What's new

The Pakistan Navy's Frigate Options

Quwa

Research Partner
Joined
May 16, 2006
Messages
2,538
Reaction score
47
Country
Pakistan
Location
Canada
THE PAKISTAN NAVY’S FRIGATE OPTIONS
A look at how the Pakistan Navy might acquire new and used frigates

15 February 2016

By Bilal Khan

‘Frigates’ are surface warships. These warships are the mainstay of a naval fleet, often serving in roles such as patrolling a country’s maritime space, escorting other ships, and engaging in direct combat operations against enemy naval assets. A modern frigate is a multi-mission system, most often equipped for anti-ship warfare (AShW), anti-submarine warfare (ASW), and anti-air warfare (AAW).

It is important to understand that modern frigates, i.e. systems equipped with sufficient AAW capabilities, are indispensable naval assets. Yes, diesel-electric submarines (SSKs) have emerged as major threats for all surface combatants, but for one to possess the maximum possible flexibility in using their own SSKs, it is imperative they have the means to counter systems designed to track and hunt SSKs, such as maritime patrol aircraft (MPA).

A frigate equipped with sufficient AAW capabilities, particularly in the form of medium-range surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), is an example of an effective countermeasure. Unfortunately, the Pakistan Navy (PN) is completely lacking in this regard, and there is no clear roadmap as to when or how this will be resolved.

The PN’s current fleet is composed of one FFG-7 (Oliver Hazard Perry-class), five ex-Royal Navy Type-21 (Amazon-class) and four F-22P (Zulfiqar-class) frigates. Taken together, the FFG-7, Type-21 and F-22P are decent AShW and ASW platforms, but their collective AAW capabilities are restricted to short-range air defence (SHORAD) systems. For example, the FM-90 SAM used on the F-22P has a maximum engagement range of 15km. While this is good for protecting the vessel, it does not offer area wide air defence coverage.

Moreover, the PN’s Type-21s are heavily aged platforms that are basically in need of being phased out. Once these ships are gone, the PN will be left with a glaring capability gap in its surface fleet. In order to rectify this problem, the PN had originally hoped to acquire up to six retired FFG-7/Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates from the U.S., but general hostility in Congress towards Pakistan closed this avenue. Instead, the PN will have to look for used frigates in other countries.

For the PN, it may not be prudent to heavily invest in upgrading used platforms. At this stage, the PN simply needs ships it can operate in accordance with its peacetime needs, such as its participation in Combined Task Force 150. But in terms of the long-term, the PN will be best served by selecting a new-generation platform, which it can then build-upon to develop a solution tuned to its specific needs. While several options may exist in this regard, it is likely that the PN would ultimately select China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Co. (CSOC) as its partner in this project.

It is worth noting that the PN is acquiring eight new submarines from CSOC, hence it is well within the realm of reason to see the PN expand that partnership into the area of frigates. In fact, CSOC even has an export-focused design, i.e. the “High Performance Frigate.” The 3700 ton High Performance Frigate utilizes a stealthy hull design meant to reduce the ship’s radar and infrared signatures. With a length of 135 metres, maximum speed of 28 knots, and a crew of around 110 personnel, the High Performance Frigate is essentially a medium-sized multi-mission frigate.

According to the defence news site Navy Recognition, CSOC’s design incorporates a 32-cell vertical launch system (VLS). These VLS cells could be used to deploy medium-range SAMs, such as the Chinese HHQ-16, which has a range of at least 40km. In addition, the frigate can be equipped with two anti-ship missile (AShM) quad-launchers and a 76.2mm main naval gun. Two close-in weapon-systems (CIWS) and a point-defence missile system (PDMS) are also present for protection against incoming anti-ship missiles.

Interestingly, CSOC did not specify the frigate’s ASW capabilities. Instead, CSOC representatives told Navy Recognition that it “depends on customer needs.” Since CSOC did not explicitly mention that the VLS was restricted to SAMs, it is possible that the design could be configured to carry (in addition to two triple ASW torpedo launchers) a VLS-launched rocket-powered torpedo solution, such as the CY-5. This would confer the High Performance Frigate with VL-ASROC-style ASW capabilities. While a modern frigate’s torpedo tubes give it ASW capabilities, ASROC-like capability can offer additional engagement range.

It is evident that the CSOC High Performance Frigate design has the features (e.g. VLS) to warrant at least the possibility of serving as the basis of the PN’s next-generation surface fleet. CSOC has developed a balanced design, and if paired with the full-suite of Chinese armaments (i.e. HHQ-16 SAM, C-802 AShM, CY-5 VL-ASROC, FL-3000N PDMS, and Yu-7 ASW torpedo), a fleet of six to eight of these frigates would be an exponential leap compared to the PN’s existing fleet.

Moreover, the PN has the option to customize the design, which it could use to fulfill future requirements. For example, it could work with CSOC to develop an enlarged version with an additional 16 or 32 VLS-cells, which could be allocated for the Babur land-attack cruise missile (LACM) and/or long-range SAMs (100km+). A smaller number (three or four) of these large frigates could compliment a larger number (six to eight) of medium-sized frigates, thereby giving the PN a robust frigate fleet capable of addressing key maritime challenges, especially in wartime.

Unfortunately, Pakistan’s structural economic problems will dampen the PN’s modernization efforts. While an expensive acquisition, a new design offers long-term cost-savings (by freeing the PN of maintaining heavily aged platforms and replacing them more frequently), in addition to enhanced operational capabilities. Given that a fleet of modern multi-mission frigates is vital to Pakistan’s long-term maritime interests, it is imperative that the Pakistan Navy not be put into a situation to compromise on this front.

The Pakistan Navy’s Frigate Options

@Horus
 
The 8 AIP subs will be good, it will give us 13 subs in total, not including any midget subs (11 if you dont count the Agosta 70s)

Im sure a SLBM is just round the corner for us

But we should have maybe inducted less subs now upto 4 with the intention of inducting more subs later and used the funds to get more surface vessels, especially with decent air defence capabilities

The only hope is that our economy keeps improving and the PN gets more money to improve quickly

The establishment of Gwader may mean ships are coming and we may get a surprise in the near future but funds are required either way
 
What about Chinese Type -054
800px-thumbnail.jpg


and

IVER HUITFELDT-CLASS From Denmark
we can buy this in $325 M/piece

iver-huitfeldt-class.jpg
 
I will do a piece analyzing Western frigate options, particularly from Spain, Denmark and the Netherlands. Just a general point though, there will be hurdles going that route, and the added costs may not be worth the potentially marginal improvements they could offer over Chinese counterparts. There is also the reality of our limited access to modern Western munitions. If PN is going to the Western route, then it should get the munitions - from AShM, ASW and SAM - built locally, so as to ensure sanctions don't cripple operational capabilities.
 
I will do a piece analyzing Western frigate options, particularly from Spain, Denmark and the Netherlands. Just a general point though, there will be hurdles going that route, and the added costs may not be worth the potentially marginal improvements they could offer over Chinese counterparts. There is also the reality of our limited access to modern Western munitions. If PN is going to the Western route, then it should get the munitions - from AShM, ASW and SAM - built locally, so as to ensure sanctions don't cripple operational capabilities.
you forgot italy, turkey and the UK. i was gonna say Germany but they wont sell ships to you guys, unless if you ask nicely. i like the Italian fremm frigate, but at 600 million euro's it not cheap.
Bergamini%2BGP.jpg
 
you forgot italy, turkey and the UK. i was gonna say Germany but they wont sell ships to you guys, unless if you ask nicely. i like the Italian fremm frigate, but at 600 million euro's it not cheap.
Bergamini%2BGP.jpg
I would've put Germany a few years ago, but MEKO designs look really expensive, even compared to other European options. Britain's Type-31 design could be interesting.
 
I would've put Germany a few years ago, but MEKO designs look really expensive, even compared to other European options. Britain's Type-31 design could be interesting.
theres no drawings yet, only concepts. the larger type 26 ships will be built first then the type 31 with export orders.
 
Im sure a SLBM is just round the corner for us
Are you sure about your statment??? I mean abhi SLCM tou aya nhe SLBM kahan se aye ga??? Kahin DF-21 ki bt tou nhe kr rhe???

Im sure a SLBM is just round the corner for us
Are you sure about your statment??? I mean abhi SLCM tou aya nhe SLBM kahan se aye ga??? Kahin DF-21 ki bt tou nhe kr rhe???
 
so what do you personally think pakistan will opt for then?
Unless the economy takes a miraculous turn with no risk of turning back, I think the PN will opt for a solution from CSOC, just as it had with the submarines. I just hope it's a new-generation platform, not another version of the F-22P, which is from Type-053H3.
 
Unless the economy takes a miraculous turn with no risk of turning back, I think the PN will opt for a solution from CSOC, just as it had with the submarines. I just hope it's a new-generation platform, not another version of the F-22P, which is from Type-053H3.
i find the type 54a a good ship a good size with a decent punch. what about something like the Israeli saar5 . a slightly scaled up version of the azmat fac with a umkhonto vls coupled with the smart-s radar. or remove the fm-90 with the umkhonto vls from the f22p
 
unless if you ask nicely.
What you mean by that...ASK NICELY...it gives me a good laughter....:rofl:

More on topic as per my best knowledge all the future P.N's options will be from China or USA...and i have strong reasons for that...Economic...
 
What you mean by that...ASK NICELY...it gives me a good laughter....:rofl:

More on topic as per my best knowledge all the future P.N's options will be from China or USA...and i have strong reasons for that...Economic...
the germans have never had a good perspective of your country. hence why you dont have 3 type 214's. they put harsh agreements on some of the equipment and was very expensive and they did not care about building them in karachi. they have recently warmed up to pakistan . i think their defence minister visited your coas last year. but still its very expensive and dont expect to get the good stuff from them.

the usa blocked the transfer of frigates and cutters to Pakistan you can forget them, china and possibly turkey.
 
the germans have never had a good perspective of your country.
How you know please give back up sources for your nonsense claims. This is for your info we have excellent relations with Germany and they can provide what ever we want to purchase but the real problem is money + our choice.
 
How you know please give back up sources for your nonsense claims. This is for your info we have excellent relations with Germany and they can provide what ever we want to purchase but the real problem is money + our choice.
you had money to buy the 3 type 214's why did you not go for them?
germany's relation with packets was bad after 2001, but were very good during the cold war. in fact when the Berlin wall was taken down a small part of the wall was sent to pakistan along with german intelligence officers as a gift to hamid gul the then isi chief. again now its cooling down. the west needs pakistan to stabilize Afghanistan.
 

Back
Top Bottom