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Tesla's Model S P85D is so good it broke Consumer Reports' rating system | The Verge

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How good is Tesla's Model S P85D? Insanely good, says Consumer Reports, with the electric sedan performing better than any other car the magazine has reviewed and breaking its rating system in the process. "The Tesla initially scored 103 in the Consumer Reports' Ratings system, which by definition doesn’t go past 100," said Consumer Reports. "The car set a new benchmark, so we had to make changes to our scoring to account for it." The P85D had to make do with a score of 100 instead.

Part of the reason for the record-breaking score is the P85D's "insane mode," which Tesla incorporated into the all-wheel-drive car to bring its acceleration up to the levels of the world's greatest supercars. As a result, the P85D was the fastest car ever tested by Consumer Reports, reaching 60 mph from a standstill in just 3.5 seconds. (Slightly faster times of 3.2 seconds have also been recorded.) There are other cars on the market that are faster, but Consumer Reports notes that because the P85D achieved these speeds while still being "ridiculously energy efficient" it earned itself the top score.

The Model S P85D is a glimpse into the future

"This is a glimpse into what we can expect down the line, where we have cars with the performance of supercars and the comfort, convenience and safety features of a luxury car while still being extremely energy efficient," Jake Fisher, Consumer Report's head of automotive testing told Bloomberg. "We haven’t seen all those things before."

However, says the magazine, just because the car scored 100, it doesn't make it the perfect vehicle. Apart from the six-figure price tag and interior fittings that "aren't as opulent as other high-ticket automobiles," Consumer Reports reminds readers that driving an electric car is still logistically tricky, with journeys longer than 200 miles requiring extra planning. "That said," concludes the magazine, "the Tesla Model S P85D is an automotive milepost."

 
They had cashflow problems....Maybe still do, haven't followed up on Tesla for a while.

They sold about 20K cars last year and they have high startup costs (giga factory, worldwide dealerships, recharging stations)

When they start selling far more cars their costs will be spread out better.
 
They sold about 20K cars last year and they have high startup costs (giga factory, worldwide dealerships, recharging stations)

When they start selling far more cars their costs will be spread out better.

Their business plan was counting on a far higher oil price for years to come, but after the recent crash, it is much tougher for Tesla.
 
They sold about 20K cars last year and they have high startup costs (giga factory, worldwide dealerships, recharging stations)

When they start selling far more cars their costs will be spread out better.

So even after selling 20k heavily priced cars (cars in S-class, 7series, A8 price category), they're not making money....

Now don't argue with me that Tesla cars are not in the same class. The class doesn't matter. The only people who'll buy Tesla are the ones who have the money to buy Teslas. The ones who buy Teslas are the kind of people who have the money to buy the S-class, A8 and 7 series. Tesla will struggle with money, unless they bring out cheaper cars.

Their business plan was counting on a far higher oil price for years to come, but after the recent crash, it is much tougher for Tesla.

They were also counting on batter tech improving significantly. That didn't happen either.
 
They were also counting on batter tech improving significantly. That didn't happen either.

The new lithium deposition processes will increase capacities gradually, but it is their business plan that is in trouble, not the technology itself.
 
The new lithium deposition processes will increase capacities gradually, but it is their business plan that is in trouble, not the technology itself.

Well, their entire business plan was based on technology improving much faster than it did......But it's not improving as fast. As a result, Tesla's had to make that battery replacement thing and all....They originally made claims that there will be batteries that can be re-charged within minutes and last a lifetime etc etc......
 
I read somewhere that for every car they have sold, they invested 40k dollar in R&D. Cant w8 for the model X to come out do :D. I have high hopes for Tesla.
 
Their business plan was counting on a far higher oil price for years to come, but after the recent crash, it is much tougher for Tesla.

I'm sure the rising cost of oil was one of their major selling points. But they really were pushing the whole shebang of US getting tied up in Middle East wars simply due to reliance on foreign oil. They will probably do the shale oil is just bad for the environment.

But more likely they will push that electric is simply a natural progression over "dirty" oil no matter where it is from or what the cost. Stressing their car significantly outperforms a typical gas engine is their new selling mantra. (Which I don't recall when they first were selling them)
 
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Now don't argue with me that Tesla cars are not in the same class. The class doesn't matter. The only people who'll buy Tesla are the ones who have the money to buy Teslas. The ones who buy Teslas are the kind of people who have the money to buy the S-class, A8 and 7 series. Tesla will struggle with money, unless they bring out cheaper cars.

They were also counting on batter tech improving significantly. That didn't happen either.

His stated goal is to get gasoline cars off the road.
That can't be achieved by being only a luxury car maker.
He is working his way towards a -$30K car (model 3).

He however could simply license other companies to make those cheaper cars so Tesla doesn't have to do it themselves.
 
Tesla was never suppose to make a fortune with Model S. They were trying to show the technology that's available and move the market away from gas guzzlers.
people mentioning Mercedes, i hope you guys realize Mercedes does not make big money from its S-class. But it still remains their flagship because that's what they use to introduce new technology. Their money maker is C-class.

Tesla is doing the same. they started with the expensive Model S just because when they release their low cost model, people would be more tempted to buy a "relatively cheap" car from a luxury/high end maker, than a low end brand who happens to make a decent car.

His stated goal is to get gasoline cars off the road.
That can't be achieved by being only a luxury car maker.
He is working his way towards a -$30K car (model 3).

He however could simply license other companies to make those cheaper cars so Tesla doesn't have to do it themselves.

Tesla is working with Toyota to help make their hybrids, plus they also provide electric drive train for Mercedes smart car.
I'm sure more cooperation is in the pipeline
 

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