European court: Swiss Muslim girls must swim with boys

[Blue Marlin]

Here in Sweden, we have separate changing rooms, before we enter the mixed gender Sauna.

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but naked?

 

[Krishnan]

European Court of Human Rights upholds fines on Swiss Muslim parents who refused mixed swimming lessons for daughters.


The European Court of Human Rights upheld a decision of a Swiss court backing fines on Muslim parents who refused to allow their daughters to take part in mixed swimming lessons on the basis of their religion.

The parents, both Turkish-Swiss dual nationals, appealed to the court over a fine handed down by education authorities after they declined to send two of their daughters to mixed swimming lessons.

They said that the requirement, imposed by the school up until the age of puberty as part of its physical education curriculum, violated their right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion enshrined in article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

While the court acknowledged that the requirement was an interference with the freedom of religion, it ruled that the interference represented a "legitimate aim" to protect foreign pupils from social exclusion.

European court: Swiss Muslim girls must swim with boys
Swiss Muslim girls must learn to swim with boys, court rules

This is great news. Muslims in the West need to drop all of their cultural baggage and assimilate into the culture of their host countries. If they find that too hard to do then they can move to the numerous Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Why a girl have to swim with boys. If there are man's toilet and women toilet then why not separate swim for girls and boys. Europe should respect the culture of others . If anyone feel uncomfortable swim in front of other gender you can't force him/her doing that.

I'm sorry, I must have missed something here. Do you do in the swimming pool what you do in the toilet, sir?

The world must stand up to the bullying of Islamists. Most of all, musims themselves must stand up to the Islamists.

 

[Avicenna]

I'm sorry, I must have missed something here. Do you do in the swimming pool what you do in the toilet, sir?

The world must stand up to the bullying of Islamists. Most of all, musims themselves must stand up to the Islamists.

I wonder what Orthodox Jews do about swimming.

 

[Safriz]

Welcome to Soviet Europe where state forces you to lose your dignity

Time to stop using Nestle products, a Swiss company.
If they don't like our values, they shouldn't get our money.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Welcome to Soviet Europe where state forces you to lose your dignity

There are 56 (if I'm not wrong) Islamic countries in the world. You're free to live in any of them if you don't like Europe.

 

[Arefin007]

I'm sorry, I must have missed something here. Do you do in the swimming pool what you do in the toilet, sir?

The world must stand up to the bullying of Islamists. Most of all, musims themselves must stand up to the Islamists.

It is frowned upon for Muslim girls to expose themselves too much in front of boys. My sisters went to separate swimming classes exclusively for girls in Luton. i don't expect an indian like u to understand that. stop bugging us leave us alone

 

[Indika]

then the parents should have looked for girls only school .

dude such things will never end. Next they will say no to males in girls school. Then why schooling is needed for girls and henceforth. It will finally end up in asking for a separate country.

There are 56 (if I'm not wrong) Islamic countries in the world. You're free to live in any of them if you don't like Europe.

exactly, when some other society is hosting these ppl, they should atleast have some sense of knowing what to ask for. Trying to change the host itself looks ridiculous.

No wonder far right is gaining in Europe.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

It is frowned upon for Muslim girls to expose themselves too much in front of boys.

Those 'frowing' are free to move to a place without Western values. You dont HAVE TO bear what you claim to be bearing.

The 'frowning' ones are the exact very Islamists who need to be fought against.

My sisters went to separate swimming classes exclusively for girls in Luton. i don't expect an indian like u to understand that. stop bugging us leave us alone

Luton, eh? I think I have a fair idea where you're coming from.

 

[Safriz]

There are 56 (if I'm not wrong) Islamic countries in the world. You're free to live in any of them if you don't like Europe.

But only one Hindu country. In Hindu culture also such mixing isn't liked.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

exactly, when some other society is hosting these ppl, they should atleast have some sense of knowing what to ask for. Trying to change the host itself looks ridiculous.

No wonder far right is gaining in Europe.

You know that's the reason Indians are so well respected everywhere in the world. We adopt the culture and the values of the land we make home.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

U moan when u people face similiar issues.... sikhs cryin over turbans etc good example of ur hypocrisy

As far as I'm concerned, the Sikhs should, with all due respect to them, should abandon the turban. It's an outdated concept and doesn't go well with the issues of the modern world.

Anything that makes an individual or his/her religious preferences stand out from the crowd should be abandoned.

Religion belongs in the home; behind closed doors.

...and this is coming from a half-Sikh.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

As far as I'm concerned, the Sikhs should, with all due respect to them, should abandon the turban. It's an outdated concept and doesn't go well with the issues of the modern world. ome, behind

Anything that makes an individual or his/her religious preferences stand out from the crowd should be abandoned.

Religion belongs in the home; behind closed doors.

...and this is coming from a half-Sikh.

For us our religion is a way of life... it guides our life... if swiss idiots think swimmin = assimilation good for them... so much for the chest thumping over tolerance and so on...

p.s: sikh isnt a race.. so ur either a sikh or not ... nothing in between,

 

[Krishnan]

It is frowned upon for Muslim girls to expose themselves too much in front of boys. My sisters went to separate swimming classes exclusively for girls in Luton. i don't expect an indian like u to understand that. stop bugging us leave us alone

I have been to Luton and Bradford and from what I observed many Muslim guys and girls aren't really practicing. My ex was from Luton and she was a Muslim. I think that's the case with most Muslims in the West who subconsciously or consciously have adopted Western culture. It's not uncommon to see girls with hijabs in bars & nightclubs.

 

[Luffy 500]

Switzerland has won a case at the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) obliging Muslim parents to send their children to mixed swimming lessons.

It said authorities were justified in giving precedence to enforcing "the full school curriculum" and the children's "successful integration" into society.

The ECHR acknowledged that religious freedom was being interfered with.

But judges said it did not amount to a violation.

The case was brought by two Swiss nationals, of Turkish origin, who refused to send their teenage daughters to the compulsory mixed lessons in the city of Basel.

Education officials, however, said that exemptions were available only for girls who had reached the age of puberty - which the girls had not reached at the time.

In 2010, after a long-running dispute, the parents were ordered to pay a combined fine of 1,400 Swiss Francs ($1,380, £1,136) "for acting in breach of their parental duty".

They argued that such treatment was a violation of article nine of the European Convention on Human Rights, which covers the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion.

In a statement, the ECHR said the refusal to exempt the girls had interfered with the right to freedom of religion.

But it also said the law involved was designed to "protect foreign pupils from any form of social exclusion" and Switzerland was free to design its education system according to its own needs and traditions.

Schools, it said, played an important role in social integration, and exemptions from some lessons are "justified only in very exceptional circumstances".



Swimming, burkinis, and integration

• In 2016, officials in Basel suspended the citizenship process for the family of two teenage Muslim brothers who refused to shake hands with female teachers.
• Switzerland has also applied the law to other cases - a man of Bosnian origin was fined last year for refusing to allow his daughter to take part in swimming lessons during school hours, among other activities.
• Germany also battled with the issue of mixed swimming lessons in 2013, when a judge ruled that a 13-year-old girl must attend - but allowed the wearing of a burkini.
• In France, in 2009, a woman was banned from swimming in a public pool in her burkini. That would be followed in 2016 by a controversial official ban on the garment in public spaces - which was eventually overturned by French courts.
• France, Belgium, and the Netherlands all have bans on Muslim veils in public, to varying degrees.

"Accordingly, the children's interest in a full education, thus facilitating their successful social integration according to local customs and mores, prevailed over the parents' wish to have their children exempted from mixed swimming lessons," the court said.

The court also noted that "very flexible arrangements" had been offered as a compromise, including allowing the girls to wear burkinis during lessons rather than traditional swimwear, and allowing them to change clothes with no boys in the room.

Swiss Muslim girls must learn to swim with boys, court rules
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38569428
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The intrusive intolerant nature of secular Europe strikes again. Also notice here how the court sided with the dominant liberal culture of Switzerland. Did the secular court remain fair objective in this case? These European human rights are arbitrarily set by humans and they can arbitrarily discard them anytime they want citing "exceptional circumstances" and "need for integration".


Btw I have NO problem with switzerland making their laws. Its their country with a liberal irreligious majority. But this same switzerland and EU wants muslim world to adopt their satanic values and laws and they have been in a never ending secular crusade into the muslim world over the last 200 years for this reason. There secular agents in muslim lands have been vigorously propagating these values in muslim lands as well, all the while they cheer the western bombing on muslim lands. Their NGO and HR groups cringe and cry at every single muslim matters NOT in line with their standard of rights and wrongs. Muslims countries (those that call themselves islamic) should weed out these liberal secularist cancers and the incubator NGOs from their countries asap if they want societal stability and peaceful development.

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