Launch of the First Australian Navy Hobart Class Air Warfare Destroyer

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Launch of the First Australian Navy Hobart Class Air Warfare Destroyer
Sunday, 24 May 2015

In an important milestone for the Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) program, the first of three destroyers, Hobart, was launched alongside the Port River wharf in Adelaide today. This is a key achievement for the program and a big step towards the delivery of three highly capable warships to the Royal Australian Navy. The second destroyer Brisbane — now in an advanced state of fit-out with more than half of the blocks already consolidated on the hardstand.

The first Australian Navy Hobart Class Air Warfare Destroyer has been launched on May 23 (Picture: Tom Huntley)

Once fully operational, the warships will have a combination of great endurance, offensive and defensive weapons, flexibility and versatility. Hobart, Brisbane and Sydney will assume a leading command and control role with the Australian Defence Force and Coalition forces capable of carrying out multi-mission operations.
The Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) program is one of the largest and most complex Defence projects ever undertaken in Australia and has been instrumental in building a strong shipbuilding capability in Australia.


The Hobart has reached this milestone through Government and industry collaboration involving an Australian workforce of some 3000 people. This includes the AWD Alliance made up of lead shipbuilder ASC, mission systems integrator Raytheon Australia and the Department of Defence, including the Royal Australian Navy.

The program has also been supported the United States Navy, Navantia, Lockheed Martin, Forgacs, BAE Systems and MG Engineering.

As Hobart moves into this next phase, the second and third destroyers, Brisbane and Sydney, will benefit from the AWD Alliance applying lessons learned.

This experience will be drawn on should a continuous build strategy, with a regular pace of delivering new warships, be feasible.

An enterprise-level naval shipbuilding plan would provide for the long-term future of the Australian naval shipbuilding industry and avoid the peaks and troughs we are experiencing – and have experienced in the past.

With Hobart in the water, the second destroyer, Brisbane, can soon take its place on the hardstand to undergo final block consolidation, and the keel for the third destroyer, Sydney, will be laid.

The AWDs are being built for Australia’s specific defence needs and will provide a significant increase in Australia’s defence capabilities. The AWDs will provide greater protection for ADF personnel by providing air defence for accompanying ships as well as land forces and infrastructure on nearby coastal areas. The AWDs will also provide self-protection against attacking missiles and aircraft.

The Aegis Weapon System incorporating the state-of-the-art phased array radar, AN/ SPY 1D(V), in combination with the SM-2 missile, will provide an advanced air defence system capable of engaging enemy aircraft and missiles at ranges in excess of 150 kilometres.

The AWDs will also carry a MH-60R Seahawk ‘Romeo’ naval combat helicopter for surveillance and response to support key warfare areas. The surface warfare function will include long range anti-ship missiles and a naval gun capable of firing extended range munitions in support of land forces. The AWDs will also be able to conduct Undersea Warfare and will be equipped with modern sonar systems, decoys and surface-launched torpedoes.

Coupled with an array of close-in defensive weapons, all of these capabilities ensure the AWDs have the layered defensive and offensive resources required to win the battle against 21st century conventional and asymmetric threats.

The Defence team is led by the AWD Program Office in the Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO), which retains overall responsibility for the project management and delivery of the three Air Warfare Destroyers. The DMO, through the Minister for Defence, is responsible to the people of Australia to ensure that the future AWDs are delivered to the RAN on time, on budget and to the required capability.
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Hobart Class Air Warfare Destroyers, Australia

Key Data

• Type Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD)
• Builder ASC, BAE Systems and FORGACS Group
• Operator Royal Australian Navy (RAN)
• Crew Approx 180
• Full Load Displacement 7,000t
• Overall Length 147m
• Beam 18.6m

The Hobart Class air warfare destroyers (AWD) are being built by AWD Alliance for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). The air warfare destroyer programme, known as SEA 4000, will deliver three advanced multirole warships to replace the FFGs of the RAN.

The three AWDs will be named HMAS Hobart, HMAS Brisbane and HMAS Sydney. The first AWD is expected to be delivered in December 2014, and the second and third warships are slated for early 2016 and mid-2017 respectively.

The $8bn AWD project is the largest Defence procurement project ever undertaken in Australia. It is expected to create 3,000 jobs in Australia and also benefit thousands of companies based in the nation.

Air warfare destroyer programme

The Hobart Class AWD programme is intended to deliver an affordable, effective, flexible and sustainable air warfare destroyer platform to the RAN. The requirement for modern warships was established by the Kinnaird Review in 2003. Gibbs & Cox and Navantia submitted warship designs to the Commonwealth Government.

The Australian Government selected ASC as the shipbuilder for the programme in May 2005. In June 2007, the existing design of Navantia was selected as a platform for the AWD programme. ASC entered into an alliance-based contract with the Defence Materiel Organisation and Raytheon Australia. The project has passed critical design review in January 2010.

Hobart Class AWD design

"The AWD platform is based on the Navantia-designed F100 frigate."
The AWD platform is based on the Navantia-designed F100 frigate, which is in service with the Spanish Navy. The baseline design has been slightly modified for Australian use, including the displacement of the AWD being increased to 7,000t, and the hangar modified to accommodate a range of helicopters.

The range now includes powerful diesel engines combined with improved fuel tank arrangements. The design also incorporates a bow thruster to provide better manoeuvrability.

AWD construction

The AWD Alliance subcontracted the FORGACS group and NQEA Australia as the preferred suppliers to build 70% of the blocks. In June 2009, the work allotted to the NQEA was transferred to BAE Systems Australia due to financial obligations.

The ships are being built using a modular construction method. The hull blocks of three destroyers are being constructed at three shipyards, including ASC in Osborne, BAE Systems in Melbourne and Forgacs in Newcastle. The assembling, outfitting, equipment and systems installation and trial activities will be carried out at the newly opened ASC Osborne shipyard.

A total of 31 blocks are being constructed for each ship, of which 70% are built by BAE Systems and Forgacs, and the remaining by ASC. ASC's facility located northwest of Adelaide's CBD will fabricate nine blocks for each ship. Work is currently underway on six blocks including decking and superstructure components.

Work is in progress on seven of the 12 main keel blocks fabricated for each ship at Melbourne and Victoria facilities of BAE Systems. Forgacs will fabricate 10 blocks for each ship in Newcastle. Work is underway on five central blocks, including the superstructure. Accommodation modules for all the ships are being built by Taylor Brothers in Hobart.

In June 2010, AWD Alliance has signed a $25m contract with Toll North to transport 66 hull blocks from Newcastle and Melbourne to Osborne Shipyard for assembly. BlueScope Steel has been contracted to supply 3,000t of steel required for the ship construction.

Hobart Class AWD missions

The Hobart Class will provide air defence for vessels, land-based forces and infrastructure in coastal lines. It will also defend and destroy missiles and aircraft within a range of 150km. The destroyers can also be deployed in law enforcement operations, defence aid to the civil community, collection of environmental data, rescue operations and diplomatic roles.

The Hobart Class will be equipped with advanced sonar systems, decoys and surface-launched torpedoes for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) operations.

Hobart Class AWD weapon systems

The Hobart Class AWDs will be the first RAN warships to be equipped with the Aegis combat system. Aegis includes a SPY-1D(V) radar, Mk 41 vertical launch system (VLS), SM-2 standard missile and an open architecture (OA) combat system.

"The Hobart Class will provide air defence for vessels."
The AWD will also be armed with the SM-6 long-range anti-aircraft missile, the Harpoon anti-ship missile system and Mk32 Mod9 surface vessel torpedo tubes (SVTT) for MU90 torpedoes.

The AWD will be fitted with a BAE Systems Mk 45 5" 62 calibre gun and a Phalanx Block 1B close-in weapons system (CIWS).

AWD helicopter system

The Hobart Class will feature a flight deck and a hangar to allow the operations of helicopters and UAVs. The existing hangar design will be modified to carry a wide range of helicopters.

Hobart Class countermeasures

"The Hobart Class will be equipped with advanced sonar systems and decoys."
The destroyer will be equipped with a ES-3701 tactical radar electronic support measures (ESM) and surveillance system. In December 2008, the AWD Alliance awarded a contract for the supply of a decoy launching system to Terma. Four deck-mounted MK-137 130mm decoy launchers can fire decoys to deceive incoming anti-ship missiles. Other countermeasures include Nulka active missile decoy launchers and ASW torpedo decoys.

AWD sensors

The AWD's sensor suite will include AN/SPY-1D(V) phased array radar, horizon search radar, SAM Electronics X-band navigation radar, integrated hull-mounted and towed array sonar system, and VAMPIR infrared search and track (IRST) system.

Hobart Class propulsion

The AWD will be equipped with a combined diesel and gas (CODAG) propulsion system with two GE LM 2500 gas turbines and two diesel engines. The vessel will also be fitted with a bow thruster for improved manoeuvrability.

Hobart Class Air Warfare Destroyers - Naval Technology

Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD)

The Hobart Class Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) will deliver an effective, flexible and sustainable Air Warfare Destroyer capability for the security of Australia.

The 2000 Defence White Paper stated the Australian Defence Force would replace the Navy’s FFGs with a class of at least three air defence capable ships, the new Air Warfare Destroyers.

The Air Warfare Destroyer Program will provide the Royal Australian Navy (RAN) with one of the world’s most capable all purpose warships. In selecting the F100 as the baseline platform design and coupling it with the Aegis combat system, the Australian Government has ensured tomorrow’s Navy has the best equipment to defend Australia and its national interests.

These Hobart Class AWDs will provide air defence for accompanying ships in addition to land forces and infrastructure in coastal areas, and for self-protection against missiles and aircraft. The Aegis Combat System incorporating the state-of-the-art phased array radar, AN/SPY 1D(V), in combination with the SM-2 missile, will provide an advanced air defence system capable of engaging enemy aircraft and missiles at ranges in excess of 150km.

The AWDs will carry a helicopter for surveillance and response to support key warfare areas. The surface warfare function will include long range anti-ship missiles and a naval gun capable of firing extended range munitions in support of land forces.

The Hobart Class will also conduct Undersea Warfare and be equipped with modern sonar systems, decoys, surface-launched torpedoes and an array of effective close-in defensive weapons.

These capabilities ensure the AWDs have the layered defensive and offensive capability required to counter conventional and asymmetric threats.

Ships

• HMAS Hobart (III)
• HMAS Brisbane (III)
• HMAS Sydney (V)

Characteristics

• Length 146.7 metres
• Beam: 18.6 metres
• Draft: 7.2 metres
• Full Load Displacement: 7,000 tonnes
  Performance
• Top Speed: 28+ knots
• Range: 5,000+ nautical miles at 18+ knots
  Crew
• Approx 180
  Accommodation
• 234
  Combat System
• Aegis Weapon System Baseline 7.1
• AN/SPY-1D(V) Phased Array Radar
• Horizon Search Radar
• Mk 41 Vertical Launch System (48 VLS Cells)
• Mk 45 5” 62 Calibre Gun
• Advanced HARPOON Weapon Control System: 2 quad launchers
• EW Suite
• Very Short Range Air and Surface Defence
• NULKA Active Missile Decoy system
• Integrated Sonar System incorporating a Hull Mounted and towed array sonar
• Communications Suite
  Aviation
• Hangars: 1
  Boats
• Two Rigid Hulled Inflatable Boats

Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) | Royal Australian Navy

 

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Australia's New Air Warfare Destroyer Launches
Royal Australian Navy ceremony conducted in Adelaide
Published: 05/21/2015

Raytheon Australia and its partners in the AWD Alliance are celebrating the official launch of the Hobart, the first Air Warfare Destroyer.

The launch at Techport, South Australia, not only signals the next phase of fit-out and testing before Hobart is delivered to the Royal Australian Navy for operational duty, but will also enable the second destroyer, Brisbane, to undergo final block consolidation after it replaces Hobart on the hardstand.

Activity will also commence on the third ship, Sydney, as preparations are made for the upcoming keel laying ceremony.

Raytheon Australia Managing Director Michael Ward extended his congratulations to members of the AWD Alliance. “As the AWD mission system integrator, it is a source of pride for Raytheon that we have applied our unique engineering and project management skills to delivering a project that is integrated in Australia,” he said.

“The AWD’s combat system integration activities represents some of the most advanced engineering accomplishments yet undertaken in such a project in this country and will contribute to making the AWD the most sophisticated warship ever operated by the Royal Australian Navy,” Ward added. “Along with our experience and US reach back, there has been a strong investment in local capabilities in systems architecture, engineering and program management which have all contributed to this launch milestone."

Raytheon joined the initial phase of the project in 2005, drawing upon the experience of many staff who had worked on the Collins-class submarine project.

“Not only are we one step closer to the delivery of this vital new capability, but we can take pride in the fact that Australia now has a highly skilled workforce able to apply key leanings from this project to future naval shipbuilding activities,” Ward said.

Coupled with Raytheon’s reach back to Raytheon Company’s specialist skills, tools and proven processes, the launch represents a significant contribution to the potent capability that makes up the AWD program.

By addressing complex technical risks early in the project, Raytheon had tested more than 85 percent of the combat system interfaces before Hobart’s launch.

“As we look forward to delivering this capability to the Royal Australian Navy, each of us should take pride in knowing we all play a key role in the success of this project – from our experienced welders, fitters and technicians in the shipyard to our technical integration teams located across the country,” Ward said.

Raytheon Australia: Australia's New Air Warfare Destroyer Launches - Royal Australian Navy ceremony conducted in Adelaide
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Hobart continues proud navy tradition

• DAVID BENIUK, EMMA HOPE AND PAUL STARICK
• May 24, 2015

Nicola Hodgman, wife of Tasmanian Premier Will Hodgman, performs the official launch honours for the air warfare destroyer HMAS Hobart in Adelaide. Picture: BRYAN CHARLTON/AWD ALLIANCE

TASMANIANS  with “salt-water in their blood” will be among those who will serve on the navy’s first air warfare destroyer, HMAS Hobart.

The wife of Premier Will Hodgman, Nicola Hodgman, launched the 147m ship bearing the Tasmanian capital’s name during a ceremony in Adelaide yesterday.

Royal Australian Navy Vice-Admiral Tim Barrett said the Hobart — the first of three in its class and Australia’s most powerful warship — was likely to be home to Tasmanian sailors who had traditionally punched above their weight in the navy.

“In every generation since Federation, Tasmania has made a disproportionate contribution to navy,” he said.

“Young Tasmanians who enter the navy already seem to have saltwater in their blood and they make fine sailors.”

Vice-Admiral Barrett said they included the grandfather, great uncle, father and uncle of Premier Will Hodgman.


“Nicky, it is most fitting that you should accept the honour and be our launching lady for Hobart,” he said.

“I have no doubt that many Tasmanian sailors will serve in this ship.

“Over the years to come, HMAS Hobart will visit Hobart and host the residents of the city whose name she will carry proudly around the world.”

HMAS Hobart was launched at Adelaide shipbuilder ASC’s headquarters.

The 7000-tonne destroyer is 75 per cent complete and will undergo a final fitout before sea trials next year.

Once operational, the Hobart will have a crew of 186, a top speed of 28 knots, and a range of 5000 nautical miles, or more than 9000km.

It will be followed into service by HMAS Brisbane and HMAS Sydney, both of which are now under construction in Adelaide.
Mrs Hodgman said she was honoured to have been chosen to mark the Hobart’s launch.

“In part there’s the wonderful recognition of the incredible contribution of the Tasmanian members of the military over such a long time,” she said.

“There’s also a family association.”

Will Hodgman’s grandfather, William Clark Hodgman, and his brother, Leigh Hodgman, both served as officers in the Navy Cadets and Navy Reserve before and during World War II.

Mr Hodgman’s father, Michael Hodgman, also served in the cadets and reserve as a junior sailor in the 1950s.

Re-entering the reserve as a legal officer in 1990, Michael Hodgman served to retirement, after which he became a vocal supporter of the navy until his death in 2013.

“I felt a little bit teary today thinking I wish Will’s dad was around because it’s the sort of thing he would have loved,” Mrs Hodgman said.

The Federal Government is determined to see through the Air Warfare Destroyer program, despite delays and a cost blowout to $9 billion, Defence Minister Kevin Andrews said.

Mr Andrews said Australia could not afford to lose a naval shipbuilding industry.
Hobart continues proud navy tradition | The Mercury


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Hobart Class Destroyer Air Warfare Capability Royal Australian Navy

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MH-60R
Overview
The MH-60R “Romeo” is the most capable and mature Anti-Submarine (ASW)/Anti-Surface Warfare (ASuW) multi-mission helicopter available in the world today. Together with its sibling, the MH-60S “Sierra,” the SEAHAWK variants have flown more than 650,000 hours across a 500+ aircraft fleet. The MH-60R is deployed globally with the U.S. Navy fleet and a growing number of allied international navies.

The journey from the start of MH-60R flight testing through the first deployment, in 2009, of 11 MH-60R helicopters aboard the USS Stennis, represents 1,900 flight hours, the equivalent of 500 labor years, and a considerable financial commitment by Lockheed Martin.

The MH-60R, manufactured by Sikorsky Aircraft Corp, and equipped with advanced mission systems and sensors by Lockheed Martin Mission Systems and Training (MST), is capable of detecting and prosecuting modern submarines in littoral and open ocean scenarios. In addition, it is capable of conducting stand-alone or joint anti-surface warfare missions with other Romeo or MH-60S “Sierra” aircraft. Secondary missions include electronic support measures, search and rescue, vertical replenishment, and medical evacuation.

The advanced mission sensor suite developed and integrated by Lockheed Martin includes:

• Multi-mode radar (including Inverse Synthetic Aperture Radar)
• Airborne Low Frequency Dipping Sonar (ALFS) subsystem and sonobuoys
• Electronic Support Measures with an integrated helo threat warning capability
• Forward Looking Infrared Electro-Optical device
• Integrated self defense
• A weapons suite including torpedoes and anti-ship missiles

Lockheed Martin MST also produces the Common Cockpit™ avionics, fielded on both the MH-60R and MH-60S. The 400th Common Cockpit will be installed on the first Royal Australian Navy MH-60R. In 2012, the Common Cockpit exceeded 600,000 flight hours across an operational fleet of 360 aircraft. The digital, all-glass cockpit features four large, flat-panel, multi-function, night-vision-compatible, color displays. The suite processes and manages communications and sensor data streaming into MH-60 multi-mission helicopters, presenting to the crew of three actionable information that significantly reduces workload while increasing situational awareness.

The U.S. Navy is committed to a long-term preplanned product improvement program, also known as P3I, to keep the MH-60R current throughout its life. Recent upgrades have included vital software and mission management systems in the Situational Awareness Technology Insertion (SATI) package as well as design upgrades to the Identification Friend-or-Foe Interrogator Subsystem. Combined with the aircraft’s Automatic Radar Periscope Detection and Discrimination system, the MH-60R’s range of detection will expand — enhancing situational awareness and advanced threat detection — while interference with civil air traffic control systems will diminish.

The MH-60R Electronic Surveillance Measures (ESM) system, which provides aircrew with valuable threat-warning capabilities, has benefited from the installation and maintenance of an ESM autoloader, and the development of Mission Data Loads, which comprise a database of possible threats within a specific region of operations.

Smaller elements are included as well, including the integration of a new multi-function radio called the ARC210 Gen 5 (which sister-aircraft MH-60S will also receive), crucial spare assemblies and integration of other core technologies. The Gen 5 radio will provide MH-60R aircrew with flexible and secure communication.


Specifications

MH-60R | MH-60

Specification From Sikorsky

http://www.sikorsky.com/Pages/Products/Military/SeaHawk/MH60R.aspx
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Alvaro de Bazan

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This ship pretty much embodies what the Taiwanese had in mind with their intended modified Perry class

See Final nod soon for Navy’s advanced stealth frigate | Page 5

 

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Simply put, the Aussies are top notch in procurements! They make mistakes like everybody else but on average …
they'll buy from about anyone as long as their goals are fulfilled and their requirements have at times made the
products they acquire so much better that export versions based on their specs surfaced.
They may not be perfect, nobody is, but they get a lot of punch out of their defense budgets.

https://www.mapw.org.au/files/downloads/The Australian Arms Industry.pdf
When a nation that exports barely over a billion bucks of weapons including dual use stuff
ends up helping those that sell to it better their wares, it's safe to say they're doing it right!

Kudos OZ!
Tay.

 

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Incredible ship.

 

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Sink or swim for South Australia's ship-building industry with HMAS Hobart unveiled

May 23, 2015: Australia's first hi-tech air warfare destroyer is finally in the water, but the ship's launch has been overshadowed by the program's ongoing delays and a billion-dollar cost blowout.
Australia's first hi-tech Air Warfare Destroyer is finally in the water, but the launch has been overshadowed by the program's ongoing delays and a billion-dollar cost blow-out.

The AWD is one of three being built in South Australia and weighs 7000 tonnes and standing 55 metres tall, with thousands lining up in Adelaide today to see the HMAS Hobart float for the first time.

The HMAS Hobart is the first of three AWDs to be constructed in South Australia. (9NEWS)


Today's celebrations were overshadowed by the federal government's audit into the ships, two and a half years behind schedule.

The cost has blown out by $1.2 billion to $9 billion in total.

The HMAS Hobart is still a while of being ready for action. (9NEWS)

"We can't ignore the fact that these ships are costing $3 billion a ship when equivalent ships in other parts of the world would have cost us just a billion dollars a ship," Finance Minister Mathias Cormann said.

The comments made by the finance minister are likely to make South Australia's ship-building industry nervous, with the state hoping to win contracts to build more warships and submarines worth more than $60 billion.


Read more at Sink or swim for South Australia's ship-building industry with HMAS Hobart unveiled - 9news.com.au

 

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Too bad you're banned BJlaowai ,
I would have suggested comparing the Hobarth class with the Zumwalt debacle?

Order for 33 destroyers spawning a mere 3 at ISO cost; things could be worst huh?

Good break, Tay.

 

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Sink or swim for South Australia's ship-building industry with HMAS Hobart unveiled

May 23, 2015: Australia's first hi-tech air warfare destr

"We can't ignore the fact that these ships are costing $3 billion a ship when equivalent ships in other parts of the world would have cost us just a billion dollars a ship," Finance Minister Mathias Cormann said.

The comments made by the finance minister are likely to make South Australia's ship-building industry nervous, with the state hoping to win contracts to build more warships and submarines worth more than $60 billion.

Read more at Sink or swim for South Australia's ship-building industry with HMAS Hobart unveiled - 9news.com.au

Say whaaat?

The Álvaro de Bazán-class frigates are the first modern vessels of the Spanish Navy to incorporate ballistic resistant steel in the hull, along with the power plants being mounted on anti-vibration mounts to reduce noise and make them less detectable by submarines. The original contract for four ships was worth €1,683m but they ended up costing €1,810m. As of 2010 it was estimated that the final vessel, F-105 would cost €834m (~US$1.1bn).

Álvaro de Bazán-class frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1.00 EUR = 1.40584 AUD
€834m > AUS$1.17m

There has to be something in that contract that is not just the ship but a whole lot of other shizzle.

 

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dont care buddy, what australia makes or does, im not interested.

 

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India procured INS Vikramaditya aircraft Carrier much cheaper than HMAS Hobart destroyer..

 

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Too bad you're banned BJlaowai ,
I would have suggested comparing the Hobarth class with the Zumwalt debacle?

Order for 33 destroyers spawning a mere 3 at ISO cost; things could be worst huh?

Good break, Tay.

I would not necessary say Hobart Class is such a debacle of the Zumwalt (And I would not actually called Zumwalt Class a debacle either)

Hobart was a redesign of Álvaro de Bazán class, not a direct purchase, in every way (beside the AGEIS system and the Fire Control radar that goes with) Hobart class is better equipped than the Álvaro de Bazán class. Hence the project is not actually buying off the Spanish Frigate, instead using the Álvaro de Bazán class as a blue print and redesign another AGEIS destroyer.

The 8 Billions price tag looks expensive but in effect, it is because we are building only 3 of them. If we build 5, it would be on par (A bit more expensive) at about 12 billions for all as said in Defence White paper. But then why do we need 5 AWD?

Another reason the Aussie go for this deal is because that would make the LHDs we are getting cheaper when we go with the same ship builder

Zumwalt class have the astrological price tag is because of the same reason, it cost about 20 billions to R&D the whole program, yet the US Navy only make 3 of them, per ship cost (Building material wise) it is about 1.5 bil per ship (That's what LM was awarded to build USS Zumwalt), but if you put R&D cost into it, then the ship will cost about 10 billions each.

Had the US really going for 30 ship original planned, you are looking at 2.5 Billions per ship instead of 10 billions lol...