The case against Hafiz Saeed

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    And why majority of the world would stay against it?
    (Please dont give answers like world hate us because we are nuclear power)
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    I don't give a toss quite frankly :coffee:
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    oh Really... then Why don't GoP decorate LeT with Nishan-e-pakistan.. I think it is long due to them for their service.
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    This is one of those events that are nose deep in disinformation and misinformation. Do not trust the Indian version of what happened in Mumbai, don't even believe what the official Pakistani side has to say. Just remember that it was a short lived successful operation for India.

    Oh the things governments can do to their own people. A pish posh group like LeT infiltrating India via boat and assaulting one of the best defended Indian cities...LOL GTFO
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    So you mean to say this is creditable that Pakistan is not involved because "I said so"
    RAW is involved in Pakistan because "I said so"
    Indian media is bad because "I said so"
    Indians are bad because "I said so"
    CIA is involved because "I said so"
    Mossad is involved because "I said so"

    By the way on what authority you are giving these statements. The voice of Pakistan is GOP. If you have problem kick them first. If they are competent why to blame India.
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    You preety much hit the nail on the head there sunshine.
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    LeT did do it - you are confusing JuD with LeT.

    Also, the LeT is banned in Pakistan as a terrorist organization.
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    Rehman Malik apparently raised the issue with the head of the CIA:



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    From a few days ago, but essentially the same arguments, in slightly more detail:

    Not enough evidence yet to implicate Saeed: Pakistan

    Nirupama Subramanian

    If he is bailed out by Pakistan court, it should be accepted by India: Rehman Malik


    ISLAMABAD: Hafiz Saeed is under investigation for his alleged role in the Mumbai attacks, Pakistan said on Saturday, but also underlined that there was not yet enough evidence to implicate him in the case or arrest him, and that it would not be rushed into acting against him on Indian “dictation.”

    The Pakistan government also briefed Indian High Commissioner Sharat Sabharwal on its investigations into the Mumbai attacks. The Foreign Office later handed over a dossier containing an update on the investigations, along with a demand for additional information from New Delhi on certain aspects of the case.

    The effort seemed aimed at positioning and preparing the ground for the Foreign Secretaries and Foreign Ministers’ meetings on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York later this month.

    Interior Minister Rehman Malik told a press conference here that Pakistan was pursuing the leads provided by India on Hafiz Saeed. “I have not rejected the leads. I would like to announce that Hafiz Saeed is being investigated. He is included in the investigations. He is under investigation,” Mr. Malik said, promising “if there is evidence against [him] during our investigations, I assure you, he will not get out of the clutches of law.”

    He appeared to distance Pakistan’s federal government from the two cases filed against Mr. Saeed under the Anti-Terrorism Act in Faisalabad earlier this week. These cases had been registered by the Punjab government, which was also carrying out the investigations, Mr. Malik said, adding that he had asked the provincial government for a report on the cases.

    Mr. Malik, who briefed the Indian envoy earlier, said the information provided by New Delhi about Mr. Saeed’s alleged involvement in the Mumbai attacks was mainly by way of statements from the accused on trial in India — Ajmal ‘Kasab,’ Fahim Ansari and Sabahuddin.

    A court would not accept these statements, Mr. Malik said, stressing the point that the Pakistani judiciary was free, and India must respect the decisions made by the courts in this country. “If Hafiz Saeed has been bailed out by my court, it should be accepted by India,” Mr. Malik said. “We are a sovereign state. We can be given information, but we cannot take dictation.”

    The Minister said Pakistan had already done a lot towards bringing seven arrested suspects in the case to trial. In- camera proceedings against the seven were held in an anti-terorrism court in Rawalpindi’s Adiala jail on Saturday. Mr. Malik disclosed that the judge announced he would frame charges against the suspects at the next hearing scheduled for September 26.

    The Hindu : Front Page : Not enough evidence yet to implicate Saeed: Pakistan
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    NEW YORK: Pakistan does not want to take to court a "half-baked" case against JuD chief Hafiz Mohd Saeed, blamed by India for masterminding Mumbai
    attacks, and needs "legally tenable" evidence against him, foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said today hours ahead of crucial talks with his Indian counterpart S M Krishna.

    "We will certainly not hesitate for taking action (against Saeed), but we got to have a case which is legally tenable because if we take a case into court which is a half-baked case and if the court sets him free, you'll say 'collusion', 'drama'. No we are not in a mood to collude with terrorists," Qureshi told a news channel.

    He was responding to a question about Pakistan not taking action against Saeed, also founder of the LeT, despite being provided with evidence by India against him.

    When pointed out that Saeed has not been arrested though two FIRs were filed against him for inciting people to wage 'jehad' and seeking donations for the same, Qureshi said: "That's for us to decide and that's for the legal process in Pakistan to decide.

    "There are procedures that you have to follow. We have a very independent judiciary. Thank God for that. You know how cumbersome legal procedures are but we will not be soft on anyone who wants to move out of line of government policy."

    Link : Pak doesn't want 'half baked' case against Saeed: Qureshi- Politics/Nation-News-The Economic Times
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    Sir india searching a video tape in which hafiz saeed playing cricket with kasab and other fellas. That would make it full baked cake. I mean pakistan wants hard evidence like saeed with kasab in a video. For pakistan thats the HARD EVIDENCE. very clever indeed. This hafiz saeed sended kasab and other dead fellas who came in india and killed many innocent womens, mens and kids. Even the 6 months old baby whose mother too died front of her. Hafiz saeed has hard evidence. Pak should treat his 3rd degree torture and NOT KISS him. Only good beating will make mr terrorist hafiz sh*T And then he will start telling everything but it not gonna happen. Hafiz saeed has many secrets of pakistan. If pak hurt him then pak in trouble by hafiz saeed. i dont think we should even discuss about 26/11. Am fedup of it and so does strong 1.1 billion indians. Infact i wont even post reply in this thread. Its useless topic. Pakistan aint gonna change and thats fact. Sayonara.
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    The same goes for you, you Indians need to change your hostile behaviour towards Pakistanis as if we are responsible for all the ills that happens in India.

    India needs to act more responsibly and stop making false dramas against Pakistanis. Pakistanis are already making huge sacrifices against terrorists aided and abetted by India.
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    The Professor Of Terror:Tehelka - India's Independent Weekly News Magazine


    Excerpts from the article.. I agree that this is all based on Kasab's testimony only so not in itself enough evidence to implicated Saeed
    Some information on his past, although it is pertinent to note that he was born in 1950 so he probably heard most of these stories