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Three French banks say they will not invest in Rampal power plant in Bangladesh. As the plant struggles for funding, a report says it is non-compliant with minimum environmental and social standards

Three French banks have said they will not invest in the Rampal power plant, Bangladesh. Six months earlier, two Norwegian pension funds pulled out their investments from India’s National Thermal Power Corporation that is building the project.

During his visit to Bangladesh on 6 June 2015, Indian prime minister Narendra Modi endorsed the 1,320 MW Rampal coal- based thermal power project. He said,

"The 1320 MW Rampal power project is making progress in accordance with your laws and regulation. We can do more together in power sector, here and in India.”

Under an agreement signed in 2012, India’s largest coal power company, the state-owned National Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) would develop the plant in Khulna division as a joint venture with Bangladesh’s Power Development Board.

Activists are concerned the plant, less than 10 miles from the protected Sundarbans mangrove forest, would lead to its environmental degradation from increased ship traffic, dredging, and pollution of air and water.

Before Modi arrived in Dhaka, activists urged the leaders of the two countries to stop the plant. On 21 May, the National Committee to Protect Oil, Gas, Mineral Resources, Power and Ports held a rally in front of the National Press Club. If the project wasn’t stopped, the secretary of the organisation said it would escalate the movement.

On 5 June, other organisations such as National Committee for Saving the Sundarban, Bangladesh Poribesh Andolan, Bangladesh Environmental Lawyers Association, and Poribesh Bachao Andolan renewed their call to scrap the plant.

Their fears are not unfounded. India’s first environmental rating of coal-fired thermal plants was published by the Green Rating Project of the Centre for Science and Environment, Delhi. Since NTPC refused to collaborate, the rating was based on primary data and publicly available information. In India, the company operates 25 thermal plants and a further nine under joint venture collaborations. Six of these plants scored poorly on environmental parameters, rating a mere 16 to 28% compared to the best possible rating of 80%.

Last month, three French banks declared they will not invest in the project. Stanislas Pottier, Global Head Sustainable Development of Crédit Agricole, said,

"Crédit Agricole SA Group has no plans to finance the Rampal coal power plant, in Bangladesh, given our intervention rules and the risks associated with this project.”

While Jean-Michel Mépuis, Sustainable Development and Social and Environmental Responsibility Director of Société Génerale, said,

"Societe Generale does not provide any financial advisory services and is not currently contemplating any financing related to the Khulna coal-fired power project, located in Rampal, Bangladesh.”

BNP Paribas, one of the corporate sponsors of the UN climate summit to be held in Paris in December 2015, also declined to invest in the plant.

Bank Track, a coalition of organisations tracking the financial sector, released itsanalysis of the Rampal plant under the Equator Principles, an environmental and social risk management framework for financial institutions. In its executive summary, the reports says,

The analysis shows that serious deficiencies in project design, planning, and implementation and due diligence obligations render the project non-compliant with the minimum social and environmental standards established by the Equator Principles, as well as the International Finance Corporation’s Performance Standards.

This failure to achieve even minimum standards could make any financial institution nervous of funding the project.

Loans are expected to fund up to 70% of the $1.5b project, while India and Bangladesh will fund the remaining 30% equally. However, the Bangladesh Planning Commission refused approval. It said the project was not compliant with the country’s existing policy nor was the funding and ownership of the plant clear. This leaves even the 15% Bangladesh stake in the project uncertain.

Even before funds can be raised to build the first plant, the Bangladesh power Development Board has inexplicably started acquiring land for a second plant.

Source: French banks say no to Bangladesh coal plant | Janaki Lenin | Environment | The Guardian

© 2015 Guardian News and Media Limited or its affiliated companies. All rights reserved.
 
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haseena can ask her BF modi jee:P he is rich after all;)

Modi's endorsement means nothing. We already know he is corrupt.

I'm glad this did not go forward. Coal-fired is a recipe for disaster in the Sundarbans unless it is Japanese technology. NTPC is literally in the dark ages as far as technology goes. Why should we go with NTPC when we can go with Hitachi, Mitsubishi or Sumitomo? Look at the Matarbari project and look at the plans. There is no comparison. You can get coal from India if its good quality - that's all.

We want to adopt good mature technology - not what is hobbled by environment-averse regulations or which is essentially built on third rate components. If it costs a little more it's fine. You don't build electricity grids or generation plants everyday.

Even in India NTPC is not the state of the art as far as this technology goes.
 
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Three French banks say they will not invest in Rampal power plant in Bangladesh. As the plant struggles for funding, a report says it is non-compliant with minimum environmental and social standards

Three French banks have said they will not invest in the Rampal power plant, Bangladesh. Six months earlier, two Norwegian pension funds pulled out their investments from India’s National Thermal Power Corporation that is building the project.

During his visit to Bangladesh on 6 June 2015, Indian prime minister Narendra Modi endorsed the 1,320 MW Rampal coal- based thermal power project. He said,

"The 1320 MW Rampal power project is making progress in accordance with your laws and regulation. We can do more together in power sector, here and in India.”

Under an agreement signed in 2012, India’s largest coal power company, the state-owned National Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) would develop the plant in Khulna division as a joint venture with Bangladesh’s Power Development Board.

Activists are concerned the plant, less than 10 miles from the protected Sundarbans mangrove forest, would lead to its environmental degradation from increased ship traffic, dredging, and pollution of air and water.

Before Modi arrived in Dhaka, activists urged the leaders of the two countries to stop the plant. On 21 May, the National Committee to Protect Oil, Gas, Mineral Resources, Power and Ports held a rally in front of the National Press Club. If the project wasn’t stopped, the secretary of the organisation said it would escalate the movement.

On 5 June, other organisations such as National Committee for Saving the Sundarban, Bangladesh Poribesh Andolan, Bangladesh Environmental Lawyers Association, and Poribesh Bachao Andolan renewed their call to scrap the plant.

Their fears are not unfounded. India’s first environmental rating of coal-fired thermal plants was published by the Green Rating Project of the Centre for Science and Environment, Delhi. Since NTPC refused to collaborate, the rating was based on primary data and publicly available information. In India, the company operates 25 thermal plants and a further nine under joint venture collaborations. Six of these plants scored poorly on environmental parameters, rating a mere 16 to 28% compared to the best possible rating of 80%.

Last month, three French banks declared they will not invest in the project. Stanislas Pottier, Global Head Sustainable Development of Crédit Agricole, said,

"Crédit Agricole SA Group has no plans to finance the Rampal coal power plant, in Bangladesh, given our intervention rules and the risks associated with this project.”

While Jean-Michel Mépuis, Sustainable Development and Social and Environmental Responsibility Director of Société Génerale, said,

"Societe Generale does not provide any financial advisory services and is not currently contemplating any financing related to the Khulna coal-fired power project, located in Rampal, Bangladesh.”

BNP Paribas, one of the corporate sponsors of the UN climate summit to be held in Paris in December 2015, also declined to invest in the plant.

Bank Track, a coalition of organisations tracking the financial sector, released itsanalysis of the Rampal plant under the Equator Principles, an environmental and social risk management framework for financial institutions. In its executive summary, the reports says,

The analysis shows that serious deficiencies in project design, planning, and implementation and due diligence obligations render the project non-compliant with the minimum social and environmental standards established by the Equator Principles, as well as the International Finance Corporation’s Performance Standards.

This failure to achieve even minimum standards could make any financial institution nervous of funding the project.

Loans are expected to fund up to 70% of the $1.5b project, while India and Bangladesh will fund the remaining 30% equally. However, the Bangladesh Planning Commission refused approval. It said the project was not compliant with the country’s existing policy nor was the funding and ownership of the plant clear. This leaves even the 15% Bangladesh stake in the project uncertain.

Even before funds can be raised to build the first plant, the Bangladesh power Development Board has inexplicably started acquiring land for a second plant.

Source: French banks say no to Bangladesh coal plant | Janaki Lenin | Environment | The Guardian

© 2015 Guardian News and Media Limited or its affiliated companies. All rights reserved.

The Bangladeshis need to make up their mine
 
Modi's endorsement means nothing. We already know he is corrupt.

I'm glad this did not go forward. Coal-fired is a recipe for disaster in the Sundarbans unless it is Japanese technology. NTPC is literally in the dark ages as far as technology goes. Why should we go with NTPC when we can go with Hitachi, Mitsubishi or Sumitomo? Look at the Matarbari project and look at the plans. There is no comparison. You can get coal from India if its good quality - that's all.

We want to adopt good mature technology - not what is hobbled by environment-averse regulations or which is essentially built on third rate components. If it costs a little more it's fine. You don't build electricity grids or generation plants everyday.

Even in India NTPC is not the state of the art as far as this technology goes.

India does not have good quality coal. We import good quality anthracite coal from Australia. But that is used for Iron & Steel industry. For power generation that much quality is not required.
And your post shows your lack of knowledge. NTPC ranks among top 500 companies in Forbes Global list with a net income of USD 2.32 billion. How many companies in Bangladesh can say the same ?
 
India does not have good quality coal. We import good quality anthracite coal from Australia. But that is used for Iron & Steel industry. For power generation that much quality is not required.
And your post shows your lack of knowledge. NTPC ranks among top 500 companies in Forbes Global list with a net income of USD 2.32 billion. How many companies in Bangladesh can say the same ?

I'd say you yourself have little clue about Power generation in Bangladesh (which is natural). We expect this patronizing attitude from Indians - but as usual you would be wrong. This is not India where we have to use NTPC. We are not obligated to use NTPC as a contractor. We'd rather use Chinese technology if we want to save a few bucks and then deal with the problems after commissioning which is rather foolish. Cheap is as cheap does.

To compare a market that has a Billion people and us is foolish, obviously we will not have large companies with that kind of turnover, but size was never a guarantee of quality.

In Bangladesh we have companies that routinely build barge mounted powerplants up to 300 or so megawatts and local companies can erect very large fertilizer and powerplants as well so I don't know what your point is. In the private sector more and more power generation plants are being designed and commissioned locally.

2.32 Billion is chump change for a power generation contractor. Each project is well worth two/three hundred million or more and I'm sure India itself is power hungry to have lots of projects. Load shedding is as common (or more) a problem in India as it is here.

The post I made was not to slight India as a country but the experience of NTPC as a builder of power generation projects.

The first power generation plants in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) were built in the early 50's with technology mostly unseen in India at that time - considering the then low penetration of technology in India. India mostly had antiquated coal-fired power stations at that time. But Pakistan was another story altogether.

As an example Ashuganj power project (in the 1960's) was built using technology from ABB, IHI and Mitsui. These were (and are) top-drawer power technology companies. Almost all power generation units in Bangladesh have been and are now commissioned mostly by world-leaders in their respective fields, such as combined cycle, gas turbine, coal-operated or even fuel oil technologies. The gas turbine (CCGT) plants in the Sylhet area were built by French, Swiss and Italian companies like Alstom, Brown Boveri and Ansaldo Energia.

Today all former plants including Ashuganj still exists after some fifty years and is running well (after BMRE) with additional installed capacity increased 300% in some cases. With NTPC's equipment this cannot be guaranteed. In fact I am sure of it.

I remember in the eighties going to Ashuganj and watching robots sense and then pluck weeds out of the inlet water. It was fascinating to me that this was analog technology but worked like clockwork.

I'd rather you not talk to us about NTPC being a high tech company. We are unfortunately well aware about Indian machinery and their quality. Our railways and bus operators are suffering every day with this 'quality'.

This is not meant as a slight to your country. It's not your fault either. You as a person are not responsible for the pervasive 'chalta hai' and 'don't give a sh!t' attitudes of millions of your countrymen which permeates everything they do. Accept it for what it is and let's move on.

Here is a rundown of all _Public-Sector_ gas units. Baghabari and Siddhirganj are the only units that were awarded to erected by BHEL at cut-rate prices and PDB is now paying the price.

Raozan Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 420
2 210 1997-09-21 - - ST-2 - - - - - -

Sikalbaha Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 88
2 28 1986-10-13 - - GT-1 - - - - - -

Ashuganj Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 724
Brown Boveri and Cie ST-1 - - Babcock and Wilcox - - 28.06
2 64 1970-07-08 - Brown Boveri and Cie ST-2 - - Babcock and Wilcox - - 28.06
3 56 1982-11-15 - GE Company GT-1 EM601B GE Company - Babcock Energy - - 20.14
4 56 1986-03-23 - GE Company GT-2 EM601B GE Company - Babcock Energy - - 20.14
5 34 1984-03-28 - GE Company ST GE Company - - - - -
6 150 1986-12-17 - - ST-3 - - - - - 31.86
7 150 1987-05-04 - - ST-4 - - - - - 31.86
8 150 1988-03-21 - - ST-5 - - - - - 31.86

Ghorasal Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 950
2 55 1976-02-13 - LMZ Russia ST-2 Electrosila - - - - -
3 210 1986-09-14 - LMZ Russia ST-3 Electrosila - - - - -
4 210 1989-03-18 - LMZ Russia ST-4 Electrosila - - - - -
5 210 1994-09-15 - LMZ Russia ST-5 Electrosila - - - - -
6 210 1999-01-31 - LMZ Russia ST-6 Electrosila - - - - -

Meghnaghat CCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 450
Ansaldo GT-1 V94.2 Siemens - Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) - - -
2 150 2002-11-26 - Ansaldo GT-2 V94.2 Siemens - Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) - - -
3 150 2002-11-26 - Ansaldo ST-1 Siemens - - - - -

Haripur CCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 360
MHI GT-1 M701F Melco - NEM - - -
2 125 2001-12-01 - MHI ST-1 Melco - - - - -

Siddhirganj Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 210
LMZ - Electrosila - Taganrog - - -

Siddhirganj OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 240
BHEL India - BHEL India - - - - -
2 120 2010-00-00 - BHEL India - BHEL India - - - - -

Haripur OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 96

Tongi OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 105

Fenchuganj CCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 97
GT-1 - - - - - 41.55
2 32 1995-01-31 - - GT-2 - - - - - 41.55
3 33 1995-06-08 - - ST-1 - - - - - 41.55

Shahjibazar OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 130
Brown Boveri and Cie GT - - - - - -
2 35 2000-03-28 - Alstom GT 6001B Alstom - - - - -
3 35 2000-10-25 - Alstom GT 6001B Alstom - - - - -

Baghabari OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 171
GT-1 - - - - - -
2 100 2001-11-25 - BHEL GT-2 9001E BHEL - - - - -
 
I'd say you yourself have little clue about Power generation in Bangladesh (which is natural). We expect this patronizing attitude from Indians - but as usual you would be wrong. This is not India where we have to use NTPC. We are not obligated to use NTPC as a contractor. We'd rather use Chinese technology if we want to save a few bucks and then deal with the problems after commissioning which is rather foolish. Cheap is as cheap does.

To compare a market that has a Billion people and us is foolish, obviously we will not have large companies with that kind of turnover, but size was never a guarantee of quality.

In Bangladesh we have companies that routinely build barge mounted powerplants up to 300 or so megawatts and local companies can erect very large fertilizer and powerplants as well so I don't know what your point is. In the private sector more and more power generation plants are being designed and commissioned locally.

2.32 Billion is chump change for a power generation contractor. Each project is well worth two/three hundred million or more and I'm sure India itself is power hungry to have lots of projects. Load shedding is as common (or more) a problem in India as it is here.

The post I made was not to slight India as a country but the experience of NTPC as a builder of power generation projects.

The first power generation plants in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) were built in the early 50's with technology mostly unseen in India at that time - considering the then low penetration of technology in India. India mostly had antiquated coal-fired power stations at that time. But Pakistan was another story altogether.

As an example Ashuganj power project (in the 1960's) was built using technology from ABB, IHI and Mitsui. These were (and are) top-drawer power technology companies. Almost all power generation units in Bangladesh have been and are now commissioned mostly by world-leaders in their respective fields, such as combined cycle, gas turbine, coal-operated or even fuel oil technologies. The gas turbine (CCGT) plants in the Sylhet area were built by French, Swiss and Italian companies like Alstom, Brown Boveri and Ansaldo Energia.

Today all former plants including Ashuganj still exists after some fifty years and is running well (after BMRE) with additional installed capacity increased 300% in some cases. With NTPC's equipment this cannot be guaranteed. In fact I am sure of it.

I remember in the eighties going to Ashuganj and watching robots sense and then pluck weeds out of the inlet water. It was fascinating to me that this was analog technology but worked like clockwork.

I'd rather you not talk to us about NTPC being a high tech company. We are unfortunately well aware about Indian machinery and their quality. Our railways and bus operators are suffering every day with this 'quality'.

This is not meant as a slight to your country. It's not your fault either. You as a person are not responsible for the pervasive 'chalta hai' and 'don't give a sh!t' attitudes of millions of your countrymen which permeates everything they do. Accept it for what it is and let's move on.

Here is a rundown of all _Public-Sector_ gas units. Baghabari and Siddhirganj are the only units that were awarded to erected by BHEL at cut-rate prices and PDB is now paying the price.

Raozan Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 420
2 210 1997-09-21 - - ST-2 - - - - - -

Sikalbaha Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 88
2 28 1986-10-13 - - GT-1 - - - - - -

Ashuganj Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 724
Brown Boveri and Cie ST-1 - - Babcock and Wilcox - - 28.06
2 64 1970-07-08 - Brown Boveri and Cie ST-2 - - Babcock and Wilcox - - 28.06
3 56 1982-11-15 - GE Company GT-1 EM601B GE Company - Babcock Energy - - 20.14
4 56 1986-03-23 - GE Company GT-2 EM601B GE Company - Babcock Energy - - 20.14
5 34 1984-03-28 - GE Company ST GE Company - - - - -
6 150 1986-12-17 - - ST-3 - - - - - 31.86
7 150 1987-05-04 - - ST-4 - - - - - 31.86
8 150 1988-03-21 - - ST-5 - - - - - 31.86

Ghorasal Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 950
2 55 1976-02-13 - LMZ Russia ST-2 Electrosila - - - - -
3 210 1986-09-14 - LMZ Russia ST-3 Electrosila - - - - -
4 210 1989-03-18 - LMZ Russia ST-4 Electrosila - - - - -
5 210 1994-09-15 - LMZ Russia ST-5 Electrosila - - - - -
6 210 1999-01-31 - LMZ Russia ST-6 Electrosila - - - - -

Meghnaghat CCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 450
Ansaldo GT-1 V94.2 Siemens - Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) - - -
2 150 2002-11-26 - Ansaldo GT-2 V94.2 Siemens - Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) - - -
3 150 2002-11-26 - Ansaldo ST-1 Siemens - - - - -

Haripur CCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 360
MHI GT-1 M701F Melco - NEM - - -
2 125 2001-12-01 - MHI ST-1 Melco - - - - -

Siddhirganj Gas Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 210
LMZ - Electrosila - Taganrog - - -

Siddhirganj OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 240
BHEL India - BHEL India - - - - -
2 120 2010-00-00 - BHEL India - BHEL India - - - - -

Haripur OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 96

Tongi OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 105

Fenchuganj CCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 97
GT-1 - - - - - 41.55
2 32 1995-01-31 - - GT-2 - - - - - 41.55
3 33 1995-06-08 - - ST-1 - - - - - 41.55

Shahjibazar OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 130
Brown Boveri and Cie GT - - - - - -
2 35 2000-03-28 - Alstom GT 6001B Alstom - - - - -
3 35 2000-10-25 - Alstom GT 6001B Alstom - - - - -

Baghabari OCGT Power Plant Bangladesh
Design Capacity (MWe): 171
GT-1 - - - - - -
2 100 2001-11-25 - BHEL GT-2 9001E BHEL - - - - -


A verbose post, but does not address the question.

1. How is some perceived Chinese solution better than some perceived solution provided by NTPC ? To answer that question, first we need to know what those solutions are. Do you know ?

2. Again, you seriously need to educate yourself. There are so many gaps that I can see. It's quote evident, because you are just asserting convictions and nothing more.
If X is better than Y then better how ? or if X is bad then how did you reach that conclusion ?

How many 'power generation companies' in the World have profit in the range of USD 2.32 billion ?
 
A verbose post, but does not address the question.

1. How is some perceived Chinese solution better than some perceived solution provided by NTPC ? To answer that question, first we need to know what those solutions are. Do you know ?

2. Again, you seriously need to educate yourself. There are so many gaps that I can see. It's quote evident, because you are just asserting convictions and nothing more.
If X is better than Y then better how ? or if X is bad then how did you reach that conclusion ?

How many 'power generation companies' in the World have profit in the range of USD 2.32 billion ?

These above would beg the question - if I answered technically, would it be worth something to you?

Are you in the heavy electrical and power generation field to know something and differentiate the solutions being discussed?
 
These above would beg the question - if I answered technically, would it be worth something to you?

Are you in the heavy electrical and power generation field to know something and differentiate the solutions being discussed?

Hahaha.. Don't be apprehensive in sharing knowledge, you don't loose anything.

Be rest assured you are not talking to a layman.
 
i personaly against this project...........:feminist:
 
Now is not the time to be picky about emission, emission can be addressed later. The economy needs power to grow.
 

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