Beijing looks to safeguard region's parity

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Beijing looks to safeguard region's parity

China Daily, July 29, 2016

The Chinese military said on Thursday that it will consider taking "necessary measures" to protect national security and regional strategic balance, in response to the decision by the United States and the Republic of Korea to deploy an advanced missile defense system in the ROK.

China seeks development of its own missile defense system, Defense Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun confirmed at the ministry's monthly news conference.

"We will closely follow relative moves of the US and the ROK and will consider taking necessary measures to protect national strategic security and regional strategic balance," Yang said.

Yang also responded to a report on Monday in PLA Daily that quoted missile defense expert Chen Deming as saying that Beijing has the capabilities for a land-based defense system to intercept missiles midway in their trajectory.

"China seeks moderate development of its anti-missile capabilities to protect national security and raise defense capabilities. It is not targeting any country or target and will not impact global strategic stability," Yang said.

Washington and Seoul said in a joint announcement on July 8 that the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system will be deployed to deal with the Democratic People's Republic of Korea's nuclear and missile threats.

China and Russia expressed strong opposition to the system, whose radar will be capable of monitoring missiles in the two countries, saying it will destabilize the balance of security in the region.

Xie Yongliang, an expert at the PLA's Academy of Military Science, said the repeated success of China's midcourse missile defense tests shows that "China has fully grasped key technologies about anti-ballistic missiles".

Ruan Zongze, vice-president of the China Institute of International Studies, said it is unwise for Seoul to accept the deployment of THAAD on its territory.

"China and Russia will certainly strengthen military implementation targeted at the THAAD system, which will actually push the ROK to the front line of confrontation of major powers".

Yang also announced that China and Russia have decided to hold a joint military exercise in the South China Sea in September. He said the "routine" exercise will deepen ties between the two nations and two militaries and "strengthen the two navies' capabilities to jointly handle security threats from the sea", adding that it is not targeted at third parties.

China and Russia have held joint maritime exercises annually since 2012. The two countries take turns holding the drills in their adjacent waters.

Vladimir Petrovsky, a researcher at the Institute of Far Eastern Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, said the regional tensions have become a common concern for both countries, and military cooperation such as joint drills is a good way to respond to threats in the region.

http://www.china.org.cn/china/2016-07/29/content_38981568.htm

 

[Jlaw]

@Beidou2020 again reactive. US talked about putting missile shield in SK For four years now. China just beginning to think about countering it now. Should have done it years ago.

 

[Beidou2020]

@Beidou2020 again reactive. US talked about putting missile shield in SK For four years now. China just beginning to think about countering it now. Should have done it years ago.

Exactly.

China must have experts/think tanks that advise Chinese leaders what future steps to take. Predict different scenarios and have solutions in place for each scenario.

You have to be 2 steps ahead of your opponent. Like chess.

If South Korea wants THAAD, then China should respond by abolishing the No-First-Use nuclear policy and boosting the nuclear arsenal to around 10,000 warheads.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Exactly.

China must have experts/think tanks that advise Chinese leaders what future steps to take. Predict different scenarios and have solutions in place for each scenario.

You have to be 2 steps ahead of your opponent. Like chess.

If South Korea wants THAAD, then China should respond by abolishing the No-First-Use nuclear policy and boosting the nuclear arsenal to around 10,000 warheads.

SK is the one to blame here. They should have realised that this action will be a security threat to bothh China and Russia.

Not smart.

THAAD is not a defensive weapon but an offensive one.

IT will be monitoring in real time deeper into Chinese and Russian airspace.

SK should have acted with wisdom and long term thinking.

Now what can be done is the question?

Only military response to THAAD is not enough.

What can be done to discourage SK and JP from such counterproductive actions in the future?

 

[Beidou2020]

SK is the one to blame here. They should have realised that this action will be a security threat to bothh China and Russia.

Not smart.

THAAD is not a defensive weapon but an offensive one.

IT will be monitoring in real time deeper into Chinese and Russian airspace.

SK should have acted with wisdom and long term thinking.

Now what can be done is the question?

Only military response to THAAD is not enough.

What can be done to discourage SK and JP from such counterproductive actions in the future?

Putin said recently that these 'defensive' weapons can be turned into offensive weapons very quickly.

The US uses destabilising tactics to destroy bilateral relationships between countries.

The US did it with Japan by getting the Japanese right wingers to 'nationalise' the Diaoyu islands just at the time when China-Japan relations were booming. The US considered good China-Japan relations as a threat to its hegemony and decided to find something to stir up trouble.

Same thing the US is doing with South Korea. China-South Korea relations are booming with a lot of trade. The US wants to destroy this relationship by stirring up trouble.

The US finds weak spots between nations and targets them. The two countries end up with sour relations and the US hegemon ends up as the winner.

The US wants to destroy trade relationships between China and its neighbours by stirring up trouble to benefit the US economy and hurt the Chinese economy.

China has always concentrated on building economic relationships with countries with:
1) trade
2) investment
3) financing
4) infrastructure building
5) aid

China has not been building military relationships with countries like it has done with economics. Not to the same extent anyway.

China must develop the military component of the overall bilateral relationship by having:
1) REGULAR military exercises.
2) REGULAR military meetings between top officials.
3) joint-weapons development.
4) sell Chinese weapons.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Putin said recently that these 'defensive' weapons can be turned into offensive weapons very quickly.

The US uses destabilising tactics to destroy bilateral relationships between countries.

The US did it with Japan by getting the Japanese right wingers to 'nationalise' the Diaoyu islands just at the time when China-Japan relations were booming. The US considered good China-Japan relations as a threat to its hegemony and decided to find something to stir up trouble.

Same thing the US is doing with South Korea. China-South Korea relations are booming with a lot of trade. The US wants to destroy this relationship by stirring up trouble.

The US finds weak spots between nations and targets them. The two countries end up with sour relations and the US hegemon ends up as the winner.

The US wants to destroy trade relationships between China and its neighbours by stirring up trouble.

China has always concentrated on building economic relationships with countries with:
1) trade
2) investment
3) financing
4) infrastructure building
5) aid

China has not been building military relationships with countries like it has done with economics. Not to the same extent anyway.

China must develop the military component of the overall bilateral relationship by having:
1) REGULAR military exercises.
2) REGULAR military meetings between top officials.
3) joint-weapons development.
4) sell Chinese weapons.

US strategy in Europe =

Keep Germany down,

Keep Russia boxed.

Never allow German Russian strategic partnership.

Stir the nationlism in the eastern europe.

US strategy in Asia =

Keep China contained,

Perevent NE Asian economic integeration.

Keep SE Asia divided and make then scared of China.

Pump up India as a counter to China.


ME & African strategies are sadly all too open to see.

The biggest threat to all these strategies is = OBOR.

 

[Beidou2020]

US strategy in Europe =

Keep Germany down,

Keep Russia boxed.

Never allow German Russian strategic partnership.

Stir the nationlism in the eastern europe.

US strategy in Asia =

Keep China contained,

Perevent NE Asian economic integeration.

Keep SE Asia divided and make then scared of China.

Pump up India as a counter to China.


ME & African strategies are sadly all too open to see.

The biggest threat to all these strategies is = OBOR.

Exactly.

No one has yet found a counter strategy to the divide and conquer strategy of the West.

Maybe OBOR is a counter, but there needs to be prevention of colour revolutions through NGOs, coups, etc.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Exactly.

No one has yet found a counter strategy to the divide and conquer strategy of the West.

Maybe OBOR is a counter, but there needs to be prevention of colour revolutions through NGOs, coups, etc.

Imperilism never died, young brother.

It only consutructed an even more vicious mechanism when the colonies where given their 'independence'.

OBOR is being fought and sobotaged by all means possible.

OBOR is a different framework. A framework of independence and co-develpment.

A Community of Prosperity vs. An empire of Chaos.

Just look at Pak...afghan is used by the troublemakers to kill and destroy pak people.

Traitors are used by the same to sabotage the CPEC. Which in the best intersts of both countries.

NGOs have long been exposed for what they are.

First you had the missionaries to enslave the minds..now you have NGOs.

 

[Beidou2020]

Imperilism never died, young brother.

It only consutructed an even more vicious mechanism when the colonies where given their 'independence'.

OBOR is being fought and sobotaged by all means possible.

OBOR is a different framework. A framework of independence and co-develpment.

A Community of Prosperity vs. An empire of Chaos.

Just look at Pak...afghan is used by the troublemakers to kill and destroy pak people.

Traitors are used by the same to sabotage the CPEC. Which in the best intersts of both countries.

NGOs have long been exposed for what they are.

First you had the missionaries to enslave the minds..now you have NGOs.

Very true.

Fortunately Russia and China have started to realise the Western NGO tactic.

Another tactic of the West is private military contractors that do the work of militaries without the official uniforms and there is easy deniability.

Another tactic is they find military officials and soldiers disloyal to the government to do coups against the government.

The West will keep trying different tactics, it's the job of the leaders of countries to be alert to these schemes and counter it.

The West has been using NGOs to do colour revolutions for years but only recently did countries like Russia and China take action.

 

[Jlaw]

Putin said recently that these 'defensive' weapons can be turned into offensive weapons very quickly.

The US uses destabilising tactics to destroy bilateral relationships between countries.

The US did it with Japan by getting the Japanese right wingers to 'nationalise' the Diaoyu islands just at the time when China-Japan relations were booming. The US considered good China-Japan relations as a threat to its hegemony and decided to find something to stir up trouble.

Same thing the US is doing with South Korea. China-South Korea relations are booming with a lot of trade. The US wants to destroy this relationship by stirring up trouble.

The US finds weak spots between nations and targets them. The two countries end up with sour relations and the US hegemon ends up as the winner.

The US wants to destroy trade relationships between China and its neighbours by stirring up trouble to benefit the US economy and hurt the Chinese economy.

China has always concentrated on building economic relationships with countries with:
1) trade
2) investment
3) financing
4) infrastructure building
5) aid

China has not been building military relationships with countries like it has done with economics. Not to the same extent anyway.

China must develop the military component of the overall bilateral relationship by having:
1) REGULAR military exercises.
2) REGULAR military meetings between top officials.
3) joint-weapons development.
4) sell Chinese weapons.

I don't think it's a good idea to have joint-weapons development. These should be kept confidential to one's country.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Very true.

Fortunately Russia and China have started to realise the Western NGO tactic.

Another tactic of the West is private military contractors that do the work of militaries without the official uniforms and there is easy deniability.

Another tactic is they find military officials and soldiers disloyal to the government to do coups against the government.

The West will keep trying different tactics, it's the job of the leaders of countries to be alert to these schemes and counter it.

The West has been using NGOs to do colour revolutions for years but only recently did countries like Russia and China take action.

Once in the early 20th century an Italian economist, a fascist I believe, said:

Capture their minds and their hands will follow.

Enslaved minds are easy to manipulate and distracted.

Both in Russia and China we have enslaved minds.

They just want to copy the west.

Why is it so difficult to have your own ideas of development and economic management?

Why only one way?

Indpendent nations choose their own models and framework of thought and identity.

What worries me is that China must never forget what it means to be China.

Nationalistic posters aside... we must forward the original Chinese thinking.

Our own world view and our own solutions.

Conflict must be replaced by ture progress.

 

[Beidou2020]

I don't think it's a good idea to have joint-weapons development. These should be kept confidential to one's country.

Joint weapons development builds links between 2 countries. This is a tactic the US uses well.

 

[terranMarine]

South Korea and Japan are taken hostage by the US, it will do anything to prevent the formation of a very powerful economic East Asian integration. Just as Germany who cannot escape the evil eagle's claws. America has screwed ME, EU and wants to disrupt East Asian development and stirring up trouble in SCS. Eastern and SE part of Asia is lucky that there's a very strong China to stand up to the chaos bringer. Russia will also prevent NATO from sneaking closer to his doorsteps.

 

[Jlaw]

Very true.

Fortunately Russia and China have started to realise the Western NGO tactic.

Another tactic of the West is private military contractors that do the work of militaries without the official uniforms and there is easy deniability.

Another tactic is they find military officials and soldiers disloyal to the government to do coups against the government.

The West will keep trying different tactics, it's the job of the leaders of countries to be alert to these schemes and counter it.

The West has been using NGOs to do colour revolutions for years but only recently did countries like Russia and China take action.

Sad part is, these schemes used by the west were used and probably originated in China before western civilization even existed but yet it takes them so long to realize this. All they had to do is read a history book and they can find past emperors using all of these schemes to achieve hegemony.

Exactly.

China must have experts/think tanks that advise Chinese leaders what future steps to take. Predict different scenarios and have solutions in place for each scenario.

You have to be 2 steps ahead of your opponent. Like chess.

If South Korea wants THAAD, then China should respond by abolishing the No-First-Use nuclear policy and boosting the nuclear arsenal to around 10,000 warheads.

I believe four years ago that if China had indicated that SK will be a target for nuclear strike and started the missile defense, remove NFU, the pressure might be enough to force Koreans into abandoning thaad.

 

[TaiShang]

South Korea and Japan are taken hostage by the US, it will do anything to prevent the formation of a very powerful economic East Asian integration. Just as Germany who cannot escape the evil eagle's claws. America has screwed ME, EU and wants to disrupt East Asian development and stirring up trouble in SCS. Eastern and SE part of Asia is lucky that there's a very strong China to stand up to the chaos bringer. Russia will also prevent NATO from sneaking closer to his doorsteps.

Very precise, sharp points.

China's presence keeps East Asia stable.

Russia's presence keeps Central Asia stable.

Look at Middle East and North Africa where no major power exists.

They have been suffering from the US constructed green belt project that developed into an anti-Communist bloc blocked by a green Islamist bloc.

Taliban, Al Qaeda and now ISIS are the parts and parcels of the same chain.

Now the US duped Europe into the same mess it created single handedly in the Middle East.

In East Asia, it uses a similar strategy with slightly different tactic. This is because of East Asian pragmatism and inherent secularism. Religion does not work here. Hence historical grievances, disputes and distrust are constantly been revived -- just as with Diaoyudai nationalization, which came out of no where and now THAAD deployment.

Diaoyudai problem seems to be shelved. But THAAD deployment is not to be shelved. China is forced to take counter measures.