Should Russia invade Ukraine now and do a regime change?

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by Superboy, Oct 13, 2014.

yes or no?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. Superboy

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    Like the US invaded Iraq in 2003? Ukraine's air power has been wiped out in Donbas and at least half of Ukraine's armored fighting vehicles and artillery have been wiped out in Donbas. Ukraine only has only about 200 tanks left.
     
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    Ukraine is quite poor , not sure why they even bother living as Ukranian , Russia is more rich and offers cheap fuel and gas jobs and space program

    Culturally Ukraine is also close to Russians , I think their leaders should reconcile with Russia rather have negative relations

    We want to see a peaceful Ukraine and Russia , and have good ties with both nations
     
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    I heard the Kiev regime is hoarding enriched plutionium.
     
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    Yeah, go for it Russia... If Russia's economy that is, can withstand a 10-year long quagmire in Ukraine.
     
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    once russia tried to invade afghanistan. many ppl went to stop them right there so it won't reach .... india i'd say. since it is not india.. go russia go for it. we're chameleons.
     
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    Russia never invaded Afghanistan. It was the USSR defending the Republic of Afghanistan from US backed Taliban.

    Democratic Republic of Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    lol u live in russia boy. don' t say this in front of zaid hamid.
     
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    Ah'hmm, from the source YOU posted...

    "Amin (General Secretary of Afghanistan's Communist Party and leader of the country.) remained trustful of the Soviet Union until the very end, despite the deterioration of official relations with the Soviet Union. When the Afghan intelligence service handed Amin a report that the Soviet Union would invade the country, and topple him, Amin claimed the report was a product of imperialism. His view can be explained by the fact that the Soviet Union, after several months, decided to send troops into Afghanistan. Contrary to normal Western beliefs, Amin was informed of the Soviet decision to send troops into Afghanistan. Amin was killed by Soviet forces on 27 December 1979."

    Not the Taliban, not some western puppet, but the head of Afghanistan’s communist party.

    Operation Storm-333 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This is a list of all of the top commanders of the Mujahideen forces that fought the Soviets.

    1. Ahmad Shah Massoud, (closest US ally)-fought Taliban and was assassinated by al-Qaeda two days before 9-11-2001 attacks on America.

    2. Abdul Haq-fought Taliban was captured and executed by them.

    3. Ismail Khan-fled to Iran after failed assassination attempt by the Taliban. Taliban official claimed responsibility for the attempt.

    4. Mullah Naquib-fought Taliban and tried brokering a deal to have Taliban fighters in his region lay down their arms. Retired to Pakistan with health problems.

    5. Abdul Rahim Wardak-fought Taliban after Soviet withdrawal. Became National Army Chief of Staff. Went into exile with Taliban takeover. Candidate for Afghani presidency in 2014.

    6. Fazal Haq Mujahidid-became interior minister after Soviet withdrawal. Assassinated by Taliban Pakistan allies in 1997.

    7. Burhanruddin Rabbani-served briefly as President of Afghanistan after Soviet Withdrawal and American intervention. Assassinated by Taliban on 20 September 2011.

    8. Muhammad Asif Mushsini-After Soviet withdrawal he joined the Northern Alliance to fight against the Taliban.

    Of the top Mujahideen commanders who fought the Soviet empire's invasion, only two, Abdullah Azzam & Jalaluddin Haqqani became members of al-Qaeda and the Taliban, respectively.
     
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    why should they ?
     
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    And it would be further evidence of how Russia and US are the same but because its not the US the poor parts of the world will cheer.
     
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    I'd love to answer yes, but ... It's exactly what the United States wants - to draw Russia into full-scale war and between the times to force the European Union to sign a trade agreement that will kill the economy in Europe, but will save the economy of the United States.
    Let Russia helps with instructors, some equipment and humanitarian aid to civilians. I think it's wining option.
     
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    That's interesting logic; if Russia invades and occupies it's neighbour....it is the USA "drawing Russia into a full-scale war". Not the fact that Russia would be the aggressor nation, but somehow it winds up being America's plan all along. :lol:

    It's ALWAYS America's fault! That saves so much time thinking.
     
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    Yes because it is USA that started the regime change with nazis in power now and tries to threaten russia to go full scale NATO action in Ukraine.
    US is the evil empire it was talking about through the never ended cold war.
     
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    Ah, another Kool-Aid drinker. I guess it wouldn't do any good to remind you that the "Nazis" that removed Viktor Yanukovych were his own political party that held the majority in parliament that voted for his removal! That's right, not the CIA, not the opposition. His own party! His party spokesman saying on removing Yanukovych,

    "The party and its members "strongly condemn the criminal orders that led to human victims, an empty state treasury, huge debts, shame before the eyes of the Ukrainian people and the entire world."

    But I'm sure even that was all some CIA plot. Everything in the world is. :azn:
     
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    We can really blame only someone who actually can commit a crime. Obviously, to blame Latvia or Uganda in making unconstitutional coup in Ukraine is silly, right? Especially because American officials did not conceal that the coup was plot and implemented with their participation.
    The Nazis and the radicals came to power in Ukraine with direct support and coordination of the United States, as it was in the other "color revolutions." Now the real government of Ukraine - the Americans from the embassy, as well as instructors.
    Admit it - plan is decent and beauty. You make a revolution, start armed suppression of those who are against the illegal authorities. Bloodshed and genocide of the Russian population begins. Russia intervenes, Europe is frightened. And then you come in on a white horse for "saving Europe from the bloodthirsty Russian bear." Europe and Russia in the lurch, USA -calculate profits.
     
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