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More missiles — or more schools?

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Spending on missile defence takes away from our social sector development in an economy, which is estimated to grow by a mere two per cent this year, compared to India’s nine per cent. PHOTO: INP

India and Pakistan have test-fired their nuclear-capable short-range, surface-to-surface, ballistic missiles on the same day, and if one were to say that was coincidental, there would be very few takers.

Everything the two neighbours do is a hostile message from one to the other, emanating from costly mutual espionage that they conduct against each other. If tit-for-tat was the motive behind the timing, India wins because it fired two nuclear missiles instead of one. In 1998, when it came to nuclear tests, Pakistan had won because it exploded more devices than India. Pakistan has fired Hatf-2 — hatf means ‘bodiless sound’ but also ‘angel of death’, if you stretch the etymology a little. The Indians leaned on their mythology and named the latest test-fired missiles as Dhanush and Prithvi-2.

Governments on both sides think that they have achieved a higher level of strategic defence or deterrence. Both are proud that the latest versions are more accurate than the ones fired in the past, meaning that, from as far away as 300 miles, they can kill quite accurately, and since they are nuclear-capable, they can kill a large mass of people while crippling the rest forever.

Both sides think that the tests are unlikely to aggravate tensions between them. How should the populations of India and Pakistan interpret the assertion by both sides that the tests have been “remarkably accurate and precise”? What is clearly meant is that these weapons will kill more people on both sides with great exactitude.

Should the people of India and Pakistan rejoice? And should their thinking change from what they felt when bilateral battles were conventional; and celebrate the reality that a nuclear war could annihilate both sides without anyone winning?

Doctrines of defence have become more sophisticated. Pakistan no longer relies on the declared intent of the ‘other side’. If India says it has no intention of attacking Pakistan, that is not enough; Pakistan will look at the level of India’s war capability to make its decisions about national security. It is the calculus of weapons which now decides how much a country will spend on its military budget. This was also the recipe for the arms race in which two rich nations of the former bipolar world indulged: The US and the USSR.

Take your gaze away from the spectacle of missiles ascending and descending and you will find disparities that no weapon system can equalise. If one looks at India’s growth rate today one can imagine that their missiles cost them not much in terms of how much was spent on them as a percentage of India’s GDP.

On the other hand, Pakistan’s missiles have hurt the Pakistani people more because spending on missile defence takes away from their social sector development in an economy which is estimated to grow by a mere two per cent this year, compared to India’s nine per cent. We must remember that it was under the weight of matching the US weaponry that an economically-strapped USSR finally collapsed. And that goes to prove that merely being in an arms race, without actually going into battle, can mean a defeat for either side.

There are other disparities too. Pakistan’s development budget has been halved and most human development projects have been put on hold. Lack of education, or the wrong type of education (where students, even in the mainstream system are indoctrinated), has mired the country in extremism and this is partly the reason for the ongoing governance. India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, growing at rates three to four times more than Pakistan, are well set to meet the millennium development goals by 2015; Pakistan doesn’t have the Rs100 billion needed for education while it is shelling out Rs400 billion to its loss-making state-owned corporations.

Historically, Pakistan has spent a scandalously low 2.5 per cent of its GDP on education — now this figure is a mere 1.5 per cent, all this while test-firing missiles that cost an astronomical amount.

Meanwhile, some government departments are not being paid salaries; projects crucial to fast-growing cities have been set aside; schools in the countryside are being taken over by local strongmen while pupils sit out in the fields; and the Taliban, who fear nothing from our Hatf missiles, destroy schools in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa without hindrance.


Published in The Express Tribune, March 13th, 2011.

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Pakistan has a economy smaller than that of Nigeria and it wants its Military to be the size of that of Turkey.

unambiguously.. gonna hurt your own people.
 
Pakistan has a economy smaller than that of Nigeria and it wants its Military to be the size of that of Turkey.

unambiguously.. gonna hurt your own people.

Pakistan only needs a military that can hold back threat from her neighbour to the East
 
the fact is, there is no comparison between the the two. the condition in reality in india are worse. living standards are poorer than our, our problem is just about good governance not mis management in allocating our resources. for a proof 50% of what is allocated to Education every year remains in accounts.
 
So much fuss on a routine test,.... We surely dont put so much on education and Health... But We also need to make sure that our defence stays to minimum deterrence. And whatever was tested was tested in already allocated budget.
 
As usual off topic rant :blah: and targeting messenger. :guns:

Care to read, its written by a Pakistani and published in a Pakistani newspaper.

we have some pro-bharti media persons as well so nevermind ;)


anyway we need both missiles as well as schools
 
That was just modificatoin !!
Actually, I guess we must reduce on Missiles and increase on Education.

Say it like this, we stop on Missile and spend on education, and something from East comes and attacks, so whats to need of education ??
Improve defence as well as education and literaacy :tup:
 
Madam, there is something called analysis, where you analyze what the problem is really.
Money not reaching poor is the problem, why it is happening? Because the money allocated for them does not reach them, due to corruption.

Now some people feel that if defense money is allocated for poor, the babus will not be corrupt. This is something I cannot digest.

i have no concern with bharati babus corrupt or otherwise i am only concerned with bharati babus' poking their nose in Pakistani affairs.
oh btw why dont you divert your huge defence spending for reducing poverty in India ???



Yes we are buying big time agreed.
1) Do you realize that most of our inventory is 3 decades old and we did not buy anything for very long time.(So someday, we have to buy)
2) We have money to buy.
3) We have threat perception to justify.


:) hope some people with some brain will accept the same criteria for Pakistan for

1. We have far more outdated inventory than Indian one

2. We manage to have money to buy (that should not be any of indian business how we manage)

3. Keeping in view Indian state sponsored official terrorism against Pakistan in 71 and Indian war mongering every now and then we have far grave threat perception to justify

Now what is anyone's problem.

In-fact I do not even have any problem with Pakistan spending money on missiles. I do not care, I do not have habit of poking in other people's matter unless it impacts me.[/B]

same here as long as bharatis dont come crying again against our spending i have no interest to point out yours
 
EVERYONE MISSING ONE POINT!

There is a difference between government and armed forces
- - It is the duty of government to spend on education and not the duty of armed forces.

- - The money that the military gets, is spent on defence. The government needs to stop corruption and spend that money on Education and Health Care.

Don't blame the military. .
 
let pak increase or decrease the spending..either way it's going to hurt them.

indian spending should be increased at least to 3% of GDP to keep minimum deterrence against china.
 
False choice - focusing on the military as usual and ignoring the far more significant losses and weaknesses on the civilian side:

Referring to the privatisation programme, he noted that this should be expedited to get rid of loss incurring by state-owned enterprises which are causing huge losses to the revenue. During 2010,they have caused losses to the tune of $ 3 billion and observed that they can work efficiently in the private sector.

and also

The Ambassador said Pakistan's tax to GDP ratio is less than 9percent which is among the lowest in the world. US citizens pay around 18 percent to the GDP and many developed countries pay upward of 30 percent.​

 

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