Indian economic growth is good for Pakistan

[Developereo]

I think India's economic growth will provide the necessary kick in the pants needed for Pakistani politicians to get their act together.

The Pakistani public will be much less tolerant of bad performance by an elected government. It's one thing to view an abstract global economic growth curve, but India is our direct neighbor and we have always had a competitive spirit towards them in military, sports, culture, etc.

 

[arihant]

I think India's economic growth will provide the necessary kick in the pants needed for Pakistani politicians to get their act together.

The Pakistani public will be much less tolerant of bad performance by an elected government. It's one thing to view an abstract global economic growth curve, but India is our direct neighbor and we have always had a competitive spirit towards them in military, sports, culture, etc.

I think India should Learn from China. They have good techniques, although some bad too but still good to check their best performance.

Pakistan should not stole atleast Indian Politics which we consider worst. But only thing which keep Politics under our control is that we can change our card anytime as this democracy.

 

[asq]

If the west stop handing india everyt hing in a silver platter, India would still be in a deep hole.

Let me give some examples.

what is the difference between India and Pakistani talents when it come to setting up call centers, Why India is preferred over Pakistan, only one can guess, and it looks fishy.

The Mini car a true copy of German smart car was so much talked about in western media where as Pakistan had developed a car few years prior to Indian car and the name was Revo (revolution)never got such attention. Why?

Photos: Pakistan's first locally designed car Revo picture and comments.

Computer industry in Pakistan is much better and more vibrant in Pakistan than India but somehow India is given more access than Pakistan.

Pakistan has been fighting for the world since Russians walked in Afghanistan, but world denies it and do not want to see the truth, it is very bad when your neighbor joins the array of harming Pakistan by trying to stop developments. and use false propaganda and surveys by those who are known adversaries of Pakistan and talk about its breakup and neighbor who bring in the adversary who is killing Muslims by scores.

Nevertheless we believe in truth decency and honesty, these traits shall win.

It is law of Nature and of Universe.

 

[Developereo]

If the west stop handing india everyt hing in a silver platter, India would still be in a deep hole.

Well, I agree there is an anti-Muslim bias against Pakistan, but the other thing is that both India and China have had a stable government for a long time.

Pakistan is perceived as too risky for investment because of political instability and terrorism. Also, even most Pakistanis acknowledge that electricity, rule of law, and property rights are lacking in Pakistan. How can we expect foreigners to invest in Pakistan until our government can guarantee these things?

 

[arihant]

If the west stop handing india everyt hing in a silver platter, India would still be in a deep hole.

Let me give some examples.

what is the difference between India and Pakistani talents when it come to setting up call centers, Why India is preferred over Pakistan, only one can guess, and it looks fishy.

The Mini car a true copy of German smart car was so much talked about in western media where as Pakistan had developed a car few years prior to Indian car and the name was Revo (revolution)never got such attention. Why?

Photos: Pakistan's first locally designed car Revo picture and comments.

Computer industry in Pakistan is much better and more vibrant in Pakistan than India but somehow India is given more access than Pakistan.

Pakistan has been fighting for the world since Russians walked in Afghanistan, but world is in denies it and do not want to see the truth, But it is very bad when your neighbor joins the array of harming Pakistan by trying to stop developments. Nevertheless we believe in truth decency and honesty and these traits shall win.

It is law of Nature and of Universe.

I don't know but India designed it's first car very back. Even I cannot remember year. About Computers, you might developing computers but India is developing Super Computers. But still I don't want useless debate. Because we compare with you we might be far bigger but when we compare to China, we will not be able to compete.

No, its law of your own and your friends.

You don't want to accept truth and that as put you back. Once our leader understand truth about Chinese Market and their strong efficiency we will compete with their strong production capacity.

 

[Ruag]

If the west stop handing india everyt hing in a silver platter, India would still be in a deep hole.

Let me give some examples.

what is the difference between India and Pakistani talents when it come to setting up call centers, Why India is preferred over Pakistan, only one can guess, and it looks fishy.

The Mini car a true copy of German smart car was so much talked about in western media where as Pakistan had developed a car few years prior to Indian car and the name was Revo (revolution)never got such attention. Why?

Photos: Pakistan's first locally designed car Revo picture and comments.

Computer industry in Pakistan is much better and more vibrant in Pakistan than India but somehow India is given more access than Pakistan.

Pakistan has been fighting for the world since Russians walked in Afghanistan, but world is in denies it and do not want to see the truth, But it is very bad when your neighbor joins the array of harming Pakistan by trying to stop developments. Nevertheless we believe in truth decency and honesty and these traits shall win.

It is law of Nature and of Universe.

I don't want to criticize Pakistan but there are several reasons why India is ahead of Pakistan. One of which is mentioned below -

*India had a overall score of 0.06 in the International Innovation Index while Pakistan had a score of -0.82.

http://www.nam.org/innovationreport.pdf

 

[arihant]

The Mini car a true copy of German smart car was so much talked about in western media where as Pakistan had developed a car few years prior to Indian car and the name was Revo (revolution)never got such attention. Why?

Photos: Pakistan's first locally designed car Revo picture and comments.

You mentioned yourself what was the reason for failure. First of it was first car, second that it need your media support first and third its you who must buy and not the western media. If you buy it will be always successful.

 

[armyoptimist]

You can see the fight of Pakistan against terrorism. Insallah blasts will not occur again and Pakistan's economy will come on level. I know currently Pakistan is left behind India in computer tech but it does not mean that Pakistan will always remain like this. About 15 years will take Pakistan's economy to come on level. I think Pakistan Policies can be Improved.

 

[Developereo]

About Computers, you might developing computers but India is developing Super Computers.

I think the ability to design (super)computers is not an issue for call center and software jobs, which form the bulk of India's economic growth. Even the level of education is not an issue for call center (India) and manufacturing (China) jobs since ordinary Pakistanis and Indians have more than enough skills to do these jobs.

China and India benefitted in these sectors mostly because of a stable government.

I don't want to criticize Pakistan but there are several reasons why India is ahead of Pakistan. One of which is mentioned below -

*India had a overall score of 0.06 in the International Innovation Index while Pakistan had a score of -0.82.

http://www.nam.org/innovationreport.pdf

An utterly irrelevant post.

The overwhelming bulk of India's economic growth comes from service sector (office) jobs where innovation is not an issue. These are basically paper pushing jobs, most of which do not require high levels of skill. Even the software jobs are mostly low level coding jobs which can be performed by anyone with a year of training. I know. We outsourced some of our work to India and the quality was less-than-stellar. India continues to get IT outsourced work because Indian labor is much cheaper than Western labor and even hiring three Indians is cheaper than hiring one American or Brit locally.

 

[asq]

I don't know but India designed it's first car very back. Even I cannot remember year. About Computers, you might developing computers but India is developing Super Computers. But still I don't want useless debate. Because we compare with you we might be far bigger but when we compare to China, we will not be able to compete.

No, its law of your own and your friends.

You don't want to accept truth and that as put you back. Once our leader understand truth about Chinese Market and their strong efficiency we will compete with their strong production capacity.

WHAT A SILLY THING TO SAY, IF YOUR THEORY ABOUT BIGGER IS BETTER THAN GERMANY AND JAPAN SHOULD BE THE POOREST NATIONS IN THE WORLD.

 

[arihant]

The overwhelming bulk of India's economic growth comes from service sector (office) jobs where innovation is not an issue. These are basically paper pushing jobs, most of which do not require high levels of skill. Even the software jobs are mostly low level coding jobs which can be performed by anyone with a year of training. I know. We outsourced some of our work to India and the quality was less-than-stellar. India continues to get IT outsourced work because Indian labor is much cheaper than Western labor and even hiring three Indians is cheaper than hiring one American or Brit locally.

What you mean by Software are low level jobs. I tried to learn software and fail to do so. I found it extremely hard. Also, Most of all weapons need software and not only Parts. You are just disgracing the IT. If one says, that production is easy and marketing is hard (The person is in marketing field), it makes no sense. Everything is important. Service Sector not only includes paper work.

* Franchising
* News media
* Education
* Hospitality industry (e.g. restaurants, hotels, casinos)
* Consulting
* Legal practice
* Healthcare/hospitals
* Waste disposal
* Real estate
* Personal services
* Business services

It is more than paper work. You have to successfully carry out everything.

India's Service Sector consist 53% while China's service sector consist of 40% of GDP. Pakistan's service sector consist of 53.7%. It is not much difference. Pakistan and India's Economy is heavily influenced by Agriculture while for China it's Industry. In china it's 24% and in India its 14% of GDP for Industry. That makes much sense the difference will arrow once People move from Agriculture to Industry.

 

[asq]

I don't know but India designed it's first car very back. Even I cannot remember year. About Computers, you might developing computers but India is developing Super Computers. But still I don't want useless debate. Because we compare with you we might be far bigger but when we compare to China, we will not be able to compete.

No, its law of your own and your friends.

You don't want to accept truth and that as put you back. Once our leader understand truth about Chinese Market and their strong efficiency we will compete with their strong production capacity.

WHAT A SILLY THING TO SAY, IF YOUR THEORY ABOUT BIGGER IS BETTER THAN GERMANY AND JAPAN SHOULD BE THE POOREST NATIONS IN THE WORLD.

About the truth, your truth is Kashmir you call kashmiris fighting for freedom as terrorists, your truth is Gujrat and yiou call it a riot we call it a deliberately orchestrated massacre to win elections.

Babri mosque, we call it a despicable and extremist act and during this act of violance you police stood by and watch those goons destroying 500 years old monument.

 

[asq]

You mentioned yourself what was the reason for failure. First of it was first car, second that it need your media support first and third its you who must buy and not the western media. If you buy it will be always successful.

I was talking about the fact that I saw Indian car being promoted in media as a miracle as compare to Pakistani car, not even a word about it.

 

[Ruag]

An utterly irrelevant post.

Reports in Indian innovation-
Innovation from India: The Next Big Wave - BusinessWeek

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/...3876782-1191373775504/indiainnovationfull.pdf

Tell me, how many Pakistani science and tech count among Asia's best? Count the number of Indian institutes in this list by Asiaweek -

Asiaweek.com | Asia's Best Universities 2000 | Overall Ranking


Now for some more rankings to compare India and Pakistan -

Economic Freedom ranking -
http://www.freetheworld.com/2007/2007Dataset.xls

Literacy rate -
http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_20072008_EN_Complete.pdf

Global Competiveness Index -
http://www.weforum.org/pdf/GCR08/GCR08.pdf

The overwhelming bulk of India's economic growth comes from service sector (office) jobs where innovation is not an issue. These are basically paper pushing jobs, most of which do not require high levels of skill. Even the software jobs are mostly low level coding jobs which can be performed by anyone with a year of training. I know. We outsourced some of our work to India and the quality was less-than-stellar. India continues to get IT outsourced work because Indian labor is much cheaper than Western labor and even hiring three Indians is cheaper than hiring one American or Brit locally.

A report by Wall Street Journal -

Outlook for Outsourcing Spending Brightens - WSJ.com

WSJ -
India, in particular, fared well. HCL Technologies Ltd., based in Noida outside New Delhi, tops the list this year, among a wave of Indian companies that came out further ahead this year. Nearly 94% of companies surveyed say they would definitely consider India as an outsourcing destination for the right price, second only to the U.S. and significantly higher than other emerging markets like the Philippines and Eastern Europe. A proven track record will be crucial when companies start spending on outsourcing again, the report says...

For the first time this year, the survey asked clients to score outsourcers on accountability and trust. Indian companies scored highly, with 81% of clients saying that Indian companies had improved their accountability...

India's edge as an outsourcing destination is pushing out the competition from other developing countries, which have the same low wages as India but don't have the south Asian country's reputation. "It's the fourth year in a row that there's no Chinese firm," says Doug Brown, the other co-author.

New York times on India's manufacturing prowess -

NYT -
India's strong engineering base and expertise in the manufacturing of low-cost, fuel-efficient cars has resulted in the expansion of manufacturing facilities of several automobile companies like Hyundai Motors, Nissan, Toyota, Volkswagen and Suzuki.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/automobiles/28INDIA.html

I can go on and on.

I'm not saying that India is perfect.. we still have a long way to go. But to say that India's edge only lies in cheap labor and not in its technological abilities is 'mind-blasting'.

And yeah.. there is no scope for any comparison between India and Pakistan.

 

[asq]

I don't want to criticize Pakistan but there are several reasons why India is ahead of Pakistan. One of which is mentioned below -

*India had a overall score of 0.06 in the International Innovation Index while Pakistan had a score of -0.82.

http://www.nam.org/innovationreport.pdf

And there are western medias who are bent on harming Pakistan by printing these kind of false info same as they said that Pakistan will
fall into Pisces in 2009 and on the other hand some of them including India start supporting a small and local vagabonds/troublemakers separatists by paying them millions, we have the proof of it. we know it we shall fix it and one thing for sure we shall never support separatists in any country, after all we have class.

You if visited Pakistan u will rarely see people sleeping on the side walks, but in India miles and miles of side walks are used by homeless, Millions of people sleep on the side walks. Not in Pakistan.

Only beneficiary of development are rich and the famous, India is still the poorest of the poor. In many cases worse off than Pakistan.

So get off your high horse and see the light.