Bangladeshis demand trial of Gen (retd) Moeen U Ahmed

[SeaGull]

Brother where have you seen Stallions? They are more like a Gurar baccha just like him.





Thank you Bhai-jaan
eastwatch lost me on that one. I don't know what got into him but I am disappointed.

I did see them as stallions in the pics of the ceremony - they were much taller than him too. But then anyone would be much taller than him.
If you find them Gorur Bachha - possibly our Indians friends might have switched them at the last moment.
Never mind 'eastwatch' - he doesn't have to agree to everything that we say.

 

[Al-zakir]

I did see them as stallions in the pics of the ceremony - they were much taller than him too. But then anyone would be much taller than him.
If you find them Gorur Bachha - possibly our Indians friends might have switched them at the last moment.
Never mind 'eastwatch' - he doesn't have to agree to everything that we say.

Well I have seen them in the news when they enter Bd hrough Benapole port. They look very small compare to stallions that we already got in our possession. This Son of Miskin made us look bad all the way.

 

[idune]

Gen Moeen's fun with the law
Hafiz Shamseer

The diminutive and cunning army general, whose atrocious exhibition of disloyalty to the land and the people saw the present rulers pitchforked in to power, has now knocked at the door of law while still running from it.

Slipping out of the Dhaka Cantonment through the backdoor soon after his retirement and whisked into a plane bound for the West, Moeen U Ahmed is now whiling his time away as a diaspora in Florida. He has no apparent plans to return to his own country because his beneficiary, the Awami League, is reluctant to guarantee his security.

A lawyer for this general filed a petition with the Third District Judge's court at Dhaka last Tuesday seeking a decree that the defamation case filed against him by the former state minister for energy Iqbal Hassan Mahmood Tuku be quashed.
Why does he want it quashed? Why doesn't he appear before the court to say whatever he may have got to say? Why does he not fight the case with the proof that he was right? These are the questions the "brave" general is not quite in a mood to answer.
At a tea party in honour of freedom fighters on 27 March, 2007, Moeen, then in complete command of the statecraft, charged that the "corrupt politicians" had siphoned off at least Taka 200 billion from the energy sector alone during the five years of BNP rule. He sent Tuku, his wife and daughter in jail and started corruption cases against them that got to nowhere due to lack of evidence.

Freed on bail after the AL government took over, Tuku filed a damage suit for Taka one billion against Moeen on charges of defaming him in the eyes of the people. He said the total budget for the energy sector during the period was Taka 150 billion. How then was it possible to stash away 50 billion taka more than the amount budgeted? He asked.

He appealed to the court to ask Moeen to reply to the charges. Sensing danger, Moeen secretly left the shore and pitched himself in Florida where he has some kinsmen to look after him. Much deeper cannot be delved on the merit of Moeen's petition because the whole issue is now a sort of sub-judice, or under consideration of law. But one shouldn't be wrong to believe that the former general's latest move is designed to make some fun with the law. He is clearly trying to circumvent the question of his gross misdemeanour by bringing irrelevant and extraneous issues. For example, he says the defamation case against him was filed by anti-liberation forces who do not want to give Sheikh Mujibur Rahman due honour as the father of the nation. How a defamation case can be germane to honouring Sheikh Mujib is a catch-22 that only Moeen and men of his ilk can decipher.

The irony is that Moeen's past role does in no way suggest he was all for the freedom fighting. He was not in the army when the liberation war began and, except for his elder brother, none of his family members are known to have ever joined the freedom fighting.

Moeen joined the army on 11 January 1975. He had been considered as an officer of no special variety; his academic record is by no means brilliant, although he did his NDC and attended courses in the School of Intelligence in USA, and got a fellowship from Harvard University as one of the officers of the Bangladesh army. Four of his Bangladeshi colleagues had much more brilliant academic and military records than him. But when Begum Khaleda Zia became the prime minister, she chose Moeen as the army chief on 15 June 2005 superseding his colleagues with relatively superior background.

That probably was Begum Zia's biggest blunder. She didn't have the foggiest clue that Moeen could be a dark horse of dangerous consequences. Moeen didn't take much time to plot a demolition of BNP. He built up secret rapport with some Awami League stalwarts. Moeen played a surreptitious role in creating anarchy on frivolous grounds. He encouraged the infamous logi-boitha show in Dhaka that killed some people who were not at one with the anarchists. In fact the ground was perfect for the strike. Hence came the notorious 1/11. The rest of the story hasn't yet faded away from public memory. It was not "minus two" that the people were fooled to believe. It was "annihilate BNP".

All the prominent leaders of the party which swept to power three times were sent to jail, most of them with frivolous charges. Some of the leaders were sorted out inside the interrogation cells. Begum Zia's eldest son, Tareq Rahman, was brutally assaulted until his spine broke down. From a healthy young man, he turned into a sick man unable to move. Despite eight months of recuperation in London, he is not physically on his own. The wild allegation that he accumulated hundreds of thousands of dollars through stash and graft has almost evaporated, with no sign of that money. Khaleda's younger son, Arafat Rahman, is half paralysed and is still in a Bangkok hospital. This is the price this family has paid for the offence that they are in politics. This is the price they have paid for believing in Moeen's loyalty.

"Betrayers survive only for a day, but not the whole year. Because much of what he has done starts recoiling on him". That's what Hemmingway had once said. The quotation still stands, especially for Moeen U Ahmed.​

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[M_Saint]

Moeen played a surreptitious role in creating anarchy on frivolous grounds. He encouraged the infamous logi-boitha show in Dhaka that killed some people who were not at one with the anarchists. In fact the ground was perfect for the strike. Hence came the notorious 1/11.

So OCT. 28th, 06's Lathi-Baitha mayhem was also MUA's handy work. That's why he never let the investigation to take its right course on how large some of money came to HASINA, DR AWAL, SK SELIM's A/C right before ordering those Brick-bats in huge numbers. BTW I'm posting the Ytube video again for the viewers to see how Shock & AWE scenario was created by Bharatio dalarer Bacchas on fully unarmed, non-prepared, the finest human beings. May Almighty punish those zalim, who have taken the lives of innocents.

 

[eastwatch]

The complaints against MUA are real. He took the Indian stallions and sold out the country. After his India trip he followed an exclusively Indian agenda and practically rigged the elections for an AL victory. He also betrayed the army during the Pilkhana massacre and has resorted to covering up evidence to save the real masterminds. Just before he left for retirement he submitted list of 100 officers who should be dismissed from service. By all accounts he is a traitor.

Can someone tell me how he could rigg the election without other people noticing it? Are you talking about the new voter list prepared by the army? I have read, some 10 million false names were eliminated from the list prepared during the BNP govt. Was it then a part of vote rigging? But, then nobody protested it before election was held.

Can someone explain by which mechanism Gen. Moeen betrayed the army during Pilkhana? Can somebody post a list of those hundred officers, who General Moeen suggested to sack? Brig. Azmi and some others have been sacked. But, who are the remainders? Will they also be sacked shortly, any news?

I think, Gen. Moeen's contributions and successes during the CTG far outweigh his failures. People should not ask to run after eagle without checking the ears.

 

[idune]

aha we have another Moeen U chamcha emerged and claiming ignorance about subversive activities of Moeen U. Good to know.

 

[eastwatch]

Yes, Gen. moeen was very bad. Being a Muslim general, he did not grab the State power. Instead, he opted for democracy and returned his military back to barracks. Now, some people are so fondly calling him a traitor.

Any election is not the final verdict of a nation's electorates, the next election results may be quite different. Like a civilized country we should keep quiet, let people scrutinize all the faults of the present govt and wait for the next election to come.

 

[SeaGull]

This raises the question of > Is democracy the best form of governance for our country?

 

[Al-zakir]

This raises the question of > Is democracy the best form of governance for our country?

NO becaue there is a famous qote in urdu explain it all.....

"Laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahi mante"

Only danda can fix up of some people mindset. I think bd need basic democracy with semi martial law until people become more responsible.

 

[Comet]

NO becaue there is a famous qote in urdu explain it all.....

"Laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahi mante"

Only danda can fix up of some people mindset. I think bd need basic democracy with semi martial law until people become more responsible.

I hope you are not one of the 'Military Guys'.

 

[SeaGull]

I hope you are not one of the 'Military Guys'.

O' Umairp - Let our friend Al-Zakir be.

Our military is too much of a wimp to go out in the scorching sun - prefer to stay in the shade of the petticoat.

I personally like the Chinese form of governance, sans communism for us.

Now what could that be??

 

[eastwatch]

This raises the question of > Is democracy the best form of governance for our country?

Democracy has many different forms in many different countries of the world. But, there is no substitute for democracy. In England, when democracy was introduced, the electorates were composed of only taxpayers, because they were regarded as the most responsible people in the then society. Gradually, the electorates started to include partisans and common people. But, it is also to be noted that these common people also became educated and became more responsible members of their society by the time they were included.

In case of BD, democratiic form of govt was introduced by the British Raj so that it could hand over State power to these People's representatives when they left. However, the electorates included all the common, uneducated and non-tax paying people.

Since, nearly eighty years have passed after it was introduced, now we cannot just backtrack and disallow the uneducated eletorates from participating. The best way is to educate the mass, and make them and the politicians equally responsible. The other thing is to strengthen the democratic institutions.

 

[eastwatch]

I do not think, there is one common person who dislikes Gen MUA, because he, during the caretaker govt, did his best to improve the discipline, punished the hooligans and broke many greedy politicians. The last group of both BNP and AL unduly criticize this person, because many of them were exposed of their wrongdoings while in the govt. Abdul Jalil is still bitter, Suranjit Sen, M. Khan Alamgir and many AL politicians are bitter with MUA. Even then, only yesterday the PM asked the opposition leader to rethink why 1/11 was imposed and asked her to join the Parliament so as the same is not repeated.

BNP is bitter because without 1/11, they could have won an election. How? The voter list compiled by them had 10 million false voters. CTG compiled a voter list that had 70 million voters instead of 80 million. MUA did a superb job by eliminating these false voters, but this has brought enemity from the die-hard Jamaat supporters. People think this Party has the organizational discipline to cast these false votes.

But, this false voter list was the main reason that the AL started street agitation and emergency was declared on 1/11. The country was saved, new voter list was compiled and AL came to power. But, it is very interesting to note that even though AL was elected, its leaders cannot just forgive MUA for showing the audacity of arresting them and taking away their properties and freezing their Bank accounts. It is same with BNP leaders also.

But, Jamat has good quality leaders, and they were not arrested. Jamaat's Motiur Rahman Nizami only received his salary as a cabinet minister. He never received any bribes. His wife is a school teacher. Both of them are honest.

Now, cronies from both AL and BNP want the head of MUA. A time will come when the historians will write about the good sides of 1/11 and MUA. One good thing the army supported CTG did was to demolish thousands of buildings in Dhaka that have encroached partially upon the govt Khash land or road! Some were 20-storied buildings. These people will never again build permanent structures on govt khash land.

MUA is mainly responsible for today's self-sufficiency in foods. He had another pet project. It was to check the possibility of getting oil from palm trees. He used to say that only two such trees are enough to provide more than 60 kgs of edible oil, which is enough to fulfill one year's demand of a family. Hope, the palm oil project will be a success in the future. Note that BD imports more than $500 million worth of edible oil.

 

[Stumper]

I do not think, there is one common person who dislikes Gen MUA, because he, during the caretaker govt, did his best to improve the discipline, punished the hooligans and broke many greedy politicians. The last group of both BNP and AL unduly criticize this person, because many of them were exposed of their wrongdoings while in the govt. Abdul Jalil is still bitter, Suranjit Sen, M. Khan Alamgir and many AL politicians are bitter with MUA. Even then, only yesterday the PM asked the opposition leader to rethink why 1/11 was imposed and asked her to join the Parliament so as the same is not repeated.

BNP is bitter because without 1/11, they could have won an election. How? The voter list compiled by them had 10 million false voters. CTG compiled a voter list that had 70 million voters instead of 80 million. MUA did a superb job by eliminating these false voters, but this has brought enemity from the die-hard Jamaat supporters. People think this Party has the organizational discipline to cast these false votes.

But, this false voter list was the main reason that the AL started street agitation and emergency was declared on 1/11. The country was saved, new voter list was compiled and AL came to power. But, it is very interesting to note that even though AL was elected, its leaders cannot just forgive MUA for showing the audacity of arresting them and taking away their properties and freezing their Bank accounts. It is same with BNP leaders also.

But, Jamat has good quality leaders, and they were not arrested. Jamaat's Motiur Rahman Nizami only received his salary as a cabinet minister. He never received any bribes. His wife is a school teacher. Both of them are honest.

Now, cronies from both AL and BNP want the head of MUA. A time will come when the historians will write about the good sides of 1/11 and MUA. One good thing the army supported CTG did was to demolish thousands of buildings in Dhaka that have encroached partially upon the govt Khash land or road! Some were 20-storied buildings. These people will never again build permanent structures on govt khash land.

MUA is mainly responsible for today's self-sufficiency in foods. He had another pet project. It was to check the possibility of getting oil from palm trees. He used to say that only two such trees are enough to provide more than 60 kgs of edible oil, which is enough to fulfill one year's demand of a family. Hope, the palm oil project will be a success in the future. Note that BD imports more than $500 million worth of edible oil.

Hats off to this guy.. he had the chance to rule like Mush, yet restored democracy back. I really hope, what you said is correct about common man respecting MUA. Where is he now?

 

[khabib]

Hats off to this guy.. he had the chance to rule like Mush, yet restored democracy back. I really hope, what you said is correct about common man respecting MUA. Where is he now?

Not so sure about it at least good amount of Bangladeshi. To go to that high, you need to be more like a politicaian than a true army man. He is the kind of person who will do what ever it take to serve his own interest and we saw that in the BDR revolt. Just to get his one more year of extension, he did broke the army act of 1953 and let all the 57 officers die.