it is defended as an alternate, nationalist, version of history. We have seen the consequences of such attacks on History in neighbouring Pakistan where Muslim nationalists and fundamentalists have destroyed the discipline with state backing. Their Hindutva cousins in India attempted to do something similar during the first National Democratic Alliance (NDA) regime with the support of the then Human Resource Development Minister, Murli Manohar Joshi. That attempt was only a partial success; partly because of the unexpected end to NDA rule, and also because, over the past century or so, the discipline of History in India has developed roots deep enough to weather a storm or two.

However, it would be a mistake to be sanguine about the ability of the discipline to remain immune to renewed attacks. Despite all the advancements in the academic practice of the discipline, historians have been far less able and willing to reach out to a wider audience in sustained public engagements about the past and the present. This is not to suggest that historians have confined themselves to their proverbial “ivory towers”. Yet the popular narratives of history and thus the “historical consciousness” of people have remained hostage to what can perhaps only be described by a neologism: non-history, which could be defined as a narrative of the past which subverts the basic methodological rules and epistemological claims of History as a discipline.

While some historians have, periodically, agonised and written about the inability of the discipline to become “popular”, there has never been a successful attempt to change this. The ICHR and the Indian History Congress – the oldest institutions of the discipline in the country – have failed to engage in a battle with non-history and push back its boundaries. Rather, they have been unsuccessful in even defending the discipline in the few islands where it is still practised – the university departments and research institutions. An endemic lack of funds for research or for the preservation and development of archives, the widespread prevalence of nepotistic appointments and academic mediocrity, lack of enough good journals for publishing research, combined with the unavailability of employment (other than in administrative services) for History graduates have all hollowed out the discipline from inside. Instead of historians engaging with and confronting non-history, the present situation is one where History as a discipline is not practised in most History departments of Indian universities and archives remain open only to the “gnawing criticism of the rats”.

There are, however, some who have argued that what this RSS-dominated NDA government is doing is merely a mirror of what the “Marxists” have done previously. This is not only incorrect as both institutions have allowed historians of different persuasions to practise their scholarship, but also unfair as it clubs serious historians with a range of views, often conflicting, with the proponents of non-history. As Romila Thapar has pointed out, “Marxist” in this context has come to mean anyone who adheres to the basic methodological rules and epistemological claims of the discipline, not actually those who work with Marxist tools. The critique of ICHR can well be that it did not do enough to build up History as a discipline, but it cannot be that one set of “historians” is repeating what another set did. What is being proposed under the new dispensation is not just a reordering of the ideological and political moorings of History as a discipline in India, rather it seems to be a first step towards abolishing History as a modern, academic discipline and replacing it with Hindu fundamentalist dogma. A negation of history is after all the first, and foundational, step towards negating India as a modern, secular democracy.

The Reign of Non-History | Economic and Political Weekly

@Joe Shearer @Oscar @Aeronaut @Bang Galore @Indischer @Ravi Nair @nair @Contrarian and all
 
Do the attacks on the discipline of History presage worse days ahead?

The appointment of Yellapragada Sudershan Rao as the new chairperson of the Indian Council of Historical Research (ICHR) may have been disappointing, but surely not unexpected. It has been widely reported in the mainstream media that Y S Rao’s opinions on historical matters align very closely with the world view of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and other Hindutva ideologues. These views include a celebration of the caste system and an assertion that epics like the Ramayana and the Mahabharata are exact expositions of events as they happened while also being compendia of “Indian” morality. His corpus of work as a historian, on the other hand, remains largely unpublished and unknown. It is evident that the new ICHR head has been appointed to push the Hindutva version of history and institutionalise it as much as possible.

The discipline of History has been the first to be attacked by religious right-wingers in India because a consciousness of history and a historical memory have been the biggest obstacles to the project of religious nationalism in our part of the world. The destruction of the discipline of History is central to the political project of religious nationalism but it is defended as an alternate, nationalist, version of history. We have seen the consequences of such attacks on History in neighbouring Pakistan where Muslim nationalists and fundamentalists have destroyed the discipline with state backing. Their Hindutva cousins in India attempted to do something similar during the first National Democratic Alliance (NDA) regime with the support of the then Human Resource Development Minister, Murli Manohar Joshi. That attempt was only a partial success; partly because of the unexpected end to NDA rule, and also because, over the past century or so, the discipline of History in India has developed roots deep enough to weather a storm or two.

However, it would be a mistake to be sanguine about the ability of the discipline to remain immune to renewed attacks. Despite all the advancements in the academic practice of the discipline, historians have been far less able and willing to reach out to a wider audience in sustained public engagements about the past and the present. This is not to suggest that historians have confined themselves to their proverbial “ivory towers”. Yet the popular narratives of history and thus the “historical consciousness” of people have remained hostage to what can perhaps only be described by a neologism: non-history, which could be defined as a narrative of the past which subverts the basic methodological rules and epistemological claims of History as a discipline.

While some historians have, periodically, agonised and written about the inability of the discipline to become “popular”, there has never been a successful attempt to change this. The ICHR and the Indian History Congress – the oldest institutions of the discipline in the country – have failed to engage in a battle with non-history and push back its boundaries. Rather, they have been unsuccessful in even defending the discipline in the few islands where it is still practised – the university departments and research institutions. An endemic lack of funds for research or for the preservation and development of archives, the widespread prevalence of nepotistic appointments and academic mediocrity, lack of enough good journals for publishing research, combined with the unavailability of employment (other than in administrative services) for History graduates have all hollowed out the discipline from inside. Instead of historians engaging with and confronting non-history, the present situation is one where History as a discipline is not practised in most History departments of Indian universities and archives remain open only to the “gnawing criticism of the rats”.

There are, however, some who have argued that what this RSS-dominated NDA government is doing is merely a mirror of what the “Marxists” have done previously. This is not only incorrect as both institutions have allowed historians of different persuasions to practise their scholarship, but also unfair as it clubs serious historians with a range of views, often conflicting, with the proponents of non-history. As Romila Thapar has pointed out, “Marxist” in this context has come to mean anyone who adheres to the basic methodological rules and epistemological claims of the discipline, not actually those who work with Marxist tools. The critique of ICHR can well be that it did not do enough to build up History as a discipline, but it cannot be that one set of “historians” is repeating what another set did. What is being proposed under the new dispensation is not just a reordering of the ideological and political moorings of History as a discipline in India, rather it seems to be a first step towards abolishing History as a modern, academic discipline and replacing it with Hindu fundamentalist dogma. A negation of history is after all the first, and foundational, step towards negating India as a modern, secular democracy.

The Reign of Non-History | Economic and Political Weekly

@Joe Shearer @Oscar @Aeronaut @Bang Galore @Indischer @Ravi Nair @nair @Contrarian and all

History has always been used a propaganda tool for concerned parties. Whether Congress or the Hindu nationalist groups. One thing the religious extremist group are obsessed with, Whether they be Hindu, or Christian extremists in U.S. or their Islamic counterparts, they are obsessed with lending historical and scientific credence to their mythology.

Historical biases are always there, @Joe Shearer knows more about this than me. The Hindu nationalist view of history is another side to the story. We must hear many sides of a story and decide for ourselves the 'truth.'

One thing lacking from Indian institutions is the level of research and the amount dedicated to it.
 
We must hear many sides of a story and decide for ourselves the 'truth.'
What is alarming is a historian who uses methodological rules and scientifically approved methods in research of history is becoming a "Marxist" historian despite the fact that his/her ideological or political view point might be inclined to Right wing. History is an academic subject and what institutions like ICHR lack is keep their nationalistic views away from academic research so far.
There are plenty of evidences what nationalistic historians have done in the past during NDA regime and last thing I want is these historians, inspired by their religious dogmas repeat those same mistakes in their endeavor to rewrite the history of this region again.
 
The latest archaeological excavations conducted on the Court directions at the Janmabhumi site did reveal the ruins of a basement of a very big columned erstwhile monument on which the Babri mosque was built. Stone pillars and door-jams with Hindu motifs used in the construction of the mosque by Mir Baqi were found in the excavations. The images of Hindu deities were also found below the ground at the disputed site. These archaeological arte’ facts are also being interpreted differently by the archaeologists and historians.

Now, this is a little excerpt from Mr.Rao's blog on Ram Janmabhoomi. No doubt there are plenty of evidences that there is a structure beneath the mosque but the way Mr.Rao is taking stone pillars and big columns as support of Ram Janmabhoomi claim is very surprising. The number of big hexagonal columns were much less than what was claimed by B B Lal and the team of ASI. At other point, Rao seems quite satisfied on the fact that even the Mosque supporters did not deny there was a temple beneath. Should this be considered as a proof that there was a temple there? According to right wing historians,perhaps yes. According to this set of historians, Ayodhya was plundered and temples were destroyed by Babar. Amazingly, Tulsidas, a contemporary to Babar makes no mention of such plunder and destruction who lived in the adjacent region.

Y Sudershan Rao
 
History has always been used a propaganda tool for concerned parties. Whether Congress or the Hindu nationalist groups. One thing the religious extremist group are obsessed with, Whether they be Hindu, or Christian extremists in U.S. or their Islamic counterparts, they are obsessed with lending historical and scientific credence to their mythology.

Historical biases are always there, @Joe Shearer knows more about this than me. The Hindu nationalist view of history is another side to the story. We must hear many sides of a story and decide for ourselves the 'truth.'

One thing lacking from Indian institutions is the level of research and the amount dedicated to it.

1. Not always. Herodotus sought to make it a propaganda tool, Thucydides sought to make it neutral and factual. Ranke and other Germans actually hoped that they would be able to write dispassionate, 'objective' history; naturally, they failed.
2. They (religious extremists) are obsessed with lending historical and scientific credence to their mythology, but do not have the professional skills or experience to do that.
3. Historical biases are themselves the subjects of study. The study is called historiography.
4. If the Hindu nationalist view had been presented as history, it would have been heard and rewarded. That view is presented, typically, as non-history.
5. I agree about poor levels of research and amounts dedicated to the discipline.
 
1. Not always. Herodotus sought to make it a propaganda tool, Thucydides sought to make it neutral and factual. Ranke and other Germans actually hoped that they would be able to write dispassionate, 'objective' history; naturally, they failed.
2. They (religious extremists) are obsessed with lending historical and scientific credence to their mythology, but do not have the professional skills or experience to do that.
3. Historical biases are themselves the subjects of study. The study is called historiography.
4. If the Hindu nationalist view had been presented as history, it would have been heard and rewarded. That view is presented, typically, as non-history.
5. I agree about poor levels of research and amounts dedicated to the discipline.

I cam across numerous people calling genetic studies outcome by prestigious international institutions as 'Hindutva' propaganda. :sarcastic::sarcastic:

What is alarming is a historian who uses methodological rules and scientifically approved methods in research of history is becoming a "Marxist" historian despite the fact that his/her ideological or political view point might be inclined to Right wing. History is an academic subject and what institutions like ICHR lack is keep their nationalistic views away from academic research so far.
There are plenty of evidences what nationalistic historians have done in the past during NDA regime and last thing I want is these historians, inspired by their religious dogmas repeat those same mistakes in their endeavor to rewrite the history of this region again.

Now, Indians have greater to internet and history is no more feeding like version in old days. People can learn different perspective and can decide it themselves.
 
I cam across numerous people calling genetic studies outcome by prestigious international institutions as 'Hindutva' propaganda. :sarcastic::sarcastic:



Now, Indians have greater to internet and history is no more feeding like version in old days. People can learn different perspective and can decide it themselves.

It's not about greater access. Access was always there. It's about crap floating about masquerading as historical research, or as authentic history, when it is some bozo's personal dementia. Newbies cannot make out the difference, and fall for the sensationalised stuff of nightmares. that is the objectionable part.
 
It's not about greater access. Access was always there. It's about crap floating about masquerading as historical research, or as authentic history, when it is some bozo's personal dementia. Newbies cannot make out the difference, and fall for the sensationalised stuff of nightmares. that is the objectionable part.

Its internet, everyone put things in own perspective many true and many false. But certainly, its no more the case of feeding a certain version in kids mind as it was happening in old days.
 
1. Not always. Herodotus sought to make it a propaganda tool, Thucydides sought to make it neutral and factual. Ranke and other Germans actually hoped that they would be able to write dispassionate, 'objective' history; naturally, they failed.
2. They (religious extremists) are obsessed with lending historical and scientific credence to their mythology, but do not have the professional skills or experience to do that.
3. Historical biases are themselves the subjects of study. The study is called historiography.
4. If the Hindu nationalist view had been presented as history, it would have been heard and rewarded. That view is presented, typically, as non-history.
5. I agree about poor levels of research and amounts dedicated to the discipline.

I purposely linked you so that you would correct me on this.

always great conversing with you Nehru loving, Marxist historian ;) I always learn something

1. Not always. Herodotus sought to make it a propaganda tool, Thucydides sought to make it neutral and factual. Ranke and other Germans actually hoped that they would be able to write dispassionate, 'objective' history; naturally, they failed.
2. They (religious extremists) are obsessed with lending historical and scientific credence to their mythology, but do not have the professional skills or experience to do that.
3. Historical biases are themselves the subjects of study. The study is called historiography.
4. If the Hindu nationalist view had been presented as history, it would have been heard and rewarded. That view is presented, typically, as non-history.
5. I agree about poor levels of research and amounts dedicated to the discipline.

Now, one inability that I still think a lot of people, especially in the sub-continent hasn't still caught on is the fact that national heroes, in their Human fragility have did some things in their personal life considered to be 'immoral.'

I think people need to divorce their actions and their personal life. except in cases where they advocated for a position but behind the curtain indulged in the vices they denounced publicly.

Human foibles makes one, well a human.
 
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I purposely linked you so that you would correct me on this.

always great conversing with you Nehru loving, Marxist historian ;) I always learn something



Now, one inability that I still think a lot of people, especially in the sub-continent hasn't still caught on is the fact that national heroes, in their Human fragility have did some things in their personal life considered to be 'immoral.'

I think people need to divorce their actions and their personal life. except in cases where they advocated for a position but behind the curtain indulged in the vices they denounced publicly.

Human foibles makes one, well a human.

Are you drunk?
 
what do you expect from the saffron chaddis .. absolutely disgusting. :guns:
 
Are you drunk?

what? the Marxist historian bit? That was sarcasm, thus the ;) emoticon. Sorry if I failed to convey my humor properly. I usually put (sarcasm) after the end of my sentence just so that I don't end up antagonizing people over the internet.

I actually agreed with a lot of the stuff you said.

A bit puzzled with the negative rating you gave though. I wasn't trolling or anything :unsure:

what do you expect from the saffron chaddis .. absolutely disgusting. :guns:

My comment in relation to accusing him of being a Marxist historian was supposed to be sarcastic. Why would I suddenly take the side of those who i have a rocky relationship with in this forum? (saffronists)
 

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