China's Xinjiang Crackdown Jeopardizes Ties With Turkey, Muslim World.

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    Remember buddy whole Central Asian are Turkic people, Turkey would need negligible effort to create their influence there.
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    Reminds me of when Saudi Arabia was suppose to slap Russia in the face only to get itself slapped by Russia and China, I hardly doubt the Muslim world which is fighting itself which cannot even come together on Israel come against china. Armenia expelled 1 million Azeri muslims and no response from the muslim world, china you don't have to worry about a bunch of backward Gulf arabs or Turks that cannot back themselves up.
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    go through history first...:tup: (who invited whom..)
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    They won't they keep meddling in places where they are not welcomed in Syria, Central Asia, Xinjiang, Cyprus. thats why russia and armenia had to teach them a lesson.

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    Yeah Turkish police going after a Russian that was aided by Turkey.
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    There is a difference between police and secrent agency you know that right? I mean, atleast you should know the difference between police and secret agency :)
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    I thought Russian only don't want Americans in Central Asia.
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    Historically, we fought against many Turkic tribes, but we also had some deep tie with the Turkic race, many of our emperors also did have the Turkic bloodline.

    Same with Russia, they also have many cultural connection with the Turkic Tatars.

    Thus it is impossible for us to fight against the whole Turkic race, but we are against their Neo-Ottomanism imperialistic act against their neighbors.
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    They neither want Americans nor Turks in Central Asia.
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    I think you are confusing the "Tujue" with the Huns/Xiongnu who were "driven away" around the time of Christ.

    Both the early Tang and its predecessor Sui were for a time "tributary" states to the various Tujue tribes that grew powerful during 五胡 period (using Chinese history as a reference). Tang was an explicit vassal to "East Tujue" in its early days, until East Tujue itself fell again.

    We won't discuss "Western Tujue", or prototype "Oghuz Turks" here.

    There was this fascinating (to me at least), if one might say "anti-China", "anti-Persia", and anti-a-lot-of-of-other-things pan-"turkist" history section as part of this website called "Ozturkler.com (or .org ..), until it was taken down a year or two ago. Ergo better not have done it or I'd be upset.

    I learned many more "facts" about "middle Chinese" history from that website than from any other source in recent memory.

    If any Turks know if the site is "resurrected" in a different name or elsewhere - I just care about the history section, please inform and I would appreciate.
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    You offer noting but BS as usual, if Turkish agents did help a Russian Agent come into to turkey and assassinate a chechen then there would hardly be any news turkey accused russia.

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    Russia managed to beat the turks so bad they got kicked out of the balkans.
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    This is because the radical Pan-Turanism is their mortal enemy, yet they still treat their Tatar brothers quite nicely, just like how we treat our Uighur brothers.
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    Actually neo ottomonism is the worst thing I'm glad the Arabs helped destroy the Ottoman empire for good. even today turkey still wants influence in Arab countries, syria the most that is why we won't accept, we even shelled inside turkey.
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    Tiger, you are a bright dude.

    This "Neo-Ottomanism" is but a cover for "Neo-Byzantinism" by the rather broad-based elites and their ("Turkified" Anatolian Hellenes) to assert influence in traditional Byzantine territory and prevent chaos.

    The "neo-ottomanism" is a modifier, and to some extent, an "anti-dote" to the pan-Tujue tendancies. The "Panturkist" sentiment definitely has its grassroot support. But most importantly it was sponsored by xxxxxxx against Russian and Iran, and at the very last, maybe China.

    Think Tiger, think.

    The current occupants of "Khanbaliq" should not concern themselves with "neo-ottomanism" so much, rather it is a "complementary" development. Though brother SCP may cast a weary eye.
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    Dear mods.

    Pls clear out the baboos from Hindustan.

    Otherwise it's a waste of time for anyone else.
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    Oh,who was that emperor?
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