Overseas Chinese: (The third-largest economy in the World)

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    Ok first illegal immigrants. The fact is that the S Koreans are much more illegal immigrants that the Chinese.

    Now you bring up plagiarism, conveniently forgetting that SK is the hell of Plagiarism.

    This is your proud country: Korea: republic of plagiarism

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    Illegal immigration Indian and Korean PLEASE GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY! :angry:
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    I think Mao's enter of Korea War killed no less Koreans. That's why Mao is hated by you. It's very natural.

    Also Mao supported NK, to make NK your pain in the @ss.

    And the problem is you still can do nothing against NK, even though NK blatantly shelled your island, killed your soldiers and sank you navy boat. :lol:

    Well, live with your tough luck, buddy!
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    India doesn't listen to West?

    Tell us then why India copy/paste the whole West political system?

    Dude, you need read up history!
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    They're not listening to a true American.

    100 pushups for them.
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    Many S Koreans are inhumanly brutal. That’s how that culture breads the kind of murderer like Virginia Tech serious killer Seung-Hui Cho. Study shows that Mr. Cho lacked the love from family. He was treated cruelly since young age. Thus he nurtured hatred against human being.

    I was visiting Forbidden City in Beijing 2005. When entering the huge gates, two files SK children about age 5 or 6 going in together with me. Given that age, children are bound to be nasty. What the S Korean teacher (female!) did was to bite furiously on the little girl’s arm, leaving deep wounds on it.

    Dude, that’s an animal behavior. If that’s the way the S Koreans teach their children, no wonder there are so many cold heart murderers produced.

    Thus, I'm not surprised that this SKorean would love massacre as fantastic.
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    I hate to correct our Chinese friends but Overseas Chinese do not constitute the third largest economy in the world by any measure. Today, the third largest economy in the world is Japan with a GDP in excess of $5 trillion, as a comparison. Overseas Chinese do not earn that much or more in a year.

    The statistics regarding Indonesian Chinese are also wrong. I doubt if they can control 20% of the economy. Do you think only 3% of Indonesia's 240 million people, control 70% of its $850 billion+ economy? Is it even possible? Do you realize how high their GDP per capita would be if this was true?

    Do not believe in these outrageous estimates by pawn-shop owners, loan sharks or gamblers. They may control 70% of their own poverty-filled neighbourhood, at best, but to control 70% of Indonesia's entire economy is beyond them. Facts do not support such outrageous claims.
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    Being submitted brutally by Japan since the 19th century and then the Korean war horrors made them sadistic.



    You are correct. The OP is totally wrong!
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    You are wrong

    By the 1950s virtually all retail stores in Indonesia were owned by ethnic Chinese entrepreneurs, whose businesses ranged from selling groceries to construction material. Discontentment soon grew among indigenous merchants who felt they could not compete with ethnic Chinese businesses.[110] Under pressure from indigenous merchants the government enacted the Benteng program and Presidential Regulation 10 of 1959, which imposed restrictions on ethnic Chinese importers and rural retailers. Ethnic Chinese businesses persisted, due to their integration into larger networks throughout Southeast Asia, and their dominance continued despite continuous state and private efforts to encourage the growth of indigenous capital.[111]

    Government policies shifted dramatically after 1965 and became more favorable toward economic expansion. In an effort to rehabilitate the economy, the government turned to those possessing the capability to invest and expand corporate activity. Ethnic Chinese capitalists, called the cukong, were strengthened by the military, which emerged as the dominant political force after 1965.[111] Indigenous businessmen once again demanded greater investment support from the government in the 1970s, but each legislation fell short of reducing ethnic Chinese dominance.[112] In a 1995 study published by the East Asia Analytical Unit of Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, approximately 73 percent of the market capitalization value of publicly listed companies (excluding foreign and state-owned companies) were owned by Chinese Indonesians

    Chinese Indonesians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Additionally, they owned 68 percent of the top 300 conglomerates and nine of the top ten private sector groups at the end of 1993.[113] This figure propagated the general belief that ethnic Chinese—then estimated at 3 percent of the population—controlled 70 percent of the economy.[114][115][116] Amid disputes surrounding the accuracy of this figure, it was evident that a wealth disparity existed along ethnic boundaries. The image of an economically powerful ethnic Chinese community was further fostered by the government through its inability to dissociate itself from the patronage networks.[117] The Hokchia group dominated the ethnic Chinese business scene during the Suharto government, with other groups emerging after 1998.[51]

    The top five conglomerates in Indonesia prior to the 1997 Asian financial crisis—the Salim Group, Astra International, the Sinar Mas Group, Gudang Garam, and the Lippo Group—were all owned by ethnic Chinese, with annual sales totaling Rp112 trillion (US$47 billion).
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    The president of Indonesia Abdurrahman Wahid (1999-2004) and Yudhoyono (2004---) both are chinese too

    http://www.chinanews.com/gj/gj-yt/news/2009/12-31/2048872.shtml

    印尼前总统瓦希德曾向媒体承认自己的华裔身份,其本家族祖上系伊斯兰教长老陈金汉,祖籍中国福建省泉州市晋江市,于明永乐十五年(1417年)郑和第五次下西洋时,随船队前往印尼爪哇岛谋生,定居于泗水。瓦希德会说一些闽南话。
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    Can you use a better source than Wikipedia? Indonesia's economy is around $850 billion. 70% of that amount is around $595 billion. Can 3% of 240 million Indonesians = 7.2 million Indonesians earn $595 billion in a year? Their GDP per capita would be around $82000 a year! I have seen many Indonesian Chinese, most of them are poorer than their Singaporean Chinese counterparts. There are a few billionaires, but overall, the Indonesian Chinese are not that well off.
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    so you live in the US because you believe in the greatness of South Korea.
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    I am not sure. Abdurrahman Wahid is from a respectable Muslim Indonesian family with some Chinese ancestors, but most of his ancestors and his father and mother were probably not Chinese. Yudhyono does not look Chinese at all.
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    Overseas Chinese is hard-working
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    i think we as members from other countries should be proud of the achievements of ethnic chinese in other SE Asian countries. we have a lot to learn from them....today india / indians are at a stage where chinese were in the past...chinese have worked hard to be at this level....same way other indians in SE Asian countries too need to work hard and make a name for themselves...

    for other chinese / ethnic chinese bros here...

    indians are slow to start with....they will take sometime to catch up...by the time you all are tired saying / typing and spewing venom on indians.....in next 20-30 years, we will be shoulder to shoulder in future.
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