Discussion in 'Pakistani Siasat' started by fawwaxs, Apr 3, 2013.
i can post the most pictoral narration of MQM but you wont be able to absorb the truth.
You must have mentioned MQM and May 12 about 2 million times by now. Have a look at the other side of the story too and then make up your mind by being neutral, if you can be neutral.
ok other side like ANP is also a terrorist! but hey let's not forget videos of MQM men firing on AAJ tv and how on one call from UK all of karachi closes down!
ANP is a smalltime chor infront of MQM the real terrorist firing on live tv openly on streets! and WASEEM AKHTAR was their home minister then!
and other parties being terrorist DOESN'T JUSTIFY MQM being terrorist!!! what dumb logic is this???
this is the reason why after 20 year MQM is limited to just karachi hyderabad areas. and not even interior sindh or punjab or balochistan or NWFP!!!
My point was not just that ANP & PPP are also terrorism supporters but that these were the prime parties responsible for May 12 and all the blame was placed on MQM alone. May 12 was an opportunity by anti MQM forces to defame MQM and they used it to incredible effect.
Not just May 12, I have personally explained to you specifically on more then 1 occasion that no political party would be insane or stupid enough to attack a TV channel with official party flags or with advertisement. Whatever happened to Aaj TV is also a load of BS, infact people with logical reasoning would be able to deduce that the advertisement was purposely done to post MQM as a terrorist or extremist party. MQM activities are exxaggerated to points where MQM becomes a terrorist and extremist political party which is why people outside Karachi/Hyderabad, areas where MQM is not represented, are scared of MQM and consider it a terrorist organization.
It is the power of the media, whoever controls information flow and media, wields actual power throughout the world. No wonder the Jews own most of the western and most influential media groups, it serves their purpose.
so if you blame the media of "lying" and political parties of carrying "false flags" then the same could be said about MQM carrying ANP flags wouldn't you?
and as for terrorist party well MQM is a terrorist party it is a reality that people have accepted from 1990s!
the problem with the 12th may attack was that MQM didn't expect that this is not the 90s where there were no cameras! hence they carried their flags! and bang they were exposed!
now since then MQM became smarter and became "NAA MALOOM AFRAAD" firing on bikes!
may 12th is responsibility of MQM because 1) they were in government 2) they clearly were visible in videos no ifs and buts on that fact 3) MQM litreally rules karachi so any good or bad is their responsiblity!
like any bad in lahore is responsiblity of PML N! jiski hookumat uski ghalti simple.
and finally as for media control by other parties!
remember what zulfiqar mirza said that NO REPORTER can REPORT AGAINST MQM because they live in the streets ruled by MQM! they will be killed by bullet from MQM which they won't even know! so ofcourse media is scared now of MQM unlike till 2007!
and then on top of all this please don't forget that MQM is a media champion! most of their statements are tailor made for media. like altaf keeping media excited by saying i will do drone strike in 3 days then 2 days etc etc.
plus MQM is one of the only parties that gives press confrences giving out news. unlike other paindu parties. so please don't say media is not handled well by MQM!
and a terrorist like zulfeqar mirza who chopped heads in lyari, operated extortion mafia and bunch of target killers and made hell in the centre of karachi must be your role model, and he never lies
you believe Riaz Malik and not CJ ifthikhar chaudry! so you cannot talk. people who believe riaz malik MUST believe zulfiqar mirza because both carried quran right?
Go on, we are listening.
zulfeqar must be your sworn brother that you believe every word coming out of his drunk mouth right?
i dunno what malik riaz said, but this cheapster CJ failed to even bring his corrupt son to justice and he is a politically appointed very cheap justice of pakistan
His community has created Pakistan....MQM is the representative party of that community...patriotic pathans should polish their boots
what makes you say CJ son is corrupt??? there is NO PROOF nothing EXCEPT THE TALK OF RIAZ MALIK! and first tell your leader the UK national to come to pakitan and live in karachi then talk. MQM is a party of U-TURNS and a party that wants to sit in power be it with dictator musharraf or PPP and ANP in the last 5 years!!
Four ‘MQM men’ shot dead after being kidnapped
KARACHI, April 19: Four men, said to be supporters of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, were gunned down after being kidnapped from the Lyari area on Friday, police said.
They said that three of the victims were cousins and meat merchants. The fourth one was a rickshaw driver.
Two meat merchants and the rickshaw driver were shot dead in Shershah area, while the bullet-riddled body of third meat merchant was found in the Pak Colony area.
The slain men were MQM supporters and one of them was a brother of a senior activist of MQM’s Lyari sector.
The killing came on a day when the MQM was observing a day of mourning against the frequent killing of its party workers and supporters in the city.
The police said that the three meat sellers — Naveed Akhtar, Shakil Ahmed, and Abdul Khaliq, — had gone to a slaughterhouse in Meera Naka to buy meat in a rickshaw driven by Nadim Ahmed on Friday morning.
They said that when they were returning home, unidentified armed men kidnapped them.
Later, the armed men brought three of the four men to a narrow lane at Akbar Road near Shershah’s Pankha Hotel, forced them to stand and fired at them targeting their heads. The armed men escaped after shooting. The victims were rushed to the Civil Hospital where they were pronounced dead on arrival.
Shershah SHO Khan Mohammad Shaikh said that the three victims were identified as Naveed Akhtar, 20, Shakil Ahmed, 30 and Nadeem Ahmed, 25.
Later in the day, the body of the fourth victim, Abdul Khaliq, 40, was found in a rickshaw in the Mewashah graveyard within the remit of the Pak Colony police station.
Describing it an act of terrorism, the MQM strongly condemned the killing.
A statement issued on Wednesday said that slain Shakeel Ahmed was the elder brother of MQM activist Khalil Ahmed.
You are quite right, false flag operations if carried out by other political parties can also be attributed to MQM. However, don't you think that MQM being predominantly of members that actually hail from Karachi, as opposed to outsiders in ANP/PPP etc., would care more about their own city and their own homes more then any outsider would? Not just that, you could see Sherry Rehman and what not in that video. I have said it many a time before and let me say it again, on May 12, MQM was the victim!
You, most definitely, do not understand the meaning of the term 'reality'.
So the political party that has more educated representation (in % and not actual count) and is more technologically oriented, especially since most of the National Media not only started from Karachi but is still housed predominantly in Karachi, would not be aware of the power of media in the late 2000's??? Now remember that this is the only party that has tasted the bitter pill of exploitation and negative propaganda on similar media since early 90's, they wouldn't be aware??? Come on man.
Well, PPP has ruled the center for the past 5 years so would you blame them for all the bomb blasts and the attack on military offices?? There are certain things that a politically elected Government can do and then there are certain other things that they cannot do. Is Obama Government responsible for the recent bombings or the Factory disaster in US? Was Bush responsible for 9/11?? Incompetence maybe, but responsibility??
That's precisely what I have stated above, that MQM is no fool to be caught pants down hence May 12 was a very well planned, organized conspiracy against MQM that has been exploited superbly over the years.
And you are speaking of the same Zulfiqar Mirza who sold over 300,000 prohibited bore licenses to Liyari Gang Criminals??
Finally.......Did you watch the 12 minute video I had posted???
Please lets not crap the thread. But morally, even to yourself, can you deny my earlier post about Pashtuns??
I am sure AH will come to Pakistan the day he enjoys the same level of representation and support that NS enjoys or BB enjoyed. There are more anti state elements in Pakistan, even among ourselves, then pro elements and thus, unfortunately, people have no option but to serve Pakistan from abroad.
MQM Candidates for Elections 2013
Candidates of National Assembly (Karachi)
Salman Mujahid Baloch
NA-239 (Maripur, Kemari)
Khuwaja Sohail Mansoor
S.A. Iqbal Qadri
NA-242 (Qasba, Orangi)
NA-243 (New Karachi, Noth Karachi)
NA-244 (New Karachi, F.B Area)
NA-245 (North Nazimabad)
NA-246 (F.B Area)
NA-247 (Nazimabad, Gulbahar)
Dr. Farooq Sattar
NA-249 (Ranchoreline, Garden)
Khush Bakht Shujahat
NA-250 (Defence, Cilfton)
Ali Raza Abidi
NA-251 (Mehmoodabad Society)
NA-252 (PIB, Bahadurabad)
Sheikh Muhammad Afzal
Iqbal Muhammad Ali Khan
NA-256 (Shah Faisal)
NA-258 (Gadap, Bin Qasim)
Candidates of Provincial Assembly Sindh (Karachi)
Haji Ali Muhammad
PS-92 (Pak Colony)
PS-93 (Site, Metrowil)
Saif ud din Khalid
Ahmed Alam Dastagir
PS-96 (Qasba Aligar)
PS-98 (North Karachi)
Khuwaja Izhar ul Hassan
PS-99 (New Karachi)
PS-100 (New Karachi)
PS-101 (North Nazimabad)
PS-102 (Bufferzone, FB Area)
PS-103 (North Nazimabad)
Khalid Bin Wilayat
PS-105 (Karimabad, Liaqatabad)
PS-107 (Liaquatabad, Nazimabad)
PS-110 (Ranchorline, Kharadar)
PS-112 (Burnus Road, Defence)
PS-113 (Defence, PIB)
Mehmood Abdul Razzaq
Dr. Sagheer Ahmed
Nishat Ahmed Zia
PS-120 (Shah Faisal)
Syed Sardar Ahmed
Moin Amir Khan Pirzada
PS-125 (Qayyumabad, Korangi)
PS-126 (Gulistan-e-Johar, Scheme 33)
PS-127 (Malir Memon Goth)
Syed Waqar Hussain Shah
Gul Muhammad Mengal
PS-129 (Bhains Colony, Ibrahim Hydri)
Manzoor Ahmed Jokiyo
PS-130 (Bin Qasim, Gadap)
Separate names with a comma.