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TOKYO —

Japan is considering building its own fighter jets after years of playing second fiddle in a U.S. construction partnership, a report said Thursday, in a move likely to stoke fears of its military resurgence among Asian neighbors.

Japan’s attempt in the 1980s to build its first purely domestic fighters since World War II faced U.S. resistance and resulted in joint U.S.-Japan development and production of the F-2, the Nikkei newspaper said.

But joint F-2 production ended more than two years ago and the last of the fighters are due to be retired from Japan’s air defense force around 2028, it added.

The defense ministry plans to seek about 40 billion yen in state funding for the next year starting in April 2015 to test experimental engines and radar-dodging stealth airframe designs for a purely Japanese fighter, the report said.

According to its medium-term defense program, the Tokyo government will decide by the 2018 financial year whether to go ahead with the all-Japanese fighter project.

There is a growing need for Japan to develop a long-haul, highly stealthy fighter jets in face of China’s increasing assertiveness in the East China Sea, where the two countries are locked in a dispute over a group of Tokyo-controlled islands, the Nikkei said.

Beijing regularly warns of what it says is Tokyo’s intent to re-arm on the quiet, saying selective amnesia about its World War II behavior means it cannot be trusted to have a fully-fledged military.

Last month the cabinet of conservative Prime Minister Shinzo Abe loosened the bonds on Japan’s military—proclaiming the right to go into battle in defense of allies—in a highly controversial shift in the nation’s post-war pacifist stance.

Japan denies its intent is anything other than defensive, and hits back that Beijing’s opaque military spending and its burgeoning ambitions are the real danger.

The defense ministry started work four years ago on the so-called Advanced Technology Demonstrator-X (ATD-X) plane to explore the project’s feasibility by studying lightweight airframe designs and built-in missile-firing mechanisms, the Nikkei said.

The ATD-X is due to start testing experimental engines in January and the stealth airframe designs in April, the report said.

The ministry hopes to develop the actual engines for the project in cooperation with IHI, Mitsubishi Heavy and other defense contractors in about five years.


Japan considers building its own fighter jets ‹ Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion
 
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The F-35 program cost is in the trillion and F-22 is in the hundred of billion, yet Japan, a country known to produce overprice product, is going to have a $5-6 billion dollar 5th generation program. Can we assume the $6B dollar is intend for "wood model" instead? LOL.
 
TOKYO —

Japan is considering building its own fighter jets after years of playing second fiddle in a U.S. construction partnership, a report said Thursday, in a move likely to stoke fears of its military resurgence among Asian neighbors.

Japan’s attempt in the 1980s to build its first purely domestic fighters since World War II faced U.S. resistance and resulted in joint U.S.-Japan development and production of the F-2, the Nikkei newspaper said.

But joint F-2 production ended more than two years ago and the last of the fighters are due to be retired from Japan’s air defense force around 2028, it added.

The defense ministry plans to seek about 40 billion yen in state funding for the next year starting in April 2015 to test experimental engines and radar-dodging stealth airframe designs for a purely Japanese fighter, the report said.

According to its medium-term defense program, the Tokyo government will decide by the 2018 financial year whether to go ahead with the all-Japanese fighter project.

There is a growing need for Japan to develop a long-haul, highly stealthy fighter jets in face of China’s increasing assertiveness in the East China Sea, where the two countries are locked in a dispute over a group of Tokyo-controlled islands, the Nikkei said.

Beijing regularly warns of what it says is Tokyo’s intent to re-arm on the quiet, saying selective amnesia about its World War II behavior means it cannot be trusted to have a fully-fledged military.

Last month the cabinet of conservative Prime Minister Shinzo Abe loosened the bonds on Japan’s military—proclaiming the right to go into battle in defense of allies—in a highly controversial shift in the nation’s post-war pacifist stance.

Japan denies its intent is anything other than defensive, and hits back that Beijing’s opaque military spending and its burgeoning ambitions are the real danger.

The defense ministry started work four years ago on the so-called Advanced Technology Demonstrator-X (ATD-X) plane to explore the project’s feasibility by studying lightweight airframe designs and built-in missile-firing mechanisms, the Nikkei said.

The ATD-X is due to start testing experimental engines in January and the stealth airframe designs in April, the report said.

The ministry hopes to develop the actual engines for the project in cooperation with IHI, Mitsubishi Heavy and other defense contractors in about five years.


Japan considers building its own fighter jets ‹ Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

The cost of such development would seem to indicate the necessity of partners. Possibilities:

Turkey, merging with its TFX program
South Korea, merging with its KFX program
Australia, Canada, Israel - ie the other customers who had been interested in the F-22

Or some combination of the above. This would spread the risk, and also address the question of reduced production costs by identifying export customers. In addition, given the sunset of the F-15 and F-18, perhaps Boeing can be enticed to join to keep it in the fighter market.
 
F-2 was no better than F-16, yet F-2 cost 120 million, F-16 cost ~20 million (1990 dollar so maybe 35 million now).

Japan's fighter jets are overpriced.
 
F-2 was no better than F-16, yet F-2 cost 120 million, F-16 cost ~20 million (1990 dollar so maybe 35 million now).

Japan's fighter jets are overpriced.

No one here really know how much it costs ? So don't talk about the cost anymore.
 
The F-35 program cost is in the trillion and F-22 is in the hundred of billion, yet Japan, a country known to produce overprice product, is going to have a $5-6 billion dollar 5th generation program. Can we assume the $6B dollar is intend for "wood model" instead? LOL.
Sorry to say in USA lot off corruption is also involved
 
No one here really know how much it costs ? So don't talk about the cost anymore.
Look like our Viet friend is desperately hoping the success of F3 so they can beg for a freebie from Japan. LOL
 
Japan is planning to retire some of our F15Js , soon. Who knows, I'm sure we can "transfer" some of them to our friends in the Philippines or Vietnam.

;)
 
Look like our Viet friend is desperately hoping the success of F3 so they can beg for a freebie from Japan. LOL

I'm pretty sure that, Vietnam doesn't want to receive free aircrafts from China ( if any ).
Vietnam ever experienced China made aircrafts during Vietnam War, frankly, the quality not match with Russian made, so less impressive.

From Japan, why not? We all know that what Made in Japan is.
 
Japan is planning to retire some of our F15Js , soon. Who knows, I'm sure we can "transfer" some of them to our friends in the Philippines or Vietnam.

;)
Given the nature of runways here in the Philippines, we would likely buy JAS 39 or even the AV-8B Harrier unless the F-15 can be modified into a STOL type. But isn't there some restriction about hardware-transfer since the F-15 is license built.
 
To Nihonjin1051:

"Japan’s attempt in the 1980s to build its first purely domestic fighters since World War II faced U.S. resistance and resulted in joint U.S.-Japan development and production of the F-2, the Nikkei newspaper said."

Why dosent USA allow Japan to build its own fighter aircraft, an increasing number of countries are building there own military hardwares. The worse thing one can do is to depend on others.


 
TOKYO —

Japan is considering building its own fighter jets after years of playing second fiddle in a U.S. construction partnership, a report said Thursday, in a move likely to stoke fears of its military resurgence among Asian neighbors.

Japan’s attempt in the 1980s to build its first purely domestic fighters since World War II faced U.S. resistance and resulted in joint U.S.-Japan development and production of the F-2, the Nikkei newspaper said.

But joint F-2 production ended more than two years ago and the last of the fighters are due to be retired from Japan’s air defense force around 2028, it added.

The defense ministry plans to seek about 40 billion yen in state funding for the next year starting in April 2015 to test experimental engines and radar-dodging stealth airframe designs for a purely Japanese fighter, the report said.

According to its medium-term defense program, the Tokyo government will decide by the 2018 financial year whether to go ahead with the all-Japanese fighter project.

There is a growing need for Japan to develop a long-haul, highly stealthy fighter jets in face of China’s increasing assertiveness in the East China Sea, where the two countries are locked in a dispute over a group of Tokyo-controlled islands, the Nikkei said.

Beijing regularly warns of what it says is Tokyo’s intent to re-arm on the quiet, saying selective amnesia about its World War II behavior means it cannot be trusted to have a fully-fledged military.

Last month the cabinet of conservative Prime Minister Shinzo Abe loosened the bonds on Japan’s military—proclaiming the right to go into battle in defense of allies—in a highly controversial shift in the nation’s post-war pacifist stance.

Japan denies its intent is anything other than defensive, and hits back that Beijing’s opaque military spending and its burgeoning ambitions are the real danger.

The defense ministry started work four years ago on the so-called Advanced Technology Demonstrator-X (ATD-X) plane to explore the project’s feasibility by studying lightweight airframe designs and built-in missile-firing mechanisms, the Nikkei said.

The ATD-X is due to start testing experimental engines in January and the stealth airframe designs in April, the report said.

The ministry hopes to develop the actual engines for the project in cooperation with IHI, Mitsubishi Heavy and other defense contractors in about five years.


Japan considers building its own fighter jets ‹ Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

Great news,Japan is a heavily Industrialized nation & it is time you produce these things on your own,who knows maybe we can go for from some JVs
 

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