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Schiebel Drone on the new German F125 type, 7,000 tonne frigate

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https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch.../Was-die-F125-zum-Stolz-der-Marine-macht.html

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I don't think this picture shows a Schiebel drone. Rather, I think it is a Bell Jet Ranger helicopter

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Also, I'm not convinced the ship is an German F125 (can't locate that tripod mast and satcom dome)

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This drone is never coming to us , please close this thread wasting thread space for nothing.
Uhm, there are plenty of equipment items being discussed in various threads that will never come to Pakistan....

You are right :tup:

The rotor assembly is different
It is probably the helicopter that shot the video footage shown on that website.
 
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And why do u think that? Due to restricted sale policy of manufacturing country?
There are no restrictions from Austria.

I can see a very formidable role in all three services, but...............

I don't think this picture shows a Schiebel drone. Rather, I think it is a Bell Jet Ranger helicopter

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Also, I'm not convinced the ship is an German F125 (can't locate that tripod mast and satcom dome)

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@Penguin Have a look at the video, I could be wrong but this could be firescout.
 
Also, I'm not convinced the ship is an German F125 (can't locate that tripod mast and satcom dome)

You have deep insight into subject however, just wanted to share this what I found in video and other observations w.r.t. German F125.

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http://navalanalyses.blogspot.com/2016/05/baden-wurttemberg-class-frigates-of.html


The F125 class has the non-rotating multi-function Airbus Group TRS-4D/NR (Non Rotating) Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) C-band radar version with two fixed arrays on the forward radar mast and two on the rear mast. The radar works using the technology of electronic beam scanning (E-Scan), which is deployed for both conventional, mechanically rotating aerials and immovably mounted radar aerial panels. Four aerial panels are distributed between two ship’s masts, each carrying two panels. Due to the real-time electronic control of the beam, this radar can carry out several reconnaissance tasks at the same time. For example, it can do a long-range scan of the sea and airspace while simultaneously concentrating on tracking individual targets. In comparison to conventional radars it thus achieves a significantly higher surveillance and detection efficiency and reliability. The radar’s performance is essentially based on numerous transmitter and receiver modules in the aerial, which are made from materials especially suitable for high frequencies. The radar offers three fundamental modes: Surveillance, Self-Defense and Sector (see table for performances). The maximum range of the radar is up to 250km, up to 14km for small surface targets and up to 100km for maritime patrol aircrafts. It can track up to 1,000 targets.
 
There are no restrictions from Austria.

I can see a very formidable role in all three services, but...............


@Penguin Have a look at the video, I could be wrong but this could be firescout.
No. It's a regular Bell Jetranger (model 206). The initial RQ-8A version was based on the Schweizer 330, while the enhanced MQ-8B was derived from the Schweizer 333. The larger MQ-8C Fire Scout variant is based on the Bell 407. Plus, the USN is currently the only operator of the Northrop Grumman MQ-8 Firescout.

RQ-8A
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MQ-8B
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MQ-8C
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The one in the video sports the common finish/livery, with colored upper-sides and nose and white lower-sides and belly. It is not a military craft, let alone MQ-8C. While the Siebel Camcopter is a small rotary wing UAV, the MQ-8C is a full size helicopter turned into a drone. It has a four blade rotor. The craft in the video has a 2-blade rotor

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_MQ-8_Fire_Scout#Operators
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_MQ-8C_Fire_Scout

Bell 206 Jet Ranger / Long Ranger
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_206

Bell 407
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_407
 
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Another use could be, that since PA has started using Laser guided arty shells, this could very well carry a laser designator.

Secondly, it is dual use, you can load it with missiles as well, the advantage it has over other drones is that it does not need a runway.

That indeed is the moon.

Best Regards

Could be good for Battalion / Brigade level commanders specially in Mountain terrain.

PN currently uses these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Insitu_ScanEagle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMT_Luna_X-2000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIDS_Uqab

ScanEagle at least can be used (and is used) from a ship's flight deck (not sure about the other two)
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How effective Scan Eagle can be for PN?
 
How effective Scan Eagle can be for PN?
By the looks of it, you'ld need a fairly large flight deck for the 'catcher' i.e. you could possibly use it from your helicopter capable supply vessels
 
By the looks of it, you'ld need a fairly large flight deck for the 'catcher' i.e. you could possibly use it from your helicopter capable supply vessels

PN is using it from it's ships which all have helipad but what this UAV adds to PN ops capability?
 
PN is using it from it's ships which all have helipad but what this UAV adds to PN ops capability?

Key points:

  • It is relatively lowcost (US$3.2 million [2006])
  • It's small (1.4 m length, 3.1 m wingspan, mass 20 kg) > portable, launched using a pneumatic launcher and recovered using the "Skyhook" retrieval system, and can be deployed from a variety of platforms + more difficult to detect
  • It allows autonomous surveillance in the battlefield
  • It can operate up to 80 knots (92 mph; 150 km/h), with an average cruising speed of 48 knots (55 mph; 89 km/h)
  • It's relatively long flight-endurance (over 20 hours).
  • It has an integrated communications system with a range of over 62 miles (100 km)
  • It carries a stabilized electro-optical (day) and/or infrared (night) camera on a lightweight inertial stabilized turret system
  • It was tested with ImSAR NanoSAR, the world's smallest Synthetic Aperture Radar, to provide high quality real-time ground imaging through adverse weather conditions or other battlefield obscurants
  • It can be controlled from aerial platforms, e.g. AEWC aircraft or V-22
In 2014, Insitu began development of the Flying Launch and Recovery System (FLARES) to launch and recover the ScanEagle without the need to transport and assemble the launch catapult and recovery crane. It consists of second, quadrotor UAV that carries the ScanEagle vertically and releases it into forward flight. For recovery, the quadrotor hovers trailing a cable that it captures, as it would the cable from the SkyHook crane. FLARES incorporates the VTOL advantages of launch and recovery in confined areas, as well as eliminating the rail and crane equipment, with the flying efficiency of a fixed-wing body. Low-rate production is scheduled for late 2016.

General characteristics
  • Crew: none on-board
  • Payload: 7.5 lb (3.4 kg)
  • Length: 5.1–5.6 ft (1.55–1.71 m)
  • Wingspan: 10.2 ft (3.11 m)
  • Height: ()
  • Empty weight: 30.9–39.68 lb (14–18 kg)
  • Loaded weight: 39.7 lb (18 kg)
  • Max. takeoff weight: 48.5 lb (22 kg)
  • Powerplant: 1 × 2-stroke 3W piston engine, 1.5 hp (1.12 kW)
Performance
Avionics
  • High resolution, day/night camera and thermal imagery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Insitu_ScanEagle

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