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Pakistan Air Force's acquisitions for future

Someone got too choosy, and acquisitions dont come overnight. It takes time to look at options, negotiate strings etc. At one point it got close to the Rafale and Eurofighter but the strings(or the price in the Rafale's case as reportedly the EF was costing less than the Rafale to the PAF..odd) ruled them out in 2003-4. The J-10 was looked at but then the J-10B was seen and it was decided to wait, and focus on Air Defense upgrades.. after all; if not for Kamra...the PAF would have had 8 AWACS systems of which 4 were really really good pieces of tech. There are also smaller local thingamachiks going on that usually slip under the radar unless you know where to look.

As for the PAF, from what I gathered and without over sentimental or emotive views.. It is still capable of an offensive attack and at this stage it can still deal a blow through capabilities that are still not on papers. A lot of it is paranoia because each force generates intelligence on one another to see what is what and each plays a game of bluff in terms of their cards. That doesn't mean it wont be eventually walked over by its primary threat in the east, but its still capable of dealing enough damage to certain key assets that would have set-backs equivalent of a decade.
That being said, as its primary threat upgrades and the PAF barely keeps up; this set-back giving capability will reduce to 5 to 2 to zero over the next coming years. If you ask a PAF officer today, what is opinion of the IAF is(when they are not in fighter pilot mode or otherwise)..they will(and do) say that "we can take them on and bruise them well.. but there is no longer going to be a war with India..the chances are slim to zero", and that should tell you plainly what the dynamics between the two nations is now.

Still wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a F-16. What's the TTSL on them (air-frame and engine) and the JFTs?

Btw does this mean that @Armstrong can no longer threaten to pop a PGM into my room anymore? :sick:
 
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J-31 is the new acquisition thing. I am sure PAC would be a part of it as in 2005-2007 we all have heard that PAF is working with Chinese on 5th Generation.
really ??? when can we expect them to be operational !!!
 
MI 28 and SU 35 we all need and bring all indian armed forces we can crush their latest machines from USA and israel in few hours SU 35 and Mi 28 all we need along side what we have we can be devistating oppnent
 
MI 28 and SU 35 we all need and bring all indian armed forces we can crush their latest machines from USA and israel in few hours SU 35 and Mi 28 all we need along side what we have we can be devistating oppnent

lolzzz and where are you going to bring MI 28 & Su 35 s owt of :omghaha:

well even if you get your hands on chinese copies of the same by then super sukois & FGFA would be flying in IAF colours with rafale maybe

and to counter the threat of MI 28 if ever u get them that is we will have Apaches & LCH in 3:1 ratio backed by the best Radar & AA force in asia say after Japan and israel :taz:
 
I am sure that the future force of PAF will be:
300+ JF-17
200+ J-31(will start inducting from 2018, may be will firstly replace F-16s block-52s which would be sell to any operators)
 
I am sure that the future force of PAF will be:
300+ JF-17
200+ J-31(will start inducting from 2018, may be will firstly replace F-16s block-52s which would be sell to any operators)

You ARE aware that a 5th gen fighter of any real quality would cost 5-6 times a JFT?
 
financial issue can be resolve though Saudi's help as they already support Pakistan armed forces in past.
2nd USA & allies is leaving Afghanistan it is right time to talk them about some surplus aircrafts
especially got some attack and transport helos like boeing ch-47 and ah-1w
 
You ARE aware that a 5th gen fighter of any real quality would cost 5-6 times a JFT?

Actually, if Pakistan can get it's finances and economy in order, then it can easily afford 100 J-31s (anymore would be way to expensive), but most people agree that Pakistan will most likely only buy a few squadrons of 5th gen fighters sometime around 2020-25, so say something like 54 fighters.
 
150 thunders (with an option of another 100)
may be some older EDA f-16s
J-10s only if we have money(unlikley in next 3 years may be after jf-17 program completed in 2019-2020)
some chinese AWECS yet to come
C-130s some refurbished if we are lucky

BY 2020
LIKELY
150 thunders
70+/- f-16s
80 mirages
50 f-7 PGs

best case scenrio
150-170 jf-17s
80 f-16s
50 j-10s
50 f-7 Pg
 

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