J-11 crushes J-10 in PLAAF exercise

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  1. S10

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    Basically they held the largest air force mock combat exercise this year, and the results were overwhelmingly in favour of J-11. The training exercise was similar in scale to American's Red Flag. One particular J-11 pilot managed to accumulate over 42 mock kills over its J-10 opponent while only being "shot down" once. It's interesting since the results were complete reverse of just a few years ago when J-10 always manage to gain the upper hand. The past two years, units flying the J-11 has consistently outperform their opponents.

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    Seems like we may be investing in the wrong plane.
     
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    More like they figured out the tactics of J-10 pilots in previous exercises, and developed new ways to counter them. The red stars in the first photo indicates air-to-air kills.
     
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    It would be interesting to have China host our pilots while having mock dog fights, but for all I know this is probably already happening.
     
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    your location is scary.......................................:rofl:
     
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    From the image it seems to be J-10A. How would J-10B work against J-11 ?
     
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    108 pilots and their combat aircrafts fighting for ten Golden Helmet, and no matter J-11 and J-10, pilots more important than aircrafts, about 80% destroyed aircrafts did by 20% elite pilots

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    I think the title is misleading, J-11 and J10 are different plane, one is heavy, one is middle.
    The China Red flag drill just a training exercise, don't involve the plane here, just focus on the promotion of Pilot skill.

    Hope more such training exercise will be in china, to train and promote our pilot, and improve our plane.
     
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    Hard to say, but new tactics will evolve constantly during these exercises. I won't be surprised if units flying the J-10 turn the tables next year.

    The wording of the news is 对抗训练, which means mock combat training. The news article mentions how pilots engage each other.
     
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    I know, What I mean is that the title is a little misleading, will let the thread be into arguing over the plane.
    I am very glad that the training excerise become more in china, we will have more better planes, so the question appear, how to train our pilot, very glad that government don't neglect the traing system, also invest much on it, we should learn all the ways of training from other country, I like USA and Isreal training, especially Isreal, Whatever, very happy for PLA achievement.
     
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    For those who abuse Su27 series for its massive RCS..


    Su27 series is very potent platform, The plane can match Su27 series is F15s and EFTs..
     
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    well i hope PAF realises it as soon as possible;)
    instead get upgraded F16 latest variant block 60
     
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    Most of the kill is carried by by BVR. not the dogfight. The raw power of J-11b radar plus its stronger EW were the reason that kill most of the J-10. The last competition, the J-11B pilot were shot down by J-10, did not even utilise their EW suit available onboard.

    There is a reason why PLAAF prefer big plane, like J-8F which never retired and continuing gets upgrade. Bigger means you can carry more powerful EW suit and a bigger radar.

    While small plane like J-7G and J-E are quickly phased out and retired.
     
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    and after this exercise countries with su27 series need not complain about air threat from J10
     
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    Don't worry! Once China gets its hand on the 24 Su-35 , we will transfer those 24 planes to PAF... It's all part of the plan.

    We don't need those Russian Su-35.
     
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