Russia blocks sale of engines for Sino-Pak fighter jets

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  1. Choppers

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    Russia blocks sale of engines for Sino-Pak fighter jets

    Russia has blocked the sale of 100 RD-93 engines to China for FC-1, the joint Sino-Pak fighter, which could emerge as a rival for its MiG-29 fighter in the global markets, according to a report today.

    "The new contract with China for the sale of 100 RD-93 engines has not been signed," Kommersant reported quoting its sources in the military-industrial complex.

    The deal for the supply of second batch of 100 RD-93 manufactured by Moscow-based Chernyshev Machine building Plant for FC-1 (Pakistani version JF-17) was to be signed with China back in May, however, CEO of RAC MiG and Sukhoi Aircraft Holding Mikhail Pogosyan has torpedoed it, Kommersant business daily reported.

    "One of the sources confirmed that Pogosyan has virtually blocked the deal with China by writing to the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) and Rosoboronexport (ROE) state arms exporter that FC-1 is a direct rival of Russian MiG-29 fighters in several foreign markets," the daily writes noting that Russian and Chinese fighters are in the race for an Egyptian contract.

    "I am not against the re-export of individual technologies, but it should be done in agreement with the producers of finished-product, so that this re-export does not damage their interests," Pogosyan told Kommersant.

    "Re-export is allowed by the government decision and we don't have a practice of consulting producers of finished products.

    Under the inter-governmental bilateral agreement in November 2007 China was allowed to re-export RD-93 as part of FC-1 fighter to Egypt, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia and Algeria," press service of state arms exporting monopoly ROE was quoted as saying by the daily.

    The Kommersant reminds that Chernyshev Plant a part of United Engine Corporation has supplied 100 RD-93 engines to China under the USD 238 million deal signed in 2005.

    A framework agreement for the sale of 500 such engines for the Sino-Pak joint fighter was also signed at that time and Beijing was ready to buy up to 1,000 engines in over USD 3 billion, if Russia agreed to offer its modernised version with greater thrust.

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    Care Cup... c(_)... We will get the engines anyway... Just wait and see! :D
     
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    Russian combat aircraft makers fear competition with China​


    20:07 05/07/2010

    MOSCOW, July 5 (RIA Novosti) - Russian aircraft makers MiG and Sukhoi have spoken against the sale of RD-93 jet engines to China citing the threat of strong competition from cheaper Chinese models of fighter aircraft.

    Russia's state arms exporter Rosoboronexport planned to sign a contract with China on the delivery of 100 RD-93 engines for FC-1 fighters, which are direct competitors of the famed MiG-29 Fulcrum aircraft.

    Mikhail Pogosyan, the head of the MiG and Sukhoi corporations, said the re-export of technologies must be approved by the original manufacturers to avoid unfair competition.

    The FC-1 Xiaolong (Fierce Dragon) is a single-engine multi-role fighter aircraft developed jointly by China and Pakistan. It is designated as JF-17 Thunder by Pakistan.

    A Russian aircraft industry source said the FC-1 is inferior to MiG-29 in performance, but sells for about $10 million, while the price of a MiG-29 is about $35 mln.

    MiG-29s are currently competing with FC-1s in an Egyptian tender on the delivery of 32 fighters. In addition, Egypt has launched negotiations with Pakistan on the licensed production of FC-1 aircraft.

    Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) approved the re-export of RD-93 engines to Egypt as part of the FC-1 fighter package in November 2007.

    Rosoboronexport has said a decision to allow the re-export of technology could be made only by the government, and the manufacturers have never been consulted on the issue.

    Russian weapons manufacturers are also facing increasing competition from China on other arms markets.

    Russian S-300 and Chinese HQ-9 air defense systems have been competing in a Turkish tender since 2007.

    Russian and Chinese armored personnel carriers competed in an Indonesian tender in 2007.

    In 2009, Myanmar chose Russian Mig-29s over Chinese J-10s and FC-1s.
    Russia has also accused China of producing its own copycat versions of some Russian-made weaponry, including the Su-27SK fighter jet, in violation of intellectual property agreements
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    Russian combat aircraft makers fear competition with China | Defense | RIA Novosti
     
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    How mature, you represent your country well! :welcome:
     
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    THE OTHER OPTION Guizhou WS-13
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    RUSSIA - WISE DECISION
     
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    Delaying the delivery is still a success for Russian Aviation industry. They are just trying to beat the competition by delaying the process. At the end of the day they will scumb to $$$$ once they keep the chinese competition out of competitive market.

    So far a good stand by the Russians:chilli:
     
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    Yea, 3 billion dollars gone from a country.
    JF-17 competing with MIG 29? LOL that proves how good MIG 29 really is....so much for our INDIANS.......:p
     
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    Its pretty obvious a business decision, Russians are trying to protect their own Industries from more competetion.

    There is nothing with what they are doing.
     
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    Both good and bad for both India and Pakistan
     
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    Good decision by Russia (if the news is true)
     
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    How does it qualify to be compared to Mig-29.:hitwall:

    Before the Indians, you are the one who compared them to begin with. we can't compare JF-17 with Mig-29, thats plain and simple :pop:
     
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    great news...i want this...this will help us to get involved in R&D in this field too....Insha Allah soon we will see some new engines MADE IN PAKISTAN....
     
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    All the very best. :tup:
     
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    fc-1 is inferior to mig-29..but big thing is that price of FC-1 is only $10 million,it's impossible.
     
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    Don't worry about the engines... We will get them, in the meantime let them have their ballroom moment. We will have ours! ;)
     
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