Documentry|SSG 6 commando battalion operation in aurkazayi agency 2012|Capt Tariq Jamal shaheed

[Soldier-X]

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[Bratva]

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Light commando battalion isn't being used in compound clearing Ops and SSG is still the lead in such Ops and taking hits in Orakzai ops or in Zarb e Azb, it defeats the purpose for which it was raised, nai ?

For discussions sake, after watching video,, IF SSG had Corner shot and observed the compound before entering in to it, wouldn't it minimized the damage? But they don't use it, is it because they hinder mobility which is required in such ops ?

@Irfan Baloch @Icarus @balixd @Fulcrum15

Can any of you guys confirm if LCB is taking part in Zarb e azb at all?

 

[chauvunist]

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Light commando battalion isn't being used in compound clearing Ops and SSG is still taking lead in such Ops and taking hits. In Orakzai ops or in Zarb e Azb, it defeats the purpose for which it was raised, nai ?

For discussions sake, after watching video,, IF SSG had Corner shot and observed the compound before entering in to it and taking direct hits, wouldn't it had minimized the damage? But they don't use it, is it because of they hinder mobility which is required in such ops ?

@Irfan Baloch @Icarus @balixd @Fulcrum15

Can any of you guys confirm if LCB is taking part in Zarb e azb at all?

That's exactly what i have been thinking about,Is it only for Urban warfare or such clearance ops like Zarb e azb as well

 

[Irfan Baloch]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=911379715557115

Light commando battalion isn't being used in compound clearing Ops and SSG is still the lead in such Ops and taking hits in Orakzai ops or in Zarb e Azb, it defeats the purpose for which it was raised, nai ?

For discussions sake, after watching video,, IF SSG had Corner shot and observed the compound before entering in to it, wouldn't it minimized the damage? But they don't use it, is it because they hinder mobility which is required in such ops ?

@Irfan Baloch @Icarus @balixd @Fulcrum15

Can any of you guys confirm if LCB is taking part in Zarb e azb at all?

yes according to my source , an interview I took mentioned the use of FC personnel in one such special operation in Shakai and Hassu Khel

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

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yes according to my source , an interview I took mentioned the use of FC personnel in one such special operation in Shakai and Hassu Khel

bhai hes asking about the newly raise Light Commando Bat --NLI.

 

[Amaa'n]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=911379715557115

Light commando battalion isn't being used in compound clearing Ops and SSG is still the lead in such Ops and taking hits in Orakzai ops or in Zarb e Azb, it defeats the purpose for which it was raised, nai ?

For discussions sake, after watching video,, IF SSG had Corner shot and observed the compound before entering in to it, wouldn't it minimized the damage? But they don't use it, is it because they hinder mobility which is required in such ops ?


Can any of you guys confirm if LCB is taking part in Zarb e azb at all?

internet connectivity is bad these days for me - can you share a different source???
as far as LCB is concerned then what i have been told is it was purely SSG op, they took the lead, they cleaned it all up , however in few of the cases LCB was used for clean up operation -- they did not lead the op ----
now use of corner shot is concerned then, it is best suited for urban warfare, CQC, Counter Terrorism operation - i.e attack on kamra base, karachi airport, ghq etc ---
it is a sophisticated equipment and cannot stand the wear and tear in the field operations ---
there is a clear difference between Field Ops and CQC, buildings

 

[Amaa'n]

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Light commando battalion isn't being used in compound clearing Ops and SSG is still the lead in such Ops and taking hits in Orakzai ops or in Zarb e Azb, it defeats the purpose for which it was raised, nai ?

For discussions sake, after watching video,, IF SSG had Corner shot and observed the compound before entering in to it, wouldn't it minimized the damage? But they don't use it, is it because they hinder mobility which is required in such ops ?

Can any of you guys confirm if LCB is taking part in Zarb e azb at all?

and who told you LCB was raised to carry out such ops ???
as far as I know LCB has been raised more along the line of 75th Ranger and UK's Special Forces Support Group - that includes Para Regiment - carrying out Mountain warfare that requires long enduring patrols, Heli borne / heli drop ops, QRF to SSG etc

 

[Jango]

and who told you LCB was raised to carry out such ops ???
as far as I know LCB has been raised more along the line of 75th Ranger and UK's Special Forces Support Group - that includes Para Regiment - carrying out Mountain warfare that requires long enduring patrols, Heli borne / heli drop ops, QRF to SSG etc

That's how I understood it.

They weren't meant to take up the SSG role and be a team of crack troops ready for action anywhere.

There role as far as CI is concerned is being a QRF, and in strategic terms they are as you said, a bridge b/w SSG and regular infantry. But they aren't going to be doing recce and targeting etc.

Obviously Icarus can shed more light on this topic.

 

[Amaa'n]

That's how I understood it.

They weren't meant to take up the SSG role and be a team of crack troops ready for action anywhere.

There role as far as CI is concerned is being a QRF, and in strategic terms they are as you said, a bridge b/w SSG and regular infantry. But they aren't going to be doing recce and targeting etc.

Obviously Icarus can shed more light on this topic.

we llearned our lessons from 2009 op, when SSG was over stretched for long enduring patrols and mountain warfare, CQC, even when the op was over, hence to provide the relief to SSG and as you said bridge the gap LCB was raised, what I have been told is these guys undergo same training as SSG, excluding the survival course, and some specialist courses - other than that Fast Rope, heli borne, mountain warfare, Marksman training, explosives training, all is same ---lets see what @Icarus has to says

 

[Bratva]

internet connectivity is bad these days for me - can you share a different source???
as far as LCB is concerned then what i have been told is it was purely SSG op, they took the lead, they cleaned it all up , however in few of the cases LCB was used for clean up operation -- they did not lead the op ----
now use of corner shot is concerned then, it is best suited for urban warfare, CQC, Counter Terrorism operation - i.e attack on kamra base, karachi airport, ghq etc ---
it is a sophisticated equipment and cannot stand the wear and tear in the field operations ---
there is a clear difference between Field Ops and CQC, buildings

It's re-enactment of a compound clearing mission in which Captain tariq 6 Cdo SSG got shaheed. There were two teams, one provided fire support. 1st team infiltrated 12 KM, climbed a hill, infiltrated compound

Speaking of LCB, Gen.Raheel witnessed LCB demonstration in Multan couple days back.

and who told you LCB was raised to carry out such ops ???
as far as I know LCB has been raised more along the line of 75th Ranger and UK's Special Forces Support Group - that includes Para Regiment - carrying out Mountain warfare that requires long enduring patrols, Heli borne / heli drop ops, QRF to SSG etc

IIRC, once LCB was created, someone somewhere said, it's purpose was to relieve pressure off SSG from such frequently occur CQB, Comp-Clearing, QRF mission which will reduce casualties of SSG and and reorient them back to their original purpose, deep infil and exfil.

So I was under wrong impression that LCB would be taking lead on such missions.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

That's how I understood it.

They weren't meant to take up the SSG role and be a team of crack troops ready for action anywhere.

There role as far as CI is concerned is being a QRF, and in strategic terms they are as you said, a bridge b/w SSG and regular infantry. But they aren't going to be doing recce and targeting etc.

Obviously Icarus can shed more light on this topic.

on the contrary

they did exactly that in Kargil and are recognized for that

they are highly mobile and trained to be the first in the engagements. they are organised and trained on the US Army rangers principle.

reccy, flanking attack, full frontal attack, disruptions, behind enemy lines operations .. more or less on the same lines as SSG.

only difference is that they may hold the position until regular and heavier mounted infantry replaces
them.