Taliban in 72 percent of Afghanistan: report

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  1. waraich66
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    Ask any retired Russian Gen. why they failed in Afghanistan ,he will tell you same story as American and NATO gen. are propagating in media these days , bad weather, hard tarren,drugs,war lords bla bla

    There is no Afghan talaban inside Pakistan already controlling 70% area of Afghanistan.
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    Pakistan's president says his country is fighting for its survival against the Taleban, whose influence he said has spread deep into the country.

    BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan 'in fight for survival'

    Now what? Taliban in control of 72% of Afghanistan and majority of Pakistan. Kudos to America and Pakistan. Enjoy the meal.
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    Problem is if they get control of afghanistan and pakistan they will also invite india and iran to join meal ,which are very much afriad of them .:lol:
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    Man, this Af-Pak thingy is becoming a danger to the whole region and beyond!
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    How is it becoming dangerous to the world??
    Unless u underrate the PAk army.
    Insha alah we will defeat them..The taliban is certainly not as strong as u claim it to be.Pak army is stronger..
    If only u guys would stop funding the terrorists like Beitullah
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    US and PA should understand that if they kill any innocient tribe men whole tribe and other tribes belong to jirga of that area start fighting with PA ,which is according to their tradition.Similar satutation is in SWAT , these 300 innocient girls killed in LAL MOSQUE belong to 300 families and minimum 50 or more tribes , so if jirga of that area declared Fatwa of WAR against GOP , they will continue fighting with out taking care of death toll.
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    Hes BSing about Pakistan. We live there remember, you don't see militants on the streets. Yes what I did notice in my recent trip (a few weeks ago) was that there was a huge police presence.

    So the Taliban are a problem no matter where you are in Pakistan but they don't have a physical presence. In Afghanistan they are ruling and governing 72% areas. What has America achieved? They were governing the majority areas before and they are still governing. They probably have a more legit government than Karzai.
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    Its true that they ve a more legitimate govt than the Karzai govt but unfortunately its an extremist govt that preaches violence..
    More unfortunate that pakistan recognised(along with SA n UAE) that govt of Mulah Omar overlooking the dangers that it poses to pakistan.
    What Amrica has achieved??Nothing..
    But its sill fighting..will it achieve something?? doubtful..
    Wat it seeks to achieve is peace which is impossible with the extremist taliban..
    So they r in a soup but they ve dragged us into it n thats the problem
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    Most non sense comment ever seen on this forum.

    If you right figures how many student girls killed during LAL MOSQUES army operation prove it through any refernce or link?
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    Three NATO troops killed in Afghanistan
    Updated at: 0715 PST, Thursday, March 05, 2009


    KABUL: Three Canadian soldiers were killed and two wounded in a bomb blast in southern Afghanistan, the Canadian defence ministry said Wednesday.

    The troops were on duty in Arghandab, northwest of Kandahar, when the explosive device hit March 3, the department said.

    "We are all thinking of the family and friends of our fallen comrades during this sad time, but are determined to continue working with our Afghan and international partners towards a better future for the people of Afghanistan," the ministry said.

    The deaths take to 52 the number of international soldiers to lose their lives this year, most of them in attacks, according to the icasualties.org website that tracks casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    There are about 70,000 international troops based in the country, supporting the government of President Hamid Karzai in a battle against a Taliban-led insurgency, which is most intense in the southern and eastern parts of Afghanistan.

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    Washington may grant Pakistan additional funds to fight militants

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    The U.S. has given Pakistan at least $12 billion in military and economic aid to stem Taliban and Al Qaeda militants in that country’s tribal areas. But Washington is now facing an ever stronger Taliban in the region, and is considering another financial request from Islamabad.

    Congressional aids and Obama’s administration are reportedly working on a $5 billion package, and President Obama says he will make an announcement about Pakistan soon. Our correspondent in Islamabad, Masroor Hausen, takes a look at the financial side of the war on terror.
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    Taliban poised at the gates of Kabul
    Published: March 13, 2009


    KABUL (Agencies) - A top Taliban commander has said his fighters are poised and ready to attack Kabul and could strike virtually anywhere in the city.
    It would be tempting to put this down to Taliban propaganda except one of Kabul’s top cops is saying the same thing.

    “We are working on a security strategy for the city and if we don’t get it right, they [the Taliban] can attack at any minute, at any hour, any time,” Taliban Commander Muhammad Daud Amin, in charge of securing the Kabul district that includes the Presidential Palace and many government ministries, told CNN on Thursday.

    Proof of the menacing threat came just last month when eight Taliban fighters, bristling with weapons and suicide vests, burst into three government buildings in the centre of Kabul.

    Police and security forces managed to kill all the attackers before they could detonate their vests, but 20 people were killed and dozens were wounded.
    “Staff... staff,” Amin pointed to pictures of dead Justice Ministry staff from his evidence book of the crime scene of last month’s attack. “Police went looking for the Taliban and they went after them inside. We are convinced the Taliban wanted to hold ministry employees hostage.” said Amin.

    Meanwhile, in an interview with PBS television, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates said any political reconciliation with elements of the Afghan insurgency must be under terms set by the Kabul government. He said most insurgencies eventually are resolved through a political settlement. He said there were some fanatical members of the Taliban that had no interest in reconciliation.
    “There are elements of the Taliban that are absolutely irreconcilable and frankly will have to be killed.


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    US, UN to give Pakistan $148m for refugees

    GENEVA/WASHINGTON: The UN High Commission for Refugees and the United States on Friday approved $140 million and $8 million respectively for Pakistani villages hosting Afghan refugees to help them cope in exchange for letting the displaced people stay for nearly four more years. Increased violence along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border had hindered efforts to repatriate nearly two million Afghans, leading to the tentative agreement announced by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR). To compensate for hosting the refugees until the end of 2012, communities in Balochistan and North West Frontier Province would be funded to upgrade roads, schools, farms, and medical clinics. Urban areas in Sindh and Punjab would also be compensated under the assistance plan, which UNHCR spokesman William Spindler said represented "support from the international community to Pakistan for hosting one of the largest refugee populations in the world". "The programme... will improve social cohesion and local economies through community development and help people rebuild their livelihoods," he said. "Projects will focus on boosting employment prospects, reviving agricultural and irrigation systems, repairing farm to market roads, improving crop and livestock production, and marketing products." US President Barack Obama approved the $8 million assistance package for the refugees to meet ‘unexpected and urgent refugee and migration needs’, the White House said in a statement. reuters/pr

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    This money will just land up in some corrupt politicians pockets. These refugees need to be kicked out, not taken care of.
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    "These refugees need to be kicked out, not taken care of."

    That is the prerogative of your government. However distasteful it would appear, you have that right-clearly.

    "Distasteful", though, is important. The announcement of expulsion will create a furor that likely won't reflect well on your nation. The manner in which it would be handled will add to the effect.

    Cameras everywhere documenting the forcible removal of these people from their miserable existance and launching them into the great unknown. And how would that go? No matter how gently approached, the footage would be heart-rending nonetheless. Us "heartless" Americans would suddenly find our hearts and self-righteous outrage would spill forth. So too the rest of the western world.

    Finally, of course, is the question of what if it all goes wrong? Battles in the camps from groups of insurgents who've made these areas their specific mailing addresses, or riots by the displaced. All ugly to an already ugly event.

    I think you're correct. I think you should lead this effort. DRIVE it, in fact. I think that the logical thing is a two-tracked approach that insists that the GoA identify locations and resources to re-establish refugee services inside Afghanistan and that they do so immediately.

    Pakistan should screen refugees to separate those who may legitimately somehow be Pakistani citizens from those who need to leave...and begin transferring such as facilities come on line in Afghanistan.

    If they are Afghanistan's citizens, then so too should they be Afghanistan's ultimate responsibility. The U.N., E.U. and America should help but those Afghani citizens need to be returned.

    The more orderly and compassionate this is done, the better for everybody concerned.

    As to the "72% control", no. No. No. No. Those lands are "contested"-not controlled and the map makes this clear to anybody reading the legend. The taliban, no matter how proficient, haven't yet proved to be the masters of ISAF in battle. We control the ground where we move. They backfill in the absence of adequate forces but in no way control ground in immutable fashion against any determined effort by us otherwise.

    It's that simple. Afghanistan is hardly in good shape. Cheering for it's demise while distorting the facts from the sidelines, though, only diminishes the credibility of this perspective.

    Shabnamah defines the yin-yang struggle most accurately IMV.