Indian Missiles are Superior to Chinese in Quality, Says Experts

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  1. Ambitious.Asian

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    After India successfully testfired its first Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) Agni-5 a week ago, there were mixed reactions from all over the world. Although the West certainly acknowledged India's missile growth, the other end of the world does not seem very happy about it.


    It definitely changed certain equations between troubled neighbours India and China. Some of the immediate psychological effects were already felt in media reports from both countries.

    The official response from the Chinese government was more or less straight whereas the test did not go down well with the Chinese media. Much of the media reported how the Chinese nuclear arsenal is quite stronger than that of India and how India is no match for China.

    However, Srikanth Kondapalli, an expert on India-China relations and a professor in Chinese studies at the Jawaharlal Nehru University, is of a slightly different opinion.

    Kondapalli says: "No doubt when it comes to quantity, Chinese missiles are overwhelmingly superior. But when it comes to the quality of the missiles Indian missiles have a slight advantage over Chinese missiles due to certain reasons."

    China has 47 ICBMs, 800 IRBMs (Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile) and 1,500 SRBM (Short-range Ballistic Missiles).

    Kondappalli cites three main factors on why Indian missiles have a slight advantage over its counterpart.

    Propellant

    Most of the Chinese missiles are liquid propellants whereas many of the Indian missiles are solid propellant including the recently launched Agni-5.

    Liquid propellants take 10 days to 2 weeks to fill the barrels in order to ready the missiles and there is no surprise in doing that and this will be a delayed strike. But Indian missiles can strike anytime from anywhere.

    Accuracy

    When it comes to accuracy level of the missiles, once again the Indian missiles score over the Chinese. The Circular Error Probable (CEP) of India specific "DF21" missiles which are deployed in traditional Tibet is much lower compared to India's China-specific missile.

    The Chinese missiles are in the inaccuracy range 600 metres while Indian missiles have an inaccuracy of 20 metres. This means Indian missiles have a higher probability of hitting the target right.

    MIRV

    Many of the Indian missiles have the technology of Multiple Independently Targetable re-entry Vehicle (MIRV) in them. In simpler terms, one carrier can launch more than one missile, say 10 missiles and at 10 different targeting locations. And this cannot be shot down.

    The effectiveness of such missiles were already seen when Saddam Hussein used them during the Iraq-Israel war. Once again very few Chinese missiles have this technology when compared to India.

    Kondapalli says: "Imagine if you throw 10 stones and I will retaliate with only one stone but both are creating the same effect on each other. India is in such an advantage."

    Amid fears of the western powers joining hands with India, China is trying hard to avoid such situation.

    "In the background of the talks happening between India, US and Japan, in the background of 10-year defence cooperation in 2005, in the background of the 123 civil nuclear agreement between the US and India, in the background of Malabar exercises, the Chinese statement on India getting trapped by the westernv powers looks obvious," says Kondapalli.

    Also, even the official position of the Chinese is trying to divert attention. The recently launched Agni-5 which has a range of 5,000 kilometres is bound to be China-specific. Even though the official information from the Indian authorities does not state it in so many words, it seems quite clear while reading between the lines.

    On the contrary, Chinese authorities claim the recent Agni-5 has a range of 8,000 kilometres and it is Europe-specific. This is clearly to divert global attention from the real issue and trying to isolate India from other nations, according to Kondapalli.

    None of the government statements, journals, policies and not even the India media stated it is Europe-specific.

    "Although no one would want to state it explicitly, the subscript is the US, India and Japan are ganging up against China. This could be the logical inference," Kondapalli says.

    Adding to that, China has territorial disputes with Japan and has disputes with India over oil wells and staple visa issues. These frictions are constant with all other nations which is because China did not maintain a healthy relationship with them, concludes Kondapalli.



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  2. The_magnificent

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    who wrote it ? link please
     
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    it not in missiles it's practically everywhere else too. You have untested Chinese products, we all know their quality standards vs. latest and greatest weaponry being offered and bought by India. Take for instance their aircrafts, they don't really take them to shows and when they do , they suffer crashes like the last one open to public foreign journalist by mistake in china. nobody knows any real specs about them... you never read any negative news about any military equipment they produce ever or any failures unless it slips out as a" leaked information".

    Their own military chief says their tech in 20 years behind US/ NATO. on the other hand India enjoys an open buyer market pretty much. both western and eastern bloc openly sell their wares to India, while shunning( US/ Eu) or cautiously restricting sales to China.(Russia)
     
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    There is nothing to compare in quality when it comes to Nuclear missile. It's quantity.
    No matter how many nukes you throw on your enemy if he return one to you you have lost the war. Nuclear war is no win senario.
    Propellant comes to reliability issue but China has solid propellant missiles too - No problem
    Accuracy in meters doesn't make any difference if yu are dealing with megaton yield nukes. Even 2km error will do the job too
    MIRV- India has potential. It hasn't tested it yet. Still it is all in the first point. Hit 1 or 10 if you get hit by 1 your purpose of war is lost

    Both India and china knows it. So they will not do some stupid thing that will ruin the efferts they put in decades to bring their respective countries to this level

    USA-Japan-India nexus is very difficult. China will improve its relations with India to avoid it and Indian policy will make it hard to sustain. India never Yes Sir to USA. Plus India will never abandon its old time friend Russia for USA who is nothing but the swinger.

    But India might use this condition for the growth of its milletry/infrastructure /market and technology field. Self interest
     
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    Now the chinese will swarm to this thread and bombard this thread with Indian poverty and child malnutrition figures . That's when you know their missiles are indeed inferior ! :lol:
     
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    There is no doubt it, as chinese missiles are based on 50s and 60s technologies copied from the Russians.

    While India's being latest.

    Off topic.

    Flame bait.

    post reported.
     
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    In case you didn't know Olympics are much much bigger games than commonwealth games
     
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    Take a chill pill. I am making a broader point. That China has better infrastructure which translates into better quality design for Missiles and especially R&D.

    The only thing indigenous about Indian Missiles is the Paint on those missiles. :D

    Of course. But that just shows how bad India mangled the Games. :D
     
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    another piece of indian self proclaimed trash. hahaha your PM also claimed mumbai is better than shanghai in 5 years and your sport minister claimed CWG is better than beijing olympics hey man.... this is getting unbearable embaressing

    The fact you so scared seeing chinese members here is telling me you dont believe your own bs in this article LOL
     
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    The Commonwealth games were suppose to be India's coming out party just like Beijing Olympics were for China.

    But it had the opposite effect. Corruption, Bribery, Bad Infrastructure, Pollution, Sickness, etc.

    Commonwealth games won't be coming back to India anytime soon and nor will the Olympics.

    So how can India make better missiles than China. :D

    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    One . INDIA doesn't have MIRV

    TWO. China also have solid propellant MISSILES

    THREE. In a likely scenario it will be low level conventional war which may break out between india and china in which case numbers and other minor things like light tanks and military INdustrial strength comes into play to quickly produce battle worthy tanks, howitzers, shells rockets etc...

    I am sorry to say INDIA is at a dis advantage.
     
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    nobody is at advantage or disadvantage.....it's all about nuke game and the accuracy of missile

    First & Last ::: India missiles r far too superior..
     
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    listen Mr deliverance... talk about sports when a country visits your land to play a single match.. till then just buzz off !!
     
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    hahaha indian's delusion of grandeur at its best....
     
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    He is proudly defending . With topics that is not relevant.
     
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