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^^^ According to news reports IAF getting satellite based early warning system to track missiles soon.


Silent, any details or news on PAF sensors?


Posted by Haider

U.S. company now owns highly advanced radar systems

By František Bouc
Staff Writer, The Prague Post
November 15th, 2006

The most formidable Czech military defensive tool — the Vera surveillance radar, which is the only system that can detect the "invisible" U.S. Stealth bomber — is now owned by Americans.

U.S. surveillance and flight tracking developer Rannoch Corporation has taken over ERA, the Pardubice-based company that developed Vera.

The deal took place in late October, but the daily Mladá fronta Dnes reported it Nov. 11.

"The ERA facilities are truly world-class," said Rannoch President Dave Ellison in an official statement. "We realize the potential of the combined teams to offer the most comprehensive and technically advanced solutions."

Defense Ministry representatives and east Bohemian regional officials were unaware of the development.

ERA Vice Chairman Milan Bernard confirmed the transaction, adding that ERA's management first wanted to notify the company's shareholders. The terms of the deal were not disclosed, but Bernard said that they would be announced later this month.

Defense Ministry spokesman Andrej ČÃ*rtek said the takeover was "a strictly private matter," and the government would not interfere in it.

ERA's Multilateration Surveillance System (MSS) is the best-selling technology around the globe for tracking civilian airplanes, and also the most advanced and proven wide-range multi-altitude radar. The company's main asset, however, is the radar system Vera.

Traditional radar sends a signal that bounces off a target, letting the radar operators know that something is there. Vera uses "passive location," a unique way of identifying a target without sending out that signal. The technology allows the radar system to be unidentifiable and thus unjammable.

Vera can simultaneously monitor up to 200 aircraft, and it is able to precisely determine their distance and altitude.

The ERA company has received orders for Vera from many countries, including Pakistan, China, Malaysia and Egypt.

The U.S. government has repeatedly expressed concern about the Czech radar being sold to countries it deems unfriendly.

As a result, ERA had to give up a planned transaction with China in 2004, after the Czech Defense Ministry banned the deal. So far, Vera radar has been sold to the United States and Estonia, and leased to Pakistan.

Vera is expected to become a key tool in NATO's new air control system, according to Marshall Billingsley, NATO's investment department director.
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Last edited by HAIDER; 05-12-2007 at 01:59 AM.

PAF now posses this system. It is an amazing system which is able to decipher even the type of aircraft flying. This means that PAF shall know of the entire raid package, the position and type of escorts etc. With this technology the element of surprise has been totally eliminated
 
Did Pakistan contract changed after US acquisition of Vera? If not, how long is the lease for. one thing baffles me, if the radar is so great, why Pakistan didnt buy it and just leased it? Cost of some terrible decision ?
 
Silent Hawk can you post a bigger picture of your avatar, has to do with subject at hand.
 
PAF's C4I SYSTEM

Silent Hawk can you post a bigger picture of your avatar, has to do with subject at hand.

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This picture of an advanced C4I system first appeared on a PAF calender. The picture shows a multi tier fully operational command and control system with digitized Maps and Required Data probably such as ADA states, Weather etc.

Very little is known about PAF's C4I program. The systems are said to have been designed and developed indigenously by a Vision Defence System.

Air Commodore Shahid Hamid Shigri is the main person credited with taking PAFs C4I system into the 21st century.

Company details of Vision Defence Systems obtained from a defence forum are given below:-


From a defence forum

The PAF C3I system is created by Vision Defence Systems (part of Shaheen Foundation). I am just copy-pasting some stuff from their website (no longer online) that will answer most of questions concering PAF's new C3I and future plans.

Company Profile

Pakistan was among the first few nations in the region to introduce automation in its national air defense systems. Late in the 1970s, American Hughes automation system along with Siemens Low Level Air Control System (SILLACS) was inducted into Pakistan Air Force. During 1990s, it was realized that these systems would not remain compatible to the emerging challenges of air defense and air space management. PAF started to look for replacement of these aging systems but the exorbitant costs of acquiring C3I systems and embargoes by the western world prohibited such an acquisition. Such a milieu sparked the initiative of indigenization in defense technologies especially those related to C4ISR. To meet the tri-service requirements in the field of C3I, Vision Defense Systems started developing Air Defence Command & Control systems in year 2001.


Company’s objective has been to develop an integrated Air Defence Environment that forms the framework for nationwide network centric C4ISR. This would integrate all the ground based and airborne sensors operated by Army, Navy, Air Force and Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) into a single network.

To grow from field-specific national leaders to regional and eventually global leaders in the fields of System integration, C4ISR solutions.

•To become the ultimate window for contemporary technological advancements and compatible upgrades in the Air Defence Environment.
•To encompass the vital requirements for the current C4I systems and network centric warfare solutions prevailing in the region.
•To develop an organizational culture where World-Class-Quality is simply bare minimum.

Accomplishments & Tasks

Phase I
In the early 2001 Pakistan Air Force tasked Shaheen Foundation to create C3I system for the Air Defense network. Shaheen Foundation created a team of engineers, system analysts, software developers and technicians and by mid of year 2004 delivered a state-of-the-art C3I system to the PAF. This not only replaced the aging Hughes & Siemens systems but also enhanced the operational capability of PAF manifolds. The highly skilled team of professionals has been grouped under the banner of Vision Defence Systems as a subsidiary of Shaheen Foundation.

This multi-tier Command & Control System has Fixed & Mobile Mission Control Centers (MCC) those are linked with the Sensor network all along the borders. MCCs are linked upwards with 04 Sector Operational Centers (SOC) and the Air Defence Operational Command (ADOC). SOCs and ADOC has fully functional backup C&CCs. High level of security and redundancy is an integral part of system architecture.


Phase II
During the second phase of the project, Vision Defence Systems is currently integrating the newly inducted radars and AWACS platforms into the Air Defence Network of PAF. This is envisaged to conclude by year 2010. VDS is also into the integration of Low Level Army Air Defence System (LAADS), Civil Aviation Authority’s Medium to High Level radars and ARGOS-73 radars operated by Pakistan Navy into the national Air Defence Environment. This would provide redundancy & enhanced capability of air space management for all the operators.


Phase III
In the next phase of development, air and space based communication, surveillance & reconnaissance assets would be integrated into the Joint Services C4ISR network.

Products & Services

Vision Defence Systems, Shaheen Foundation is the sole company in the region that has successfully designed, developed and delivered an advanced C3I system of this scale that is fully operational with the PAF.

Optimally utilizing your existing resources like sensors & media, Vision Defence Systems can provide state-of-the-art Mil Standard C3I solution that would be fully capable to meet Malaysian Joint Services operational requirements. The system architecture would be secure & scalable. Integrating other vital elements, the system may be upgraded to C4ISR network.

Vision Defence Systems can provide turnkey solution based on your defined requirements. All systems would be backed by warranties and full after sale support. Computer Based Training (CBT) modules for technical & operational staff have been developed for hands on & web based training needs. Air Defense Simulation Systems (ADSS) exclusively developed by VDS can train the technical and operational team on day-to-day challenges faced while managing the C3I environment.

Vision Defense Systems, with a strong history of over six years of breakthroughs, today stands apart in the Fields of C4ISR, system integration, and all related solutions to make its systems most effectual, Cost Effective, upward/downward Compatible.

Command and Control Center

Computerizing the Manual SOCs
Automation of Manual SOCs
Replacement of old ADOC

Integration of Allied System
CAAR (Civil Aviation Authority Radar) with SOC

Mission Control Centers (MCC)
GUI development
Data Communication Gateway
Multi Radar Tracker
Voice Communication System

Sensors Upgrade
Receiver Section Upgrade
Transmitter Upgrade
Antenna Upgrade


Mission Control Centres

•Communication Gateway
•Control Systems
◦Central Information Server (CIS)
■Recorder
■Re-player
◦Voice Recording System (VRS)
■Recorder
■Re-player
•Man Machine Interface Systems (MMI)
•Multi Radar Tracker (MRT)
■Correlation and Fusion
■Single Radar Tracker (SRT)
•Monitoring and Administrative Applications
■Network
■Applications
■Data
■Radars
■Tracker
■Consoles
•MCC Consoles
•Server Cabinets
 
PAF now posses this system. It is an amazing system which is able to decipher even the type of aircraft flying. This means that PAF shall know of the entire raid package, the position and type of escorts etc. With this technology the element of surprise has been totally eliminated

I think first you are talking about satellite for establish data links and now you put VERA passive sensor ???? :woot:

Just show me what PAF using to establish data link ?????
 
PAF now posses this system. It is an amazing system which is able to decipher even the type of aircraft flying. This means that PAF shall know of the entire raid package, the position and type of escorts etc. With this technology the element of surprise has been totally eliminated

man vera is a very old radar and out dated now. Russia developed much more powerful radar than vera. vera has very short range.
 
PAF's C4I SYSTEM



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This picture of an advanced C4I system first appeared on a PAF calender. The picture shows a multi tier fully operational command and control system with digitized Maps and Required Data probably such as ADA states, Weather etc.

Very little is known about PAF's C4I program. The systems are said to have been designed and developed indigenously by a Vision Defence System.

Air Commodore Shahid Hamid Shigri is the main person credited with taking PAFs C4I system into the 21st century.

Company details of Vision Defence Systems obtained from a defence forum are given below:-


Thank you. Which radars PAF integrated with this other than TPS-77?
 
an airforce's C&C structure is not just about the number of radars and their coverage...it is also about the flow of information...
The IAF is modernizing in lieu with the IA's F-INSAS soldier program to become a competent network-centric organization...
We have at least three dedicated C&C statellites
Infosys and TCS have been outsourced with laying down communication structures and command centres for the IAF...
 
man vera is a very old radar and out dated now. Russia developed much more powerful radar than vera. vera has very short range.

Vera is a passive sensor it has no power at all. Obviously you are firing in the dark.
 
Pakistan with China has plans for an array of SAR equipped Satellites

After successful launching and operation of BADR series of experimental satellites (BADR-1 and BADR-B) in the 1990s and early 2000s, SUPARCO now plans to launch high resolution remote sensing satellite system (RSSS) to meet the national and international user requirements in the field of satellite imagery.

A feasibility and system definition study was concluded in January 2007 which recommended the launch of a constellation of Optical and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) Satellites to ensure that the domestic and international user requirements are competitively met. In this respect the RFP for RSSS consultancy services was launched in July 2007. Launch of RFP for the manufacturing of the satellite is planned in the third quarter of year 2008.

RSSS is planned to be a progressive and sustainable program. Initially, SUPARCO plans to launch an optical satellite with payload of 2.5 meter PAN in 700 km sun-synchronous orbit by the end of year 2011, which will be followed by a series of optical and SAR satellites in future. Necessary infrastructure for ground control and image reception and processing is also planned to be setup.
 
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By the end of 2011, Pakistan plans to replace PAKSAT-1 with a new communication satellite PAKSAT-1R which will be manufactured exclusively for Pakistan. The satellite will support all conventional and modern Fixed Satellite Service (FSS) applications. The satellite will have a total of up to 30 transponders: 18 in Ku-band and 12 in C-band. To ensure high degree of reliability / availability of the system, two (02) fully redundant Satellite Ground Control Stations (SGCS) would be established in Karachi and Lahore, one to act as the Main and the other as Backup respectively.

This will contribute to our Armed Forces SATCOM abilities
 

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